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The first two episodes of this season are just incredible. For those who can't get past their own political biases, the whole season is about how the Newsroom goes out on a limb on an anti-military story and gets it wrong, resulting in the major characters getting in deep, deep s&*^. I am not giving away any spoilers, since you learn that in the first 15 minutes of the first episode of the season. So if you need to see bad things happen to liberals to enjoy a show, this is the show for you.

This is a much more interesting assessment of how the newsroom runs. All the segment producers continually pitch the EP, and it is interesting to hear her reasons for declining them. Mackenzie has become much more realistic this season than she was last season.
 
The further you are to the left the more you'll like the Newsroom. Surprise, Nelson loves this trash. You must have been jumping for joy when Jeff Daniels was telling everyone how dangerous the Tea Party is. LOL. It's a joke.
 
Excalibur said:
I'm guessing that Palatine has only seen the advertisements . . .
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In his defense, I imagine it's hard to see when you're being tea-bagged.
 
Actually, while I've liked the show, I think the writing has been a mess this year. I'm starting to have a hard time with it.
 
I love Sorkin, and am as so far to the left I think Obama is a Republican, but the show is a hot mess. SOOOOOOO disappointed.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
The first two episodes of this season are just incredible. For those who can't get past their own political biases, the whole season is about how the Newsroom goes out on a limb on an anti-military story and gets it wrong, resulting in the major characters getting in deep, deep s& ^. I am not giving away any spoilers, since you learn that in the first 15 minutes of the first episode of the season. So if you need to see bad things happen to liberals to enjoy a show, this is the show for you.

This is a much more interesting assessment of how the newsroom runs. All the segment producers continually pitch the EP, and it is interesting to hear her reasons for declining them. Mackenzie has become much more realistic this season than she was last season.
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So the show is about MSNBC?

I admit I have only watched one episode and it didn't do anything for me.
 
uconnbill said:
So the show is about MSNBC?

I admit I have only watched one episode and it didn't do anything for me.
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It is actually based on CNN. I would imagine the closest parallel for the Jeff Daniels character is Anderson Cooper, who does everything he can to avoid being too political.
 
The show has SOOOO many problems, but I really like Sorkin dialogue so I keep watching. And I have to say, the last 2 episodes were the least annoying, and therefore the best, that the show has had that I can remember.

Keep the women from being annoying and limit Maggie as much as possible, and you have the outlines of a good show. Bringing this season into the realm of the fictional was a good move because the show could not do what it did the first season for 5 seasons.
 
Palatine said:
The further you are to the left the more you'll like the Newsroom. Surprise, Nelson loves this trash. You must have been jumping for joy when Jeff Daniels was telling everyone how dangerous the Tea Party is. LOL. It's a joke.
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They're doing something right. It appears it was renewed for a 3rd season.

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Palatine said:
The further you are to the left the more you'll like the Newsroom. Surprise, Nelson loves this trash. You must have been jumping for joy when Jeff Daniels was telling everyone how dangerous the Tea Party is. LOL. It's a joke.
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The tea party is dangerous.
 
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Anyone who likes this show is a complete mouth breather with an IQ lower than 100. The worse part is these mouth breathers think they are "smart" because they watch and laugh at the "witty" lines spouted out by some of the worst characters in TV.

Did I mention I hate this show?
 
You can like whatever you want, but you sound a little silly when you say that people that like a show like this are stupid. Like most of Sorkin's stuff, if you don't have a wide range of knowledge of both the world and pop culture, a lot of the show will not make any sense. Pretentious liberal weenies? Maybe. Stupid? Probably not.
 
Actually. after getting past the first few episodes this year which were a mess because the writing was trying to be too "smart" the ship is righting some. I took a break for a while and then, after catching up, I think it is worth a watch. Like Homeland, which also was becoming messy with too many curve balls to be anywhere near believable, when the writers dial back again, the stuff starts to ring true.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
I thought it was a solid season. Not as good as the first, but still good.
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I liked it a lot better than the first until the last 15 minutes of the last episode. I will wait a few days in case anyone is going to watch a rerun or on-demand, but Newsroom violated a cardinal rule of plot pacing for a series.

I liked the presentation of the season as a major screw up through the eyes of the lawyer. Pretty original way to narrate a season.

The episode where everyone realizes that Dantana had screwed up with major consequences to all of them was perfectly done. I have been around professional situations where a member of a team screws up massively. It is very hard to explain that feeling of fear and rage and helplessness that everyone on the team feels. The show nailed it.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
I liked it a lot better than the first until the last 15 minutes of the last episode. I will wait a few days in case anyone is going to watch a rerun or on-demand, but Newsroom violated a cardinal rule of plot pacing for a series.

I liked the presentation of the season as a major screw up through the eyes of the lawyer. Pretty original way to narrate a season.

The episode where everyone realizes that Dantana had screwed up with major consequences to all of them was perfectly done. I have been around professional situations where a member of a team screws up massively. It is very hard to explain that feeling of fear and rage and helplessness that everyone on the team feels. The show nailed it.
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I agree. I also liked the fact I was able to look at Marcia Gay Harden for several weeks :)

They went a little too flimsy on the ending, but I can overlook that in the big picture. Imagine a major news organization admitting they were wrong.....
 
ending, what ever, but over all the season was better than the first.

the show is still a hot mess though, unfulfilled potential
 
I watched the last episode. Every character is just so self absorbed. None of them are even remotely likeable. Pass.
 
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The problem I had with the end of the season is that putting Will and Mack together destroys the show. You can't continue sexual tension if they are a happy, or unhappy, couple. Putting the two leads together is something you do in the final episode of the series, not the final one of the second season. I have seen reviews in the last day that acknowledged the same issue, and are questioning whether the show will be back. I suspect that a 12 month return is off the table, but maybe by year end next year. Sorkin has multiple projects, and may be tired of TV.

I think the show has about an 80% chance of returning, but I would also not be surprised if it gets delayed until the actors wander off.
 
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I imagine that HBO will be pretty angry with Sorkin if he is hanging it up on Newsroom. Newroom is one of those rare syndicatable shows on HBO. There is no nudity, and the bad language is few and far between. On broadcast television, many shows are more profitable for the network and the producers in syndication than they were in their original run. A show like Friends was probably not that profitable during its original run because of the high salaries of the cast, but has made a fortune in syndication. Most HBO shows do not translate well to syndication because of the violence, sex and bad language. It was strange watching the Sopranos when it was on A&E on Sunday mornings. Entourage had a short run on Spike, and I think it is off the air now. I don't see how Game of Thrones will translate into syndication either.

Newsroom could do it, and I suspect it is a pretty expensive show to produce with Daniels, Waterston, Fonda and Emily Mortimer. So HBO will be pretty PO'd if Sorkin quits now.
 
The Newsroom is what it is: Entertainment. If you don't like it, don't watch it. If you think it is a disdainful series, don't follow dedicated threads. If you hate it with every fiber of your being, don't post on it. It's like a person saying that shimp or lobsters are disgusting and they can't fathom how anyone can like them when that person has an allergy. There are well over 100 HD channels on cable that are "free," let alone premium, and quite a few channels that are still in standard def with no HD counterpart, plus On Demand.

...Strike that. You can do whatever you want, but I personally try to avoid things that make me nauseous or put me in a bad mood, especially on a Sunday Night (though truth be told, I I rarely watch it live)...To each their own...

I agree with Nelson in that the last part of the the Season 2 finale - though I would limit it to the last 5 minutes - was terrible. Overall I like the show. McKenzie can get on my nerves, but (for example) I liked the back and forth between the Taylor Warren and Will about what it means to be a modern day Republican and I found the resignation scene between Charlie and Reece to be humorous. I don't know how long the relationship between them will last, or if it will even make it to the third season. It probably will because I think Season two picked up where 1 left off. I also think that Season 3 will happen, but it may not be until 2015. I also feel that Maggie (Alison Pill) will be a prominent character in Season 3. She has her personal issues (cut off and died her own hair). and she was the one that clicked on the news alert. There are two things I feel are preventing HBO from announcing the 3rd season: 1) The obvious one is Aaron Sorkin's schedule. On the other hand Sorkin could ease up on his writing duties for The Newsroom and just serve as executive producer. Another thing to consider is what has really happened in since November 2012 around which to warrant creating a full season?

I don't see the actors wandering off. Both John Hamm and January Jones have been prominently featured in many a separate project during Mad Men's hiatuses. We shall see.
 
Reece vs. Skinner is one of the most interesting conflicts. The struggle between Profit vs. Quality is a core theme of the show.

Season 1 Mackenzie was a bimbo that was not credible as an EP. Season 2 MacKenzie was completely credible as EP.

I like the witchy Washington anchor. I hope she has a bigger role next season.
 
Now that Sloan has figured out who bought her book at auction, look for the sparks to really fly. That repressed relationship needs to take on a life of its own.
 
Every female character on the show ranks among the worst female characters created for a cable drama. They all suck
 
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