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Husky25

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I would say that Simmons realizes the Pats are by far the worst team in the AFC East now.
He used to be a must-read 20 years ago and has certainly lost his fastball, but he's not wrong.

Have The Jets done anything to address their Defense, or just ticket sales?
 
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Says the guy who's 42 year old QB walked away and won a Super Bowl with someone else.

Rodgers won the MVP in 2020 and 2021. It's not like they're trotting Johnny Unitas out there.
 
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He used to be a must-read 20 years ago and has certainly lost his fastball, but he's not wrong.

Have The Jets done anything to address their Defense, or just ticket sales?
Their defense that was 4th in scoring, 4th in yards, 5th in 3rd down %, 5th DVOA and 3rd in weighted DVOA.

Honestly, your football posts are really something. The Bill Simmons post makes sense now.
 
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I think this is the best solution for Zach. He can learn from his idol.
“No one works harder, no one loves ball more than Zach Wilson. And him having the opportunity to really shadow and be with a first-ballot, Hall of Fame quarterback every day, every hour he’s in the building, that’s a great opportunity and a great experience.”


Hmmm, not sure about that. You really want that weirdo being the mentor to your young QB who already has all kinds of maturity and mental issues?
 

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Says the guy who's 42 year old QB walked away and won a Super Bowl with someone else.

Rodgers won the MVP in 2020 and 2021. It's not like they're trotting Johnny Unitas out there.
Irrelevant.

The point of the tweet was how the Jets gave up a ransom for a player whom they had no competition in acquiring.

Brady is a freak and an outlier. I guess we'll find out if Rodgers is similar. Odds appear against.
 

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Zava has arrived in NJ. Prepare! Hopefully his brought his mystical stones and incense.

 

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“No one works harder, no one loves ball more than Zach Wilson. And him having the opportunity to really shadow and be with a first-ballot, Hall of Fame quarterback every day, every hour he’s in the building, that’s a great opportunity and a great experience.”


Hmmm, not sure about that. You really want that weirdo being the mentor to your young QB who already has all kinds of maturity and mental issues?
Well...mentor him on being a great football player. Not on how to set up interviews with Joe Rogan.
 

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Not bitter. Should be entertaining. I don't know if he'll be great or piss off everyone and ruin the culture.
It'll be interesting to see how he approaches this change. He said today that he will be at practice tomorrow. In recent years at GB he didn't participate in OTAs. So....that's a positive sign that he gets that he needs to assimilate with his new team.

Jets currently do have a good culture...they survived the Moore hissy fit and dissension caused by Zach's words and poor play. I think they should be ok....but only time will tell.
 
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Not bitter. Should be entertaining. I don't know if he'll be great or piss off everyone and ruin the culture.
Small items but I was pleased to see him cleaner cut and wearing Jets gear. At least it looked like he was towing the company line on Day 1.

I have said, this isn't Wisconsin. If they lose a couple, if he plays badly? The NY Media will not tolerate being told to relax or that he's crawling in a hole in Haiti on the bye week. And once they turn on you and take a bite out? They rarely reverse course.
 

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Not bitter. Should be entertaining. I don't know if he'll be great or piss off everyone and ruin the culture.
Bitter? Why? When was the last time the Jets beat the Patriots? (Had to look it up, 2015) And will this year be any different? What I am looking forward to is the relationship between the team and the press, because this should be interesting, as in Chinese curse, "May you live in interesting times."
 

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Small items but I was pleased to see him cleaner cut and wearing Jets gear. At least it looked like he was towing the company line on Day 1.

I have said, this isn't Wisconsin. If they lose a couple, if he plays badly? The NY Media will not tolerate being told to relax or that he's crawling in a hole in Haiti on the bye week. And once they turn on you and take a bite out? They rarely reverse course.
I don’t buy that. NY media is tough, but the Packers are by far the more storied and popular team. The pressure and expectations in Green Bay are higher. Jets aren’t the Yankees. But he won’t have the fan loyalty he did in GB, that’s true.
 

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I don’t buy that. NY media is tough, but the Packers are by far the more storied and popular team. The pressure and expectations in Green Bay are higher. Jets aren’t the Yankees. But he won’t have the fan loyalty he did in GB, that’s true.
I don't know. They are passionate but nice. They care...a lot. But they won't call out a hall of famer. They are reasonable...they aren't crazy Jets fans...lol.

I think it will be different for him...the media will ask tougher questions...they won't let him off the hook. But...if he performs...it won't be an issue. I think he is cranky with GB and wants to prove they made a mistake.

I am optimistic.
 
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I don’t buy that. NY media is tough, but the Packers are by far the more storied and popular team. The pressure and expectations in Green Bay are higher. Jets aren’t the Yankees. But he won’t have the fan loyalty he did in GB, that’s true.
That is just not true. Name one player on the Packers they've treated like the NY media treated Sam Darnold. Or Adam Gase. Or Rex Ryan. Or Leveon Bell. Or (insert any of the other hundreds there are). Just name one.

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That is just not true. Name one player on the Packers they've treated like the NY media treated Sam Darnold. Or Adam Gase. Or Rex Ryan. Or Leveon Bell. Or (insert any of the other hundreds there are). Just name one.

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Is Rodgers really being compared to Sam Darnold?

If Rodgers wins in NY, he won't have to worry about negativity from the Press. He's not Roger Maris chasing Babe Ruth. The Jets haven't had a winning record since 2015 and haven't been to the playoffs since 2010.

On the other hand, He has no excuses after the Jets brought in his binkies in Hackett and Lazard.
 
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Is Rodgers really being compared to Sam Darnold?

If Rodgers wins in NY, he won't have to worry about negativity from the Press. He's not Roger Maris chasing Babe Ruth. The Jets haven't had a winning record since 2015 and haven't been to the playoffs since 2010.

On the other hand, He has no excuses after the Jets brought in his binkies in Hackett and Lazard.
What are you talking about? You said the GB media was just as tough and demanding as NY and that's ridiculous under any circumstance. Give me one player the Wisconsin media was tough on, even close to how the NY media treats people weekly. You can't.
 

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What are you talking about? You said the GB media was just as tough and demanding as NY and that's ridiculous under any circumstance. Give me one player the Wisconsin media was tough on, even close to how the NY media treats people weekly. You can't.
That wasn't me.
 
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Rodgers will handle the NY media just fine the question is can the NY media handle him. You don’t have to be a saint to play in NY.
 

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HuskyHawk/Husky25 confusion. My bad.
No problem.

Rodgers has a track record, and it's much better than any of the players/coaches mentioned above. I think the New York media will cut Rodgers some slack initially, but he has to perform. They don't have to go 13-4, but 8-9 is not what he was brought in for, even if it is an improvement.
 

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If Rodgers plays a full season....10 wins is the bare minimum. They really should win 11 or more. 9 or less and the trade is a failure.

Again... assuming he plays a full season.
 

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Well...that was an interesting first pick. When I heard they swapped to 15 from 13 in the Rodgers trade, I didn't think it was a big deal. It was. They were shut out from the top OTs. McDonald seems like a reach...that might have been there in the second round.

You gotta think they have a plan with all those DEs. Does it mean they release Lawson for cap space? I don't know...but this pick seems odd.
 
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Well...that was an interesting first pick. When I heard they swapped to 15 from 13 in the Rodgers trade, I didn't think it was a big deal. It was. They were shut out from the top OTs. McDonald seems like a reach...that might have been there in the second round.

You gotta think they have a plan with all those DEs. Does it mean they release Lawson for cap space? I don't know...but this pick seems odd.
I feel like they definitely got hoodwinked there and panicked. McDonald is a situational player, not every down that you DEFINITELY don't need as much as another OL piece to protect a guy that's getting almost 100m next season (salary and deferred money). And we have no backup QB.
 

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I feel like they definitely got hoodwinked there and panicked. McDonald is a situational player, not every down that you DEFINITELY don't need as much as another OL piece to protect a guy that's getting almost 100m next season (salary and deferred money). And we have no backup QB.
Well...I like picking up a center in round two. I still worry they need another OT...but since AVT is flexible, maybe they are ok.

I am happy Douglas didn't draft another DE...lol.

And...I think they are reworking the contract...it won't be $100mm next year.
 

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