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The Official 2016 Mets Thread
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Yeah, I saw that a minute after I posted that. Oh well. I will be happy with Bruce.
As someone who doesn't follow the Mets at all, what's the deal with Herrera? Big time upside?
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He's been marketed as our second baseman of the future for a few years and was said to be the reason Daniel Murphy was somewhat expendable in the Mets view because Herrera was seen as a defensive upgrade with the potential to be a reliable bat (of course no one expected Murph to continue to consistently produce offensively the way he has this season, or else it would have been a no-brainer to keep him). Herrera came up a few times to spell Murphy and did well but not great and the question has remained how ready he is to produce offensively in the bigs, and he's had an inconsistent (but improving) season in Vegas this year. He probably should be starting somewhere in the majors to get a fair shake, but when the Mets acquired Neil Walker Herrera was blocked.
It is somewhat telling that they didn't even consider him when Wright went down for the season (could have moved Walker to third), so it may be that they are not sold on his offense, which is clearly a concern for us now.
As a trade piece for Bruce, he's a lot less valuable than Zack Wheeler imo, and that's who Cincy wanted for Bruce last year, so I'm happy we at least got a better deal this time.
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I like the move less with Herrera sent instead of Nimmo. Herrera saw MLB time at age 20 and is still pretty raw but young and I think, has a bigger shot at being more valuable. I still think that Bruce and Niese are additions that were the right caliber move where this team is right now and where we seem positioned for the next couple years. And basically trading Bastardo for Walker is a good get by Sandy.
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Duda done for the season now too.
So...anyone heading in for the game at Citi when Styx plays afterwards? Jeez, that's even sadder than the state of the team right now.
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I'm gonna be honest. I don't think they lose much overall with Loney over Duda. And I loved Mr. Roboto.
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Ha!
I agree with you about Duda and have felt that way since we got Loney. I was pushing for us to move Duda last offseason because I think his days of being a consistent offensive threat are long gone. Streaky is one thing, but I can't remember his last hot streak.
I hated Styx and consider "Mr. Roboto" the second worst song of all time, behind only Starship's "We Built this City."
PS: This game is killing me. So many blown chances. So many strikes on takes. Would have been a nice time for Bruce to get his first hit.
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He's a bit of a wild card/punk imo. He can be nasty and he's used to being in control, but he screws around with the quick pitch crap, which I hate, and he's got a bit of a rep now so he's ripe for the picking for guys like Texiera who don't take any crap.
Tex was clearly still pissed from getting plunked by Matz, which was definitely a mistake imo. Matz is a good kid and that clearly just got away from him, but you could see that Tex was still mad even after his initial outburst, as he went into second with a little extra gusto to do some damage when he was trying to break up the double play that inning. He got his revenge the next time around though by totally messing with Robles.
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Of all the problems we have, I'm going to beat on that pancake of a dead horse I've been beating all season and repeat that the catcher is the biggest. Even if we somehow manage to grab the wild card, which is almost out of reach given the number of other teams competing, there is no way we can survive a playoff series with d'Arnaud as starting catcher. Rivera is a slight defensive upgrade, but he's clearly not the answer. This needs to be priority No. 1 in the off-season.
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We have been rehashing this over and over. He is the worst. Put this in the Colon thread as well. 11 ribbies all year and cannot bunt or throw anyone out.
It's getting late in the season, the division is over. Wild card an outside shot. But with D'aza and Reynolds, Ty Kelly and Flores in the lineup ? And d'Arnaud?
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As a Sox fan who listens to Mets talk incessantly, unfortunately
I love seeing how bad d'Arnaud and Conforto are
Incredibly cocky and unlikeable players, once the full reports get out on guys like Conforto he has to basically start from scratch
Pitchers much better
I love seeing how bad d'Arnaud and Conforto are
Incredibly cocky and unlikeable players, once the full reports get out on guys like Conforto he has to basically start from scratch
Pitchers much better
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Inimitable.
Host Ralph Kiner liked to tell the story, during game broadcasts, about how Choo-Choo didn't say much and was very hard to interview. Coleman also had a bad memory for names, and called everybody "Bub". Ralph explained that he had run out of questions for Coleman, so he asked Choo-Choo, "What's your wife's name and what's she like?" Choo-Choo replied "My wife's name is Mrs. Coleman and she likes me, Bub."