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The MAC is officially examining expansion

Is it true that many of their programs are basically bankrupt? A failed expansion effort might be just the thing to destabilize the MAC which could lead to a Buffalo exit or, in a fantasy world, a UConn football only invite to help sure things up
 
Buffalo is a far better University and Football Program than we first saw them at the Rent - circa 2002-2005. And they have had several solid basketball HC hires. They are beyond most MAC in most metrics. Big Endowment & AAU. Great rankings in Pharmacy, STEM, Engineering.

The MAC is only getting $410,000 per year on their TV and have a lot of that Flo stuff. I think WE are better off with a regional FB conference in the Northeast with Buffalo + others.
 

Do you think C-USA would be a decent parking spot for UCONN Football if MTSU and WKU remained?
Would C-USA consider UCONN and UMass for football only?
It seems MTSU has a legit concern about playing most of their games in MAC and B1G country, recruiting wise.

UCONN
UMass

MTSU
WKU
FIU
LA TECH
UTEP
Jacksonville State
Liberty
NMSU
Sam Houston
 
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Do you think C-USA would be a decent parking spot for UCONN Football if MTSU and WKU remained?
Would C-USA consider UCONN and UMass for football only?
It seems MTSU has a legit concern about playing most of their games in MAC and B1G country, recruiting wise.

UCONN
UMass

MTSU
WKU
FIU
LA TECH
UTEP
Jacksonville State
Liberty
NMSU
Sam Houston
Not interested.
 
Do you think C-USA would be a decent parking spot for UCONN Football if MTSU and WKU remained?
Would C-USA consider UCONN and UMass for football only?
It seems MTSU has a legit concern about playing most of their games in MAC and B1G country, recruiting wise.

UCONN
UMass

MTSU
WKU
FIU
LA TECH
UTEP
Jacksonville State
Liberty
NMSU
Sam Houston
No no and no.
 
Do you think C-USA would be a decent parking spot for UCONN Football if MTSU and WKU remained?
Would C-USA consider UCONN and UMass for football only?
It seems MTSU has a legit concern about playing most of their games in MAC and B1G country, recruiting wise.

UCONN
UMass

MTSU
WKU
FIU
LA TECH
UTEP
Jacksonville State
Liberty
NMSU
Sam Houston
only with some kind of scheduling/tv autonomy + a commitment from C-USA to build a northeastern conference around us
 
only with some kind of scheduling/tv autonomy + a commitment from C-USA to build a northeastern conference around us
Building a Northeastern conference around us leaves us destined for football irrelevance and actually undermines our overall AD and national university educational brands.

I just don't get why some people on here want to relegate ourselves to that. I'd much rather put forth the effort to climb back to/get to football relevance. It is so much more in line with everything else going on at the University.
 
look

If we can have a Regional Conference - the NEW Yankee - with

UMASS
UCONN
Delaware
Buffalo
Villanova
Towson

We'd do it. All day. Then we'd have 5 conference games in that alliance & maybe 3 across the time zones. 4 more P5 or FCS regional

I believe we'd do far better than the MAC or Sun Belt in rights per annum fees. Keep our Basketball and Olympics separate. What my core point ... there is not gonna be an opening for UCONN in P5 in the next decade. It will be hard - at times - to be that Independent for that long
 
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We - UCONN - are not in the 40-50 today. There are 65 P5 schools; and this anticipates trashing a bunch - which IMHO is already earth moving thoughts. Vandy Duke Washington State Missouri Northwestern ... who needs you. Got $70m one year; gone the next.

That rings true.

Middle Tennessee is never going to be upgraded to the higher tier. No way. Just cannot think the elitist Academic element allows that. We were too late to the game. This also makes the newby rising a non factor. I bet the Houston, Cincinnati, Boise, BYU, UCF puts them deep at the back of the queue. BTW - I think this means BC and Syracuse also aren't in the top.

How do we maximize our Football revenue and Brand; how do we play at our highest level given our location.
 
Building a Northeastern conference around us leaves us destined for football irrelevance and actually undermines our overall AD and national university educational brands.

I just don't get why some people on here want to relegate ourselves to that. I'd much rather put forth the effort to climb back to/get to football relevance. It is so much more in line with everything else going on at the University.
what does football relevance even mean in this context? B1G eligibility down the line? i'm not really clear how a program with strong regional rivalries/regional interest that can get back on its feet and regularly sends guys to the League puts the program in a worse position. the NCAA is trending towards ~20 "relevant" teams in the traditional, big-money, national attention focus. i don't think UConn is going to make the cut there (at least in the next few rounds of reorganization)
 
what does football relevance even mean in this context? B1G eligibility down the line? i'm not really clear how a program with strong regional rivalries/regional interest that can get back on its feet and regularly sends guys to the League puts the program in a worse position. the NCAA is trending towards ~20 "relevant" teams in the traditional, big-money, national attention focus. i don't think UConn is going to make the cut there (at least in the next few rounds of reorganization)
I'm not talking about B10 or even P4/P5. I'm talking about building a program that is in whatever middle ground exists between the top tier or two (~top 40) and the rest of the G5 and below. We lived in that range for a decent stretch in the first 15 years of this century. There's no reason why can't do it again (obviously we have to hire the right staff first).

My personal opinion is that our best road to that is to stay Independent for a while (?10 years?) rather than jump a rung or two down the ladder now. My reference point is that we are already scheduling above our punching weight now so why jump down now?
 
Do you think C-USA would be a decent parking spot for UCONN Football if MTSU and WKU remained?
Would C-USA consider UCONN and UMass for football only?
It seems MTSU has a legit concern about playing most of their games in MAC and B1G country, recruiting wise.

UCONN
UMass

MTSU
WKU
FIU
LA TECH
UTEP
Jacksonville State
Liberty
NMSU
Sam Houston
Yes, anything is better than independence.

Upwardly mobile head coaching candidates would rather play this schedule than the murderer's row schedule we have lined up next year and at the end of the day players want to win and be part of winning programs and we are probably not gonna do much winning against the P5.

Play this schedule plus 3 games against the P5 and we would be in a much better place.

Stay independent and we may never break the cycle of losing.

Plus there is no such thing as independence for UCONN football, our independence makes us beggers.
 
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and if you need proof we play Clemson this week. Few are really excited about it. There is more Buzz for UCONN vs Central than there is for UCONN vs Clemson.
 
and if you need proof we play Clemson this week. Few are really excited about it. There is more Buzz for UCONN vs Central than there is for UCONN vs Clemson.
There is no buzz for football to play anyone because we won’t win. If we had Tyler at QB and Mazzone running the offense, I’d be excited for the game. Heck, I’d be somewhat excited if we just had Mazzone back. This season has fallen apart because the staff can’t run an offense. Inside handoff on 3rd and 10 just doesn’t instill confidence in the fan base.
 
Absolutely not/no interest for C-USA (and UMass won't be going there... they've already more or less begged C-USA to allow them to join for football only, if C-USA didn't have interest when they were desperate for numbers just to survive; they won't have interest in UMass football only now).

If we blamed lack of recognizable opponents for the flagging attendance (which is BS, its the losing, give people a reason to believe they'll see a competitive game that their team can (or should) win and you'll fix the attendance issues)... C-USA is that on steroids. (Sam Houston State (probably the best team in that league in a year or two)? Louisiana Monroe? Jacksonville State (fun fact, that's the one in Alabama)?)

The C-USA TV deal is a trainwreck.. and UConn's football TV deal alone is significantly better than the per team share for C-USA for all sports. The UConn TV deal would be hurt (even if C-USA allowed the school to keep it) as it's based in part on the attractiveness of the home games that UConn can draw. ULM - UConn is not an attractive game for the CBS Sports Network schedule.

The fact is we have largely full independent schedules going into the future. The teams losing out of conference games that will now become conference matchups will provide additional openings to schedule teams, even later in the year. (Plus UMass & Army are around for late season match-ups among the remaining independents). As an Independent UConn has the ability to follow the Army model to schedule attractive games, as well as enough games to keep the team at/around bowl eligibility.

The lack of a conference schedule should not be a hindrance to a attracting a coach, in fact some coaches may welcome the control over their schedule; and honestly if Independence vs. the C-USA trainwreck is the deal-breaker for a coaching candidate, it's probably not someone UConn wanted. Particularly when you look at the facilities and the differences between what coaches would see looking at other G5-level jobs. The key for coaching candidates will be to believe that the university and state are committed to supporting the football program at a high-enough level. That goes beyond the 0s in the coaches' own contract.... will there be money to attract a strong staff? will there be continued facility investment? will there be a commitment to accepting the athletes (into the school) the coach deems a priority? after cycling through 3 coaches in 10 seasons of play (not counting the 2 interim coaches for mid-year terminations) will the school give the coach a chance to turn things around? or will they bail on the coach (and the commitment to the program) if improvements don't immediately register in the standings?

Some conference football only affiliates might benefit UConn... but a C-USA football-only affiliate does not and should be a non-starter.
 
I hear ya. These folks are though.


They also were thinking that MTSU and WKU were leaving.. and that by adding UConn and UMass, they'd be adding Maine shortly thereafter.
 
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not to be that guy, but, an opening for us perhaps F-O?
 
and if you need proof we play Clemson this week. Few are really excited about it. There is more Buzz for UCONN vs Central than there is for UCONN vs Clemson.
Lol because football sucks this year

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not to be that guy, but, an opening for us perhaps F-O?

Yes hopefully we are now in play for a football only offer. We'd be fools not to take it. Right now we are about as independent as a beggar on a street corner.

Being completely reliant on the goodwill of others to stay afloat is not independence, it's more like an outcast.
 
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