The Official 2023 New York Jets thread

[ShakyTheMohel]

I know it's snowing but wow these offenses are bad

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

So... silver lining is the Jets send Bb home with a loss.

 

[Deepster]

See ya, Bill. Take the home loss from the Jets as your going away present.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I hate rooting for a loss. It really is in the Jets best interests to lose this game. It not only helps them but hurts the Patriots. Of course theywill win and whatever QB the Patriots draft will be a hall of famer

 

[HeGotGame]

I hate rooting for a loss. It really is in the Jets best interests to lose this game. It not only helps them but hurts the Patriots. Of course theywill win and whatever QB the Patriots draft will be a hall of famer

The Pats before and after Brady are a dumpster fire of an organization, I wouldn't worry, they will keep drafting kickers and fighting for 3rd in the AFC East for a long long long time

 

[HCCForever]

The Pats before and after Brady are a dumpster fire of an organization, I wouldn't worry, they will keep drafting kickers and fighting for 3rd in the AFC East for a long long long time

Although the Patriots lost both games, they were in the Super Bowls after the 1985 and 1996 seasons. They got smoked by the Bears but they had some success before Brady. I am neutral toward the Patriots, BTW.

 

[HeGotGame]

Although the Patriots lost both games, they were in the Super Bowls after the 1985 and 1996 seasons. They got smoked by the Bears but they had some success before Brady. I am neutral toward the Patriots, BTW.

From 1960 to 2000 and now 2020 to 2023 they won 7 playoff games and 4 division titles. That's 43 years and 5 of the 7 playoffs win came in 2 of them.

 

[HuskyHawk]

From 1960 to 2000 and now 2020 to 2023 they won 7 playoff games and 4 division titles. That's 43 years and 5 of the 7 playoffs win came in 2 of them.

The Jets are 12-13 in the playoffs all time. Those late 70s Patriots teams were much better than the Jets who had zero playoff appearances in the entire decade. Aside from 1986 to 1994, there's no long stretch of not making the playoffs back to 76. New England Patriots Playoff History | Pro-Football-Reference.com

 

[HeGotGame]

The Jets are 12-13 in the playoffs all time. Those late 70s Patriots teams were much better than the Jets who had zero playoff appearances in the entire decade. Aside from 1986 to 1994, there's no long stretch of not making the playoffs back to 76. New England Patriots Playoff History | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Yea, the Jets stink too. Although, I would take where they are right now over the Pats by a great deal.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Yea, the Jets stink too. Although, I would take where they are right now over the Pats by a great deal.

Neither team is realty that far away. Patriots have a lot more cap space to play with. Miami is dead in the water. They are -$43M in Cap without extending Tua or Waddle. Bills are -$41M, but at least their core is signed. Dolphins are going to hemorrhage talent. NFL 2024 Salary Cap Tracker

 

[HeGotGame]

Neither team is realty that far away. Patriots have a lot more cap space to play with. Miami is dead in the water. They are -$43M in Cap without extending Tua or Waddle. Bills are -$41M, but at least their core is signed. Dolphins are going to hemorrhage talent. NFL 2024 Salary Cap Tracker

While Miami may need to cut some talent, they still have plenty. Tua, Hill, Waddle, Achane will all be there. They also have a good coach and front office who have proven they can find, and utilize, talent.

Pats have no QB, no RB, league worst WRs, no TE, and a bad line. They have the worst offensive roster in the league by far. And they have proven they have zero idea of how to find offensive players in the draft or FA. I mean they let Meyers walk for JuJu which everyone laughed at, well everyone but you, just like drafting a kicker.

I don't think the Jets are far off, but the Pats are a long long way from being competitive.

 

[Deepster]

While Miami may need to cut some talent, they still have plenty. Tua, Hill, Waddle, Achane will all be there. They also have a good coach and front office who have proven they can find, and utilize, talent.

Pats have no QB, no RB, league worst WRs, no TE, and a bad line. They have the worst offensive roster in the league by far. And they have proven they have zero idea of how to find offensive players in the draft or FA. I mean they let Meyers walk for JuJu which everyone laughed at, well everyone but you, just like drafting a kicker.

I don't think the Jets are far off, but the Pats are a long long way from being competitive.

A) The way Brady patched holes is over. Like making WRs like Chris Hogan look good.

B) The days of guys like Corey Dillon and Legarrette Blount coming to NE on the cheap to win a title is over.

C) And that’s regardless of who the coach is. If they ever put an idiot like McDaniels in there? Good lord.

They won’t finish above 3rd for the next five years. The other three teams aren’t going to evaporate like you’d hope.

 

[HuskyHawk]

While Miami may need to cut some talent, they still have plenty. Tua, Hill, Waddle, Achane will all be there. They also have a good coach and front office who have proven they can find, and utilize, talent.

Pats have no QB, no RB, league worst WRs, no TE, and a bad line. They have the worst offensive roster in the league by far. And they have proven they have zero idea of how to find offensive players in the draft or FA. I mean they let Meyers walk for JuJu which everyone laughed at, well everyone but you, just like drafting a kicker.

I don't think the Jets are far off, but the Pats are a long long way from being competitive.

Stephenson is a very good RB. The OL is fine except LT if they resign Onwenu at RT. Hunter Henry is at least league average or better. WR is a disaster except Douglas and Bourne. QB is a disaster. Play calling is a disaster.

 

[HeGotGame]

Stephenson is a very good RB. The OL is fine except LT if they resign Onwenu at RT. Hunter Henry is at least league average or better. WR is a disaster except Douglas and Bourne. QB is a disaster. Play calling is a disaster.

Hunter Henry is not good and he is a FA anyways. Same, for both, for Bourne.

A very good RB doesn't have 0 games rushing for over 100 yards on the year. but if you are looking for 60 yards a game at 3.5 a pop, he is your guy.

 

[Husky25]

Only the Jets can make a trade for a hall of Fame quarterback a trainwreck.

Twice...and with the same team!!!

(Though to be fair, While the Jets missed the playoffs in 2008, they were 9-7 and Favre made the Pro Bowl.).

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Macafee has paused Rodgers appearances on his show. He realized they really stepped in it yesterday. It was all conspiracy theories and no sports. I wouldn't be surprised if Rodgers plays the victim now and retires. That feels in character.

I would be ok with the Jets starting over. Let Rodgers go. Fire Douglas and Saleh. HireVrabel and draft a second tier quarterback. And sign a Minshew type.

They rook a shot at a quick fix..they failed. Again

They have a good enough core to attract a decent gm and coach

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

If you are a Jets fan, you need to read today’s article in The Athletic. Its a behind the scenes expose on the dysfuntion of the team this year.

Reading this makes me believe more than ever that this team needs to clean house. They won’t.but they should. I honestly thought there was widespread respect for Saleh in the locker room. Now he is described as the “paranoid” head coah.

If Douglas wants to take control of the team over again….a good start is firing Hackett. It would show the team that Rodgers doesn’t run the show and it sill improve team morale.