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The Official 2024 New England Patriots Thread

HeGotGame said:
Well those bets looking better and better each day
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Because they traded Judon? He was my favorite player on the team, but he was expendable because White is an absolute stud at DE. The big loss is Barmore to blood clots, he was the best player on the team.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Because they traded Judon? He was my favorite player on the team, but he was expendable because White is an absolute stud at DE. The big loss is Barmore to blood clots, he was the best player on the team.
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Never change. It's amazing and hilarious these posts.

1 career sack and 64 PFF grade. Absolute stud!
 
HeGotGame said:
Never change. It's amazing and hilarious these posts.

1 career sack and 64 PFF grade. Absolute stud!
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He was a rookie with an injury in college so didn’t really play.
 
Solid performance. As predicted Keion White is a star. Mondre was underrated. Jacoby didn’t do much, just leaned on the run game and D, with some heady scrambles.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Solid performance. As predicted Keion White is a star. Mondre was underrated. Jacoby didn’t do much, just leaned on the run game and D, with some heady scrambles.
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I watched the game and you had to like what you saw. They kept Burrow off the field and ate the clock up all day. Stevenson ran hard and Brissett did exactly what you got him there to do. I think you can keep Brissett in there and plug Maye in at some point later in the season when you want to see what he's got without pressure. And the team seems to have bought into Mayo, which is a good thing.

On the flip side? Burrow looks terribly average after a gangbusters first couple years. I'm not sure I sink a ton into Chase with the thought that combo is your future SB contender for the next 4-5 years.
 
Deepster said:
I watched the game and you had to like what you saw. They kept Burrow off the field and ate the clock up all day. Stevenson ran hard and Brissett did exactly what you got him there to do. I think you can keep Brissett in there and plug Maye in at some point later in the season when you want to see what he's got without pressure. And the team seems to have bought into Mayo, which is a good thing.

On the flip side? Burrow looks terribly average after a gangbusters first couple years. I'm not sure I sink a ton into Chase with the thought that combo is your future SB contender for the next 4-5 years.
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One thing I generally think is true in the NFL is that most bad teams aren't as bad as people think and most good teams aren't as good. Cleveland was supposed to be a strong playoff candidate and they looked terrible. Cinci will look good at some point.

Also, people over-value offense and under-value defense and ST. Carolina sucks because they keep focusing on offense. New Orleans offense isn't great and they lit them up. The Jets and 49ers should be a great game tonight because both are built on defense.
 
HuskyHawk said:
One thing I generally think is true in the NFL is that most bad teams aren't as bad as people think and most good teams aren't as good. Cleveland was supposed to be a strong playoff candidate and they looked terrible. Cinci will look good at some point.

Also, people over-value offense and under-value defense and ST. Carolina sucks because they keep focusing on offense. New Orleans offense isn't great and they lit them up. The Jets and 49ers should be a great game tonight because both are built on defense.
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I just hope Rodgers makes it to the 5th play. Kidding/Not Kidding.
 
Deepster said:
I just hope Rodgers makes it to the 5th play. Kidding/Not Kidding.
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I don't like the Jets, but if he's healthy and 90% of what he was, they should have the best team in the East. If he goes down, at least Taylor is somewhat capable, but I can't see them going far. I suppose that's true of most teams.
 
This has to be good karma. I'm excited. I'll be at the game, I expect it will be a close one.

 
Was at the game yesterday. Got a sunburn. The Pats side club seats were half empty as others tried to avoid the same. One huge mistake on defense cost them the game. A bogus PI call in OT didn't help either. But the passing game is just awful.

I feel for Brisset, live with a clear elevated view you can see that he's doing an incredible job of moving in and around the pocket, but he has no time to throw. The OL just can't pass block. On one play where he moved outside and threw incomplete to the right, Pop Douglas was wide open in the end zone on the left side. My sense is that he plays against the Jets, and Drake is in for San Francisco.
 
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Ugly stuff Pats fans. We saw flashes of a passing offense for the fist time, but then what had been a brilliant rushing attack was shut down. I suppose minus two OL starters in what was already a bad unit, and against a top Jets D, that should be expected. I didn't expect the run defense that had dominated to fall apart. Some really poor tackling in the first half. They missed Bentley for sure. Rogers was brilliant. I think he's finally comfortable again.
 
I don’t think the Pats have a bad team. I think they play well together and do what Mayo wants them to do. They just have a severe lack of overall talent all over the place and need to be smart reloading the next couple years. I don’t think you’ll have much better than this for this year and maybe a good part of next.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Ugly stuff Pats fans. We saw flashes of a passing offense for the fist time, but then what had been a brilliant rushing attack was shut down. I suppose minus two OL starters in what was already a bad unit, and against a top Jets D, that should be expected. I didn't expect the run defense that had dominated to fall apart. Some really poor tackling in the first half. They missed Bentley for sure. Rogers was brilliant. I think he's finally comfortable again.
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Would you play Maye now? I still have PTSD from Darnold and Wilson….I would let him watch and learn.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
Would you play Maye now? I still have PTSD from Darnold and Wilson….I would let him watch and learn.
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No, but soon. Need Lowe back at LT. Can't believe I typed it, but it's true. Might need Mike back at RG, Wallace at RT and Robinson at LG. Jacoby causes some of the issues with his processing speed (lack thereof). Might see Maye by week 5.

The skill position guys aren't the problem. The WR, RB and TE group is solid. The OL and QB play is the issue. Defensively, short week after OT against a Jets team at home with Rogers was a tough environment. They didn't adapt to Bentley being out, missed a lot of tackles (were the best tackling team in the NFL in weeks 1-2) and Rogers broke contain too often.
 
Deepster said:
I don’t think the Pats have a bad team. I think they play well together and do what Mayo wants them to do. They just have a severe lack of overall talent all over the place and need to be smart reloading the next couple years. I don’t think you’ll have much better than this for this year and maybe a good part of next.
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Better than this? This is the floor. They were much better than this the last two weeks and will be better than this next week. The talent gap is almost entirely in the OL and QB positions. Losing Barmore and now Bentley hurts the defensive talent.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Better than this? This is the floor. They were much better than this the last two weeks and will be better than this next week. The talent gap is almost entirely in the OL and QB positions. Losing Barmore and now Bentley hurts the defensive talent.
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Nah. You’re looking at 5-6 wins this year and next tops with what you have on offense. The RB and WR corps are not good right now.
 
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Deepster said:
Nah. You’re looking at 5-6 wins this year and next tops with what you have on offense. The RB and WR corps are not good right now.
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So the guy who was the top RB in the league in weeks 1-2 isn’t good. Right. Polk leads all the rookie WRs in separation metrics. The problem is QB and OL. Yes, probably 5-6 wins against the toughest schedule in the league. Maybe 7. Next year though? Winning the division.
 
HuskyHawk said:
So the guy who was the top RB in the league in weeks 1-2 isn’t good. Right. Polk leads all the rookie WRs in separation metrics. The problem is QB and OL. Yes, probably 5-6 wins against the toughest schedule in the league. Maybe 7. Next year though? Winning the division.
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Oh. I didn’t realize the guy with 5 catches in 3 games led the league in separation metrics. LOL. Is this post for real?
 
Deepster said:
Oh. I didn’t realize the guy with 5 catches in 3 games led the league in separation metrics. LOL. Is this post for real?
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Somebody has to throw the ball to him. He's not the problem.

 
HuskyHawk said:
Somebody has to throw the ball to him. He's not the problem.

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Hey, if you want to spin it, spin away. This is one of the worst offenses in football through 3 weeks and Brissett hasn't made a single mistake yet.
 
Deepster said:
Hey, if you want to spin it, spin away. This is one of the worst offenses in football through 3 weeks and Brissett hasn't made a single mistake yet.
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Brissett has made loads of mistakes. Just no turnovers. He's holding the ball too long, has tunnel vision and isn't getting through reads fast enough. He's a big part of the problem and Maye will be playing in a couple of weeks. In week one, Osbourne was the least open WR and got most of the targets.

The issues aren't the RBs and WRs, or TEs. It's almost all OL and QB, plus some play-calling/game plan issue.
 
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There aren't many positives, but there's this
  • Gonzalez is phenomenal
  • Lowe was actually decent at LT (Center was a catastrophe)
  • Running game was great. Didn't run enough.
  • Rumors are that Maye could start soon
  • Mapu filled in for the two injured starters at S, despite coming off injury, and played well
That's not much. Just a horrific game. Terrible coaching. Terrible QB play. Bad clock management (again). Penalties were awful, but I also think that crew was lousy for both teams, calling too many marginal penalties.
 
Deepster said:
Wow. They are gonna ruin this kid.
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yeah….us Jets fans know how a QB gets ruined. If they keep this up Maye will be a star somewhere else in 5 years (see Geno Smith and Sam Darnold)
 
The 2 Ints were not ideal, but I don't think he played too bad.

Line play has to improve, but I see promise. Houston is a tough out right out of the gate.

Maye's stat line was decent for his first extended play.
 
Deepster said:
Wow. They are gonna ruin this kid.
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ShakyTheMohel said:
yeah….us Jets fans know how a QB gets ruined. If they keep this up Maye will be a star somewhere else in 5 years (see Geno Smith and Sam Darnold)
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He’s going to be a star in New England by next season. He played well behind a makeshift line. Pressure rate was just above 30%, lowest for Houston all year (they lead the NFL). Kid made good, quick reads and got the ball out. One bad throw for Int. Some real gems too.

Schedule softens up considerably from here, so I’m looking forward to seeing what they can do against lesser competition. Obviously should have played Maye vs Miami.
 
Well that was very disappointing. The defense has collapsed without Bentley. The DL isn‘t holding up against the run and the LBs miss tackles. Maye played very well again, but Polk dropping balls is a problem. Douglas was good, tried to play through illness. Henry is solid. Team needs to focus on OL, DL and LB. Have to win at the line of scrimmage.
 
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