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The House case

superjohn said:
Just a handful or so posters who have been saying for many years that UConn basketball will be left out and won't be able to compete anymore. In recent years the talk turned to the couple/few power conferences will hold their own tournament leaving UConn and a bunch of other great basketball schools out of the tournament.
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I think the belief (not my belief, I have no ideal what the heck is going to happen) is that if the P4 don't get their way then they will do that. "Their way" is the addition of more NCAA bids, and their times getting those bids. If they don't, then they may walk from the NCAA and its tournament and start their own. Would the BE be invited? Who knows. Would it be on lesser terms? Who knows. Would the new P4 tournament be successful? Probably not as successful as the current tournament, but the P4 (really the P2) doesn't seem to care as long as they make more money in the short term.
 
superjohn said:
Just a handful or so posters who have been saying for many years that UConn basketball will be left out and won't be able to compete anymore. In recent years the talk turned to the couple/few power conferences will hold their own tournament leaving UConn and a bunch of other great basketball schools out of the tournament.
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Ohhhhhh. I thought you meant the board of trustees of the university.
 
Chuck said:
I think the belief (not my belief, I have no ideal what the heck is going to happen) is that if the P4 don't get their way then they will do that. "Their way" is the addition of more NCAA bids, and their times getting those bids. If they don't, then they may walk from the NCAA and its tournament and start their own. Would the BE be invited? Who knows. Would it be on lesser terms? Who knows. Would the new P4 tournament be successful? Probably not as successful as the current tournament, but the P4 (really the P2) doesn't seem to care as long as they make more money in the short term.
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The proposed settlement means the NCAA basketball tournament will remain in place for at least the next decade as that is the main funding for the settlement.
 
Fishy said:
You just cannot be dumber than the usual suspects here.

lol…like, have you paid any attention to what’s been happening?
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I don't get the victory lap here. The schools hoarding most of the revenue just passed off most of the settlement onto the NCAA/Other 27 conferences. Most of the settlement money is going to P5 Football players. If they want to expand the tournament and get more bids, they will get just that.
 
noeynox said:
I don't get the victory lap here. The schools hoarding most of the revenue just passed off most of the settlement onto the NCAA/Other 27 conferences. Most of the settlement money is going to P5 Football players. If they want to expand the tournament and get more bids, they will get just that.
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Victory lap?

It's another disaster in an ever unfolding series of disasters.

We don't have a free cent and we just got a $7M bill to pay Alabama's football players and another multimillion dollar yearly obligation for revenue sharing.

The "we're fine" crowd is a bunch of dingbats.
 
Fishy said:
Victory lap?

It's another disaster in an ever unfolding series of disasters.

We don't have a free cent and we just got a $7M bill to pay Alabama's football players and another multimillion dollar yearly obligation for revenue sharing.

The "we're fine" crowd is a bunch of dingbats.
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Wait till all the “fine print” leaks out and calculated…

 
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Fishy said:
Victory lap?

It's another disaster in an ever unfolding series of disasters.

We don't have a free cent and we just got a $7M bill to pay Alabama's football players and another multimillion dollar yearly obligation for revenue sharing.

The "we're fine" crowd is a bunch of dingbats.
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I quoted you by accident. I didn't mean you were taking a victory lap, i was actually agreeing with your point. This wasn't a victory to anyone but the P5 schools.
 
Governance has been seized by the P2. In conjunction with the new CFP deal, the ACC and Big 12 have essentially conceded all decision making to the SEC and B1G going forward.

The P2 will control all governance of the highest level of college sports going forward. The ACC and Big 12 will be non-factors in governance with no veto power over anything, including additional realignment.

The P2 Commissioners are collaborating vs. competing to a much larger extent than ever before.
 
huskymedic said:
From earlier today:

www.cbssports.com

Historic House case settlement has college basketball -- not college football -- to thank for saving the NCAA

The NCAA Tournament is the only reason we're here, and ironically enough, college basketball's landscape will still take a huge hit despite saving the day
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
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Article is sobering but we knew this. How anyone can read that and not realize that the B1G and SEC will continue tea bagging everyone else including the Big12 and ACC is mind-blowing.

Part of me feels they're better off if there is a break off.
 
Fishy said:
Victory lap?

It's another disaster in an ever unfolding series of disasters.

We don't have a free cent and we just got a $7M bill to pay Alabama's football players and another multimillion dollar yearly obligation for revenue sharing.

The "we're fine" crowd is a bunch of dingbats.
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I don't get the Edgelord bit. There is not a single person that regularly posts on this board that doesn't get that UConn has some challenges on the conference front. Some us just choose not to rub the obvious in everyone's face every day.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I don't get the Edgelord bit. There is not a single person that regularly posts on this board that doesn't get that UConn has some challenges on the conference front. Some us just choose not to rub the obvious in everyone's face every day.
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Touche
 
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huskymedic said:
Wait till all the “fine print” leaks out and calculated…

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Do not understand how revenue split between sports will be impacted by Title IX. I think revenue share should be split to the sports by the amount of revenue that sport brings in. So example in the P4 most of the revenue from TV deals to gate receipts to merchandise comes from Football. If done this way UConn MBB would be in the higher echelon of P4 schools. UConn WBB is probably in the top 5 P4 schools. The scholarships provided will still have to match between men and women sports due to title IX.
 
Do Universities start dropping sports like track and field, swimming, lacrosse etc.... from D1 to club sports so they are off the books?
 
noeynox said:
I don't get the victory lap here. The schools hoarding most of the revenue just passed off most of the settlement onto the NCAA/Other 27 conferences. Most of the settlement money is going to P5 Football players. If they want to expand the tournament and get more bids, they will get just that.
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Does anyone really believe they're finished? This is a slow boil. They've been focused on mostly football and nil recently, but don't worry about it. They'll get to turning the screws on basketball eventually. The G-5/6/7/8 plays by their rules and it's their game. Until they decide to split completely. There is no bottom to the lust for power until it's complete. The facade of anything different is only maintained by the lackeys in the media.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
I wonder if the P2 are trying to force/push this so as to prepare everyone for a P2 breakaway in the years ahead? Force the divorce kind of thing.
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This deal guarantees that the B1G/SEC aren't breaking away alone. If anything it is a sign that the P4/Notre Dame are laying the groundwork to potentially breakaway down the road. It makes it iffy whether or not the Big East is part of that though I would have to say that it is likely that they are brought along.
 
One other interesting aspect of the settlement is that it eliminates NCAA scholarship caps and contemplates new roster limits, meaning in sports like baseball, where scholarships are often split into small amounts across the team, full scholarships can now be offered to everyone on the roster if they have the funding.
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I hadn't seen this before.

Source: 10 Things To Know About The NCAA’s House Settlement (traced back through the tweet sources)
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
That is not what I said. I said that if the P2 has so much leverage, why don't they just make the other schools pay all of it?
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That's a great question, and it is because the P2 don't have nearly the power that the media and some fans give them.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
, reductio ad absurdum
So are they now going to compensate SMU for their loss of millions of dollars due to the death penalty they received for doing something that they’re now mandating.. Why not ? Also of no what’s the rationale .
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They cleverly got around that by only compensating damages created over the previous four years prior to the NCAA's 2021 ruling.
 
TheCatsLair said:
This deal guarantees that the B1G/SEC aren't breaking away alone. If anything it is a sign that the P4/Notre Dame are laying the groundwork to potentially breakaway down the road. It makes it iffy whether or not the Big East is part of that though I would have to say that it is likely that they are brought along.
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There is no way in hell you can possibly see what has happened over the last two weeks and deduce “it’s likely the Big East will be brought along”

The Big East teams outside of UConn can hardly afford the settlement payments (see Val’s angry note) and upcoming revenue split. We’re at the top of the iceberg. And the BE isn’t even in the room where these important decisions are being made- it is the A4 + Notre Dame and that is it.
 
TheCatsLair said:
That's a great question, and it is because the P2 don't have nearly the power that the media and some fans give them.
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They literally have the legislative authority to write their own rules within the NCAA and just forced non-football leagues + G5 to pay 60% of the settlement.

What on Earth are you talking about?
 
I think this House settlement is turning really bad for football. If only 30-35 schools are going to be able to play big time football, the remaining schools will cut back on scholarships. This will impact the number of kids that pursue scholarships in football. The cost of running a big time football program could set off a doom loop in the sport.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I think this House settlement is turning really bad for football. If only 30-35 schools are going to be able to play big time football, the remaining schools will cut back on scholarships. This will impact the number of kids that pursue scholarships in football. The cost of running a big time football program could set off a doom loop in the sport.
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Fine by me. It will give us a viable escape route from this nonsense.
 
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