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The Official 2025 New York Giants Thread

navery12 said:
Giants continue to be the only team in the NFL that doesn't understand the value of tanking
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Washington went 2-2 to end the season including a win over your Giants. they could have had a top 4 pick. Without a 2nd or 4th rounders, they have to create capital with the #7 pick. Luckily they have the 6th most money under the cap (expected to be somewhere between $295M and $305M) with nearly $90M and very little dead space, but only 47 players signed.

First things first for the Giants is their coach. I know it's early, but what is the general consensus about who to bring in? Most of the names I've seen so far are retreads (Stefanski, McCarthy, Pierce, Nagy), but I'm sure I haven't seen a comprehensive list.
 
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Schoen posts his criteria in his head coach search. Absent is a proven record of being a 'winner'. Truely, if Cleveland doesn't want you, you are still an attractive hire for the NYG? Based on the criteria, if you can talk a good game your chances are good.
 
Husky25 said:
Washington went 2-2 to end the season including a win over your Giants. they could have had a top 4 pick. Without a 2nd or 4th rounders, they have to create capital with the #7 pick. Luckily they have the 6th most money under the cap (expected to be somewhere between $295M and $305M) with nearly $90M and very little dead space, but only 47 players signed.

First things first for the Giants is their coach. I know it's early, but what is the general consensus about who to bring in? Most of the names I've seen so far are retreads (Stefanski, McCarthy, Pierce, Nagy), but I'm sure I haven't seen a comprehensive list.
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Consensus is they'll go after a proven coach, I think if Stefanski wants to come that's a no brainer choice and you get it done. McCarthy is also probably a good choice, a bit like Thibs with the Knicks. The knock on him is 12 wins and an early exit which is miles better than anything the Giants have had for 15 years.

My personal list would be Stefanski, Chris Shula (with Kingsbury as the OC), then McCarthy. Honorable mentions for Kubiak and Hafley
 
navery12 said:
Consensus is they'll go after a proven coach, I think if Stefanski wants to come that's a no brainer choice and you get it done. McCarthy is also probably a good choice, a bit like Thibs with the Knicks. The knock on him is 12 wins and an early exit which is miles better than anything the Giants have had for 15 years.

My personal list would be Stefanski, Chris Shula (with Kingsbury as the OC), then McCarthy. Honorable mentions for Kubiak and Hafley
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Kingsbury is now available. I really hope he (or Antonio Pierce for that matter) end up in E. Rutherford.
 
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navery12 said:
Forget everything I said. Give me John Harbaugh
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He would be my first choice.

My one complaint about McCarthy is that the Cowboys continued making the same stupid mistakes in critical spots.
 
navery12 said:
Forget everything I said. Give me John Harbaugh
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Feels like the Giants just got a gift from Baltimore. I think Florres may be the target for the Ravens.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Feels like the Giants just got a gift from Baltimore. I think Florres may be the target for the Ravens.
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I'll be the biggest Bills and Eagles fan in America this weekend, otherwise I suspect the Giants will no longer be the spot for Harbaugh
 
navery12 said:
I know the drop from 1 to 5 doesn't seem like the end of the world when you don't need a QB, but this is why the Giants desperately needed that trade down. They have a long wait after their round 2 pick

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Even at Pick 5, I'm still in camp "trade the pick if you can" even though it doesn't look like there will be a third QB that team's are going to move that high for that spot.

Even a move from 5 to 7 can net the Giants a third rounder.
 
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navery12 said:
I'll be the biggest Bills and Eagles fan in America this weekend, otherwise I suspect the Giants will no longer be the spot for Harbaugh
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Eagles? I get the possibility McDermott could be gone, McDaniels isn't safe either. But who's getting fired from Philly or the Niners? If the Eagles are that dumb, then just grab Sirianni, he may well be an upgrade on Harbaugh.
 
One of the best days we've had since the second Super Bowl vs. the Pats. Per Connor Hughes, the Giants have told Harbaugh he has a blank checkbook to get the staff he wants.

Now I wonder if having a guy like Harbaugh makes us tilt toward S Caleb Downs out of Ohio State and hope he turns into our version of Hamilton with Baltimore. Or do they go with the top WR to go with Nabors and make a ridiculous 1-2 punch for Dart to utilize.

The future if finally very bright again.
 
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Getting Harbaugh is amazing, Giants immediately become a lot more attractive to free agents now which is big. Hopefully Tyler Linderbaum and Isaiah Likely really loved playing for Harbaugh.

Todd Monken is also going to be an unbelievable OC for Dart
 
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navery12 said:
Getting Harbaugh is amazing, Giants immediately become a lot more attractive to free agents now which is big. Hopefully Tyler Linderbaum and Isaiah Likely really loved playing for Harbaugh.

Todd Monken is also going to be an unbelievable OC for Dart
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I'm feeling Tom Coughlin vibes, as in very stoked that an experienced, capable coach with a very good track record is coming in. Also love the fit personnel-wise as Dart = Jackson 2.0 (I obviously can't expect Dart to be that good, but here's to hoping!)
 
So let me just say, he is clearly the far and away best HC option out there and I’d have taken him in the blink of an eye.

That said, just for conversation, how many Super Bowl winning head coaches have won at the stop after their SB win? These guys failed.

Mike Shanahan
Jon Gruden
Bill Parcells
Mike Holmgren
Dick Vermeil
Tom Coughlin

The only coach to win a ring with the team after he won his first ring is Don Shula.
 
Deepster said:
So let me just say, he is clearly the far and away best HC option out there and I’d have taken him in the blink of an eye.

That said, just for conversation, how many Super Bowl winning head coaches have won at the stop after their SB win? These guys failed.

Mike Shanahan
Jon Gruden
Bill Parcells
Mike Holmgren
Dick Vermeil
Tom Coughlin

The only coach to win a ring with the team after he won his first ring is Don Shula.
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Where did Shula win his first ring? Or are you fishing for some Jet praise (Super Bowl III)?

What the Giants have needed most for basically the past decade is having an adult in charge. Harbaugh accomplishes this.

We may not be able to solve all personnel weaknesses this offseason, but a good draft and the right second tier free agent signings could put us one good draft away from making a decent run in the playoffs.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Where did Shula win his first ring? Or are you fishing for some Jet praise (Super Bowl III)?

What the Giants have needed most for basically the past decade is having an adult in charge. Harbaugh accomplishes this.

We may not be able to solve all personnel weaknesses this offseason, but a good draft and the right second tier free agent signings could put us one good draft away from making a decent run in the playoffs.
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Shula won an “NFL Championship” with the Colts in 68. That’s the closest time a coach has done it.
 
Deepster said:
So let me just say, he is clearly the far and away best HC option out there and I’d have taken him in the blink of an eye.

That said, just for conversation, how many Super Bowl winning head coaches have won at the stop after their SB win? These guys failed.

Mike Shanahan
Jon Gruden
Bill Parcells
Mike Holmgren
Dick Vermeil
Tom Coughlin

The only coach to win a ring with the team after he won his first ring is Don Shula.
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Only 14 coaches have won more than one. Including championships (Lombardi). Both Reid and Belichick won theirs at a stop that wasn't their first. Siefert and Belichick both won as coordinators. Reid won as an assistant and went to the Super Bowl in Philly (won 4 division titles).

Point is, I wouldn't worry about it. Somebody will do it eventually. Great hire for the Giants. I think he'll do much better with Dart than Lamar. While Lamar can do amazing things, his style doesn't really lend itself to playoff success.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Only 14 coaches have won more than one. Including championships (Lombardi). Both Reid and Belichick won theirs at a stop that wasn't their first. Siefert and Belichick both won as coordinators. Reid won as an assistant and went to the Super Bowl in Philly (won 4 division titles).

Point is, I wouldn't worry about it. Somebody will do it eventually. Great hire for the Giants. I think he'll do much better with Dart than Lamar. While Lamar can do amazing things, his style doesn't really lend itself to playoff success.
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Clearly, I would not worry about it and you're right. Someone will do it.

I guess my point is, you need a confluence of a lot of things (including some luck) to win even one. Injuries, a good/bad bounce, a FG in a driving snowstorm, a big seed to lose before you play them, etc. All you can ask of Harbaugh is to create a winning culture and put yourself in the best position to succeed year after year, which he's more than proven he can do.
 
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