The Official 2024 New England Patriots Thread

[HuskyHawk]

Belichick sounded "luke warm" on Maye.....

He sounded luke warm on every QB in the draft. He doesn't think rookie QBs are ready. Pointed out huge issues with Caleb Williams too. We know about Maye's issues. The footwork is terrible, as it is with most "air raid" QBs. JT O'Sullivan has a good video going over every QB and points out that air raid coaches don't teach 3 step 5 step drops and throws on time. So he's not been coached to do it (McCarthy is the only guy among the top guys who's good at that right now).

Allen had even worse issues coming in. So did Herbert. Mahomes also had issues in college. College offense is just nothing like NFL offense and it's a tough transition. Some guys make it, some don't.

 

[HuskyHawk]

This is fantastic news.

 

[HeGotGame]

Is @HuskyHawk ok? We are into August, a preseason game down, and nothing from him on how great the Pats are gonna be this year?

 

[HuskyHawk]

Is @HuskyHawk ok? We are into August, a preseason game down, and nothing from him on how great the Pats are gonna be this year?

They look very good on D. Barmore blood clots are a concern. The new rookie receivers look pretty good and Pop looks great. LT is a real concern. Guard play has been good, Sow settling in at LG. I'll stick with my prediction of around 6-8 wins.

The preseason game vs Philly should tell us more. Hard to get much from the Panthers game. Neither team played starters much.

 

[HeGotGame]

They look very good on D. Barmore blood clots are a concern. The new rookie receivers look pretty good and Pop looks great. LT is a real concern. Guard play has been good, Sow settling in at LG. I'll stick with my prediction of around 6-8 wins.

The preseason game vs Philly should tell us more. Hard to get much from the Panthers game. Neither team played starters much.

You should go to FanDuel and take them over 7.5 wins at +630.

I took them under 4.5 wins and to have the worst record in the NFL at +400

 

[Deepster]

No comments from @HuskyHawk on Milton outplaying Maye so far? About Milton being the new TB????

I love this. I am 57, I grew up in CT and didn't have a single friend who was a Pats fan in grade school. Enter the Brady era and now Pats Nation feels like it's a walk in the park finding a generational QB. New coach, tough division, unknowns at QB, below average talent at offensive skill positions.

Best of luck to you this season.

 

[HuskyHawk]

No comments from @HuskyHawk on Milton outplaying Maye so far? About Milton being the new TB????

I love this. I am 57, I grew up in CT and didn't have a single friend who was a Pats fan in grade school. Enter the Brady era and now Pats Nation feels like it's a walk in the park finding a generational QB. New coach, tough division, unknowns at QB, below average talent at offensive skill positions.

Best of luck to you this season.

He’s hasn’t. One moronic, truly stupid local media guy said that. It’s very far from reality.

Any comments on trading fir guys who won’t play for your team?

 

[HuskyHawk]

You should go to FanDuel and take them over 7.5 wins at +630.

I took them under 4.5 wins and to have the worst record in the NFL at +400

Good luck. I didn’t bother with the over 4.5 because it’s the lowest odds W/L bet in the whole NFL.

 

[Deepster]

He’s hasn’t. One moronic, truly stupid local media guy said that. It’s very far from reality.

Any comments on trading fir guys who won’t play for your team?

It was a conditional 3rd rounder that would end up being a 6th if he doesn't play.

He's over a barrel. Sitting out a year at his position at age 29 is not a good idea and the Jets don't need him to make or break their season.

 

[HuskyHawk]

It was a conditional 3rd rounder that would end up being a 6th if he doesn't play.

He's over a barrel. Sitting out a year at his position at age 29 is not a good idea and the Jets don't need him to make or break their season.

It's not fatal, but without him the depth is going to be tested. I happen to think the Jets have the best roster in the AFC East, but that window is small, because I just don't think Rogers is going to be like Brady past age 42 or so and there's no young QB on the roster aside from Travis. So missing a top tier DE is not a good thing.

I expect a pretty exciting season in the AFC East. I see it like this.
Jets: Significantly improved
Pats: Improved
Bills: Slightly worse
Miami: Worse

 

[HeGotGame]

Good luck. I didn’t bother with the over 4.5 because it’s the lowest odds W/L bet in the whole NFL.

Well those bets looking better and better each day

 

[HuskyHawk]

Well those bets looking better and better each day

Because they traded Judon? He was my favorite player on the team, but he was expendable because White is an absolute stud at DE. The big loss is Barmore to blood clots, he was the best player on the team.

 

[HeGotGame]

Because they traded Judon? He was my favorite player on the team, but he was expendable because White is an absolute stud at DE. The big loss is Barmore to blood clots, he was the best player on the team.

Never change. It's amazing and hilarious these posts.

1 career sack and 64 PFF grade. Absolute stud!

 

[HuskyHawk]

Never change. It's amazing and hilarious these posts.

1 career sack and 64 PFF grade. Absolute stud!

He was a rookie with an injury in college so didn’t really play.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Solid performance. As predicted Keion White is a star. Mondre was underrated. Jacoby didn’t do much, just leaned on the run game and D, with some heady scrambles.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Never change. It's amazing and hilarious these posts.

1 career sack and 64 PFF grade. Absolute stud!

 

[Deepster]

Solid performance. As predicted Keion White is a star. Mondre was underrated. Jacoby didn’t do much, just leaned on the run game and D, with some heady scrambles.

I watched the game and you had to like what you saw. They kept Burrow off the field and ate the clock up all day. Stevenson ran hard and Brissett did exactly what you got him there to do. I think you can keep Brissett in there and plug Maye in at some point later in the season when you want to see what he's got without pressure. And the team seems to have bought into Mayo, which is a good thing.

On the flip side? Burrow looks terribly average after a gangbusters first couple years. I'm not sure I sink a ton into Chase with the thought that combo is your future SB contender for the next 4-5 years.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I watched the game and you had to like what you saw. They kept Burrow off the field and ate the clock up all day. Stevenson ran hard and Brissett did exactly what you got him there to do. I think you can keep Brissett in there and plug Maye in at some point later in the season when you want to see what he's got without pressure. And the team seems to have bought into Mayo, which is a good thing.

On the flip side? Burrow looks terribly average after a gangbusters first couple years. I'm not sure I sink a ton into Chase with the thought that combo is your future SB contender for the next 4-5 years.

One thing I generally think is true in the NFL is that most bad teams aren't as bad as people think and most good teams aren't as good. Cleveland was supposed to be a strong playoff candidate and they looked terrible. Cinci will look good at some point.

Also, people over-value offense and under-value defense and ST. Carolina sucks because they keep focusing on offense. New Orleans offense isn't great and they lit them up. The Jets and 49ers should be a great game tonight because both are built on defense.

 

[Deepster]

One thing I generally think is true in the NFL is that most bad teams aren't as bad as people think and most good teams aren't as good. Cleveland was supposed to be a strong playoff candidate and they looked terrible. Cinci will look good at some point.

Also, people over-value offense and under-value defense and ST. Carolina sucks because they keep focusing on offense. New Orleans offense isn't great and they lit them up. The Jets and 49ers should be a great game tonight because both are built on defense.

I just hope Rodgers makes it to the 5th play. Kidding/Not Kidding.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I just hope Rodgers makes it to the 5th play. Kidding/Not Kidding.

I don't like the Jets, but if he's healthy and 90% of what he was, they should have the best team in the East. If he goes down, at least Taylor is somewhat capable, but I can't see them going far. I suppose that's true of most teams.

 

[HuskyHawk]

This has to be good karma. I'm excited. I'll be at the game, I expect it will be a close one.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Was at the game yesterday. Got a sunburn. The Pats side club seats were half empty as others tried to avoid the same. One huge mistake on defense cost them the game. A bogus PI call in OT didn't help either. But the passing game is just awful.

I feel for Brisset, live with a clear elevated view you can see that he's doing an incredible job of moving in and around the pocket, but he has no time to throw. The OL just can't pass block. On one play where he moved outside and threw incomplete to the right, Pop Douglas was wide open in the end zone on the left side. My sense is that he plays against the Jets, and Drake is in for San Francisco.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Ugly stuff Pats fans. We saw flashes of a passing offense for the fist time, but then what had been a brilliant rushing attack was shut down. I suppose minus two OL starters in what was already a bad unit, and against a top Jets D, that should be expected. I didn't expect the run defense that had dominated to fall apart. Some really poor tackling in the first half. They missed Bentley for sure. Rogers was brilliant. I think he's finally comfortable again.

 

[Deepster]

I don’t think the Pats have a bad team. I think they play well together and do what Mayo wants them to do. They just have a severe lack of overall talent all over the place and need to be smart reloading the next couple years. I don’t think you’ll have much better than this for this year and maybe a good part of next.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Ugly stuff Pats fans. We saw flashes of a passing offense for the fist time, but then what had been a brilliant rushing attack was shut down. I suppose minus two OL starters in what was already a bad unit, and against a top Jets D, that should be expected. I didn't expect the run defense that had dominated to fall apart. Some really poor tackling in the first half. They missed Bentley for sure. Rogers was brilliant. I think he's finally comfortable again.

Would you play Maye now? I still have PTSD from Darnold and Wilson….I would let him watch and learn.