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boog204 said:
I can fault Cashman for lots of things, but I've always liked the way he does the bullpen. You can find bullpen arms out there relatively cheaply. He'll replace those non-tendered guys with a collection of good arms, and it'll be rinse and repeat. The days of having a Mendoza, Stanton, Nelson, Rivera anchored type of bullpen are long gone.


I thought it was a good baseball move to give the QO, as I didn't expect Grish to accept it. And now he has. And I'm relatively certain Trent will revert to being a 200 hitter with 14 meaningless HRs for 22 million/year. Gross.
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I have the exact same feeling w/ Cashman re: Bullpen. The staff does a nice job finding diamonds in the rough.

Honestly, I don't hate the QO for Grisham. It's just a one-year commitment.

He's a no-brainer start against RHP (.869 OPS) and I like his defense even though his metrics are starting to go the other way and Judge can play CF the days Grisham sits for LHP. Yanks just need to add an OF who can hit well against LHP (looking at you, Cody Bellinger!)
 
boog204 said:
Tons of talent, but literally never healthy. The only time he's ever been healthy was five seasons ago.



I can fault Cashman for lots of things, but I've always liked the way he does the bullpen. You can find bullpen arms out there relatively cheaply. He'll replace those non-tendered guys with a collection of good arms, and it'll be rinse and repeat. The days of having a Mendoza, Stanton, Nelson, Rivera anchored type of bullpen are long gone.


I thought it was a good baseball move to give the QO, as I didn't expect Grish to accept it. And now he has. And I'm relatively certain Trent will revert to being a 200 hitter with 14 meaningless HRs for 22 million/year. Gross.
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I was hoping Grish wouldn’t re-sign because I think last year was a mirage, but $22mil is a lotta lettuce to turn down. They say it doesn’t make a difference in our pursuit of other free agents but I can’t imagine that’s true. It complicates things in the OF especially if we’re truly trying to get Belli back. I’d like to see what Spencer Jones can do in the big leagues soon. I know he strikes out a ton so he’ll fit right into our lineup in that sense, but by all accounts, he also rakes. The Martian is nowhere near as good as advertised and plays OF like I did in slow pitch softball (badly…although I also hit bombs) so I’m ready to use him as trade bait.
 
If George was alive (rest his soul) he's sign Tucker for LF, Bellinger for CF!
He'd trade for Donovan from the Cardinals for SS!
He'd sign Bregman for 3B!
And Reamuto for C with Rice on 1st!
And he'd get at least 2 starting pitchers and 1 bullpen guy!
But Hal wants to get richer not win the World Series!
The Yankees are the richest team in MLB, 3.1 Billion $ and he cries poverty! The hell with the tax penalty, win the WS while Judge and Cole are still alive!
In 2009 they spent a lot but won the WS!
 
StllH8L8ner said:
I was hoping Grish wouldn’t re-sign because I think last year was a mirage, but $22mil is a lotta lettuce to turn down. They say it doesn’t make a difference in our pursuit of other free agents but I can’t imagine that’s true. It complicates things in the OF especially if we’re truly trying to get Belli back. I’d like to see what Spencer Jones can do in the big leagues soon. I know he strikes out a ton so he’ll fit right into our lineup in that sense, but by all accounts, he also rakes. The Martian is nowhere near as good as advertised and plays OF like I did in slow pitch softball (badly…although I also hit bombs) so I’m ready to use him as trade bait.
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I didn't want Grisham because I was hoping that somehow Jasson or Jones would be able to become legit young stars. I feel like the Yankees have generally given their young players about 12 minutes to prove whether or not they can play (unless you're Volpe, who will probably be our starting SS, hitting 210, until he's 40). With Grisham back, it just makes the leash even shorter for any young OF because I believe we will bring back Belli, and our OF will be set. They're going to play Grisham. But I think last season, which is a bit overrated to begin with, is an extreme outlier.

At the same time, we have absolutely wasted the prime of one of our all-time greats, and we are in win-now mode. So if we can flip Jones and/or Jasson for something that will put us there, then so be it. The future is not particularly bright, and our young talent is a bit iffy moving forward. I'm not a ridiculous Rice believer. ERC has some potential, but still has to survive our terrible pitching development system, and who the hell knows if Lombard will be able to hit.
 
Devin Williams: For a bunch of people that didn’t want me back on your team, [y’all] sure are mad in the [DMs]
Boba: Bye!
Mets fans: Please don't bring Williams in, he'll blow the lead...
 
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boba said:
Devin Williams: For a bunch of people that didn’t want me back on your team, [y’all] sure are mad in the [DMs]
Boba: Bye!
Mets fans: Please don't bring Williams in, he'll blow the lead...
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As a Mets fan I don’t mind the move. Insurance if Diaz doesn’t come back. Not a huge money impact. Solid setup if Diaz does come back. And aside from all of that, he can’t be worse than Helsley.
 
Deepster said:
As a Mets fan I don’t mind the move. Insurance if Diaz doesn’t come back. Not a huge money impact. Solid setup if Diaz does come back. And aside from all of that, he can’t be worse than Helsley.
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it’s a great move he found his way after a rough start and is solid at worst. Cashman is a moron!
 
I'm ambivalent about it. Devin Williams wasn't anything close to what we wanted when we acquired him, but I think the Mets got him for a market-value deal. Definitely not a "Cashman is a moron" type move, to me.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
I'm ambivalent about it. Devin Williams wasn't anything close to what we wanted when we acquired him, but I think the Mets got him for a market-value deal. Definitely not a "Cashman is a moron" type move, to me.
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Most of his moves and non moves are now moronic sorry he’s not very good at his job. Williams showed signs of getting back to where we expected, could have used him no matter. I mean he resigns guys who bat .210 every year why not give baseballs best closer a year ago another shot?
 
Hey Adrien! said:
I'm ambivalent about it. Devin Williams wasn't anything close to what we wanted when we acquired him, but I think the Mets got him for a market-value deal. Definitely not a "Cashman is a moron" type move, to me.
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I was glad they let Williams walk. Dude threw gas on more fires than he put out. He’s not cut out for the bright lights of the Bronx.
 
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Checking a few sources, Imai ranks as a top-5 SP UFA this offseason and his pitching style, low ERA and decent K rates are akin to Senga/Kikuchi/Kuroda before they started at the MLB level.

Mid-to-upper 90s fastball with a slider, splitter and change.
 
Weaver has followed Devin Williams across town to sign with the Mets. Guy was amazing a couple of seasons ago when he helped the team to the World Series. I think Boone overworked him down the stretch, but they don't make the Series without him. I wish him luck.
 
crickets GIF
 
billythekid said:
Weaver has followed Devin Williams across town to sign with the Mets. Guy was amazing a couple of seasons ago when he helped the team to the World Series. I think Boone overworked him down the stretch, but they don't make the Series without him. I wish him luck.
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Yeah he was lights out two years ago but couldn’t find it consistently last year and that’s a lot of cheddar for someone who may or may not bounce back. Guess Bedner is the full time closer for now?
 
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Paul DeJong lol typical Cashman signing, another .229 hitter who doesn’t walk. Fire this piece of crap please.
 
mauconnfan said:
Paul DeJong lol typical Cashman signing, another .229 hitter who doesn’t walk. Fire this piece of crap please.
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Don't love it... But depth, depth, depth. As of right now, we're running out a Volpe, Rosario, Caballero, McMahon, Cabrera left side of the infield. They are all mediocre and injury-prone. What's one more? Dejong was an all-star at one point? (No memory of this) We also have very little young depth to slot in if/when injuries occur. I can't take any more Andrew Velazquez call-ups.
 
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boog204 said:
Don't love it... But depth, depth, depth. As of right now, we're running out a Volpe, Rosario, Caballero, McMahon, Cabrera left side of the infield. They are all mediocre and injury-prone. What's one more? Dejong was an all-star at one point? (No memory of this) We also have very little young depth to slot in if/when injuries occur. I can't take any more Andrew Velazquez call-ups.
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I mean look at those names, players. Caballero is like the Mickey Mantle of the group at .232, that’s awful. That’s just a horrid left side of the infield that he’s put together in over a year, knowing how important it was to get a 3rd baseman. Now knowing Volpe’s a stiff the Yanks have zero value on their left side. DeJong is a typical worthless addition by our GM, baseballs worse.
 
mauconnfan said:
I mean look at those names, players. Caballero is like the Mickey Mantle of the group at .232, that’s awful. That’s just a horrid left side of the infield that he’s put together in over a year, knowing how important it was to get a 3rd baseman. Now knowing Volpe’s a stiff the Yanks have zero value on their left side. DeJong is a typical worthless addition by our GM, baseballs worse.
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Oh, it is beyond hideous... We will have an excellent rotation, and the bullpen will be fine. You throw crap at the wall and see what sticks, and I have no issue with how Cashman builds the 'pen. But the mere fact that we are going to consistently be running out .220 hitters at C, 3B, SS, and probably CF when Grisham reverts to the norm is absolutely laughable. Add on that your 2B is a 240 hitter and a 36 y/o Stanton? Gross.

My only optimism/hope point is that we also brought in a broken Matt Carpenter coming off back-to-back sub .200 years, and he became Kelly Leak, so you never know with a guy like Dejong.

They have just been built very poorly, and the prospects they thought they had have just not improved much at all (Martian, Volpe, Wells). If any of those three actually progress to become above-average players, it can balance the lineup out more. As it is, relying on Rice (who I'm not even remotely sold on), Jazz (who I think is a bad pitching stat padder), and Grisham (no way he repeats 25) is beyond problematic. The Yanks will win their 93 games, make the playoffs, and go cold against good pitching. Rinse and repeat.

The simple fact that we are begging for Bellinger, who offensively is a worse Nick Swisher by the numbers, just shows how desperate we are for a "professional" hitter in the lineup. At the same time, giving him 6/180 is absolutely asinine, and I don't blame the FO one bit for slow-playing this.
 
After hearing the Yankees offer of 30 million a year, getting shut down from Boras, and then his camp now looking for seven years, I’m ready to move on from Bellinger and allocate that money to Bichette.

I like Cody, but at that money in terms, I’d rather get a younger infielder who hits for average. Maybe Bichette isn't a future shortstop, but he could play whichever infield position Jazz doesn’t play this year and then it opens the door for not necessarily needing Jazz once his arbitration years end.
 
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Hey Adrien! said:
After hearing the Yankees offer of 30 million a year, getting shut down from Boras, and then his camp now looking for seven years, I’m ready to move on from Bellinger and allocate that money to Bichette.

I like Cody, but at that money in terms, I’d rather get a younger infielder who hits for average. Maybe Bichette is in a future shortstop, but he could play whichever infield position Jazz doesn’t play this year and then it opens the door for not necessarily needing jazz once his arbitration years end.
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yeah…7 years is crazy.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
After hearing the Yankees offer of 30 million a year, getting shut down from Boras, and then his camp now looking for seven years, I’m ready to move on from Bellinger and allocate that money to Bichette.

I like Cody, but at that money in terms, I’d rather get a younger infielder who hits for average. Maybe Bichette is in a future shortstop, but he could play whichever infield position Jazz doesn’t play this year and then it opens the door for not necessarily needing jazz once his arbitration years end.
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It's just funny to me because most Yankee fans have been crying that the Yankees are cheap and hapless and asleep at the wheel and everything else, and then we find out we offered an overpay deal, and Boras/Bellinger are asking for 37/yr? For what is like the 30th best OF (by stats) in baseball? It's insane. I'd personally prefer to just let Jones/Dominguez win the spot and roll with it.

I like Bichette as an offensive player, but he's hideous defensively. I believe he ranked dead last among shortstops last year. Is the idea for him to take Volpe's spot? Because that makes our already weak "up in the middle" D that much worse.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
yeah…7 years is crazy.
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I do like Bellinger. But it's not like he's a top tier player anymore and hasn't been in 5-6 years. He's a good player. He's not an all-star. He's good. 270 29 98 equals 7 years at 37 million per? That's insane. And, he's going to decline fairly soon.
 
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