The fix is in

[Leebo]

It wasn't going in. And it obviously wasn't going in. That's the only important piece of info.

 

[dtrumpet]

these conspiracy comments are ridiculous, please stop.

the overhead camera angle is inconclusive, the one from the left side is best...that ball was not near the rim.

what a great day of games.

 

[tzznandrew]

it was still touched on the way down above the rim

Read the rule:

It has to be going down, above the rim, and have the possibility of going in.

It wasn't doing the last of the three. Therefore, it's not a goaltend.

 

[tzznandrew]

these conspiracy comments are ridiculous, please stop.

the overhead camera angle is inconclusive, the one from the left side is best...that ball was not near the rim.

what a great day of games.

Not a conspiracy. A bad call.

If there was a conspiracy against the American, they failed horribly against a Cincy team that seemed to want to lose.

 

[Husky25]

The bottom of the ball is below the rim. Was it going to levitate at that moment and take an immediate left turn?

Back...and to the left. Back...and to the left. Back...and to the left. Back...and to the left. Back...and to the left.

(Too soon?)

 

[dtrumpet]

Not a conspiracy. A bad call.

If there was a conspiracy against the American, they failed horribly against a Cincy team that seemed to want to lose.

no kidding. Caupain gets the friendly roll after badly missing an easy layup after the steal. Just one bonehead play after another, but they move on. Purdue didn't get the bounces on the rim Cinci did when it counted. If they beat Kentucky, I'll take back all the bad things I've said about them.

 

[Jimdish255]

That call was well beyond bad. And I'm not certain that refs are told to put the fix in, but damn it certainly is suspicious at times. There was a blatant travel that they missed on UCLA as well when one of their players went sliding along the floor with a ball in their hand.

Also felt SMU player was fouled while shooting on previous posession. Referee comes on TV and attempts to rewrite the laws of gravity for our lying eyes.

 

[sammydabiz]

The chances are low that it was going to have a shot at going in, but it certainly would've hit the rim in some capacity, so you can interpret it as having the possibility of entering the basket just based solely on that - despite the probability being extremely low.

The probability isn't low, it's ZERO...... Under no circumstance would that ball of ever gone in. If you think otherwise, I'd advise you to take a physics class.

 

[ecasadoSBU]

Well if you think the FIX is in... I wonder if ya looked at the Harvard vs North Carolina game. That late foul was no foul. It clearly showed how digusting the NCAA has become. There was absolutely no FOUL there. Yet, they had to make one up because Harvard was about to win this . such bull

 

[nelsonmuntz]

So the conspiracy theories are ridiculous? SMU, Northeastern, Harvard and VCU all lost games in which there were some level of controversial call against the non-P5 team. Where are the games were controversial calls broke against the P5 team?

The BE teams seem to be in some kind of middle ground, because I thought the Texas/Butler and Xavier/Mississippi games were called fairly.

 

[Jimdish255]

The NCAA dude on TV took the angle that if it had a chance to hit the rim, it had a chance to go in, which seems a bit weak. The rules should state that.

He was acting as the fixer, but in attempting to protect the guy who made the mistake his obvious misdirection calls into question everyones credibility.

 

[David 76]

Who said: "the AAC with no championships"?
Shame on you!
I think the conspiracy would have stopped us last year.

 

[dtrumpet]

So the conspiracy theories are ridiculous? SMU, Northeastern, Harvard and VCU all lost games in which there were some level of controversial call against the non-P5 team. Where are the games were controversial calls broke against the P5 team?

The BE teams seem to be in some kind of middle ground, because I thought the Texas/Butler and Xavier/Mississippi games were called fairly.

Smu blew a 7 point lead on their own throwing the ball away. Harvard had the ball in their best player's hands shooting with a chance to win. Neither one of those things happen if there really is a "conspiracy".

 

[tzznandrew]

So the conspiracy theories are ridiculous? SMU, Northeastern, Harvard and VCU all lost games in which there were some level of controversial call against the non-P5 team. Where are the games were controversial calls broke against the P5 team?

The BE teams seem to be in some kind of middle ground, because I thought the Texas/Butler and Xavier/Mississippi games were called fairly.

Iowa State and Baylor both lost. Those were P5 schools losing to low majors, let along "mid-majors."

 

[ecasadoSBU]

Smu blew a 7 point lead on their own throwing the ball away. Harvard had the ball in their best player's hands shooting with a chance to win. Neither one of those things happen if there really is a "conspiracy".

Did you see a Foul? Oh c'mon. I'm not the one for conspiracy theories... But did you see the Foul? ANY Foul? We are talking about North Carolina here... about to lose to Harvard if that foul wasn't called. Harvard had the ball and they lose it on a "Foul" that was no foul. That's all you need to lose a game when its close. A bad call can throw you off. Can kill momentum. It was a terrible call at a crucial point of the game

Even worst. ESPN decided not to even report on it. jesussschrist

 

[Jimdish255]

I don't believe in the conspiracy theory, but a level of incompetence mixed with some subtle bias isn't out of the question if you look at who gets screwed down the stretch. Especially after the P5 cartel is getting destroyed in the early games.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Iowa State and Baylor both lost. Those were P5 schools losing to low majors, let along "mid-majors."

Iowa State was getting away with murder in their press.

Regardless, for their to be no conspiracy or at least bias, we should be seeing some games where the P5 school was the victim of multiple controversial calls. Where are those games?

 

[ecasadoSBU]

unbelievable. I just watched the entire highlights of that game again (H vs UNC) on TruTV. They didn't even bother to show the foul. Its like it never happened. They skipped it. They didn't address it. Nothing said about it. Wow... just woww

 

[tzznandrew]

Iowa State was getting away with murder in their press.

Regardless, for their to be no conspiracy or at least bias, we should be seeing some games where the P5 school was the victim of multiple controversial calls. Where are those games?

Wait: you are starting with the presupposition of a conspiracy. Then everything--or nothing--is evidence of that conspiracy.

I don't need to provide that evidence, and it's lack of existence does not prove your point.

 

[Jimdish255]

Right now I'm seeing a lot of contact when Wofford has the ball vs Arkansas and no calls, but the slightest contact on the other end draws a whistle.

Now they get away with throwing a sneaker on the court!

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Wait: you are starting with the presupposition of a conspiracy. Then everything--or nothing--is evidence of that conspiracy.

I don't need to provide that evidence, and it's lack of existence does not prove your point.

Actually, that is not how it works. I suggest you read the part of Freakonomics that covers Sumo Wrestling.

 

[upstater]

Well if you think the FIX is in... I wonder if ya looked at the Harvard vs North Carolina game. That late foul was no foul. It clearly showed how digusting the NCAA has become. There was absolutely no FOUL there. Yet, they had to make one up because Harvard was about to win this . such bull

That was certainly an attempt by the ref to save North Carolina. The fact is, though, the ball on that play was going out of bounds off Harvard anyway. UNC then missed the front end of a 1 and 1, and though I KNOW THE REF did it for UNC's sake, it didn't really help UNC in the end.

 

[upstater]

unbelievable. I just watched the entire highlights of that game again (H vs UNC) on TruTV. They didn't even bother to show the foul. Its like it never happened. They skipped it. They didn't address it. Nothing said about it. Wow... just woww

They showed the foul. They rewound it and the announcers said there was absolutely no foul. And there wasn't.

 

[UConnNick]

Goaltending is always a judgment call. It always has to be because the zebras are having to predict what might have happened with the ball if it were left unimpeded. In this case, they got the judgment part wrong, and it made the call wrong, but some folks are forgetting that SMU put themselves in a position where a last second shot or bad call could beat them. That's on them, and they had a big enough lead with very little time left that they can't complain about losing the game on a bad call. The bottom line is they didn't execute on offense or defense when they had a golden opportunity to put the game away for good. Let's also not forget that there was still plenty of time left for them to get off two more shots, either of which would have won the game if the shot went in.

 

[sammydabiz]

I'll contribute to the "conspiracy" thread:

Gtown full on punched a EWU guard in the chest...no flagrant 1 no flagrant 2, actually reviewed and no call at all!?!
In my opinion it was much worse than what Ellis (Cincy) did in their game, and he was ejected.

Not sure if this counts as conspiracy since Gtown is no P5, but they're definately the little man in this game

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I'll contribute to the "conspiracy" thread:

Gtown full on punched a EWU guard in the chest...no flagrant 1 no flagrant 2, actually reviewed and no call at all!?!
In my opinion it was much worse than what Ellis (Cincy) did in their game, and he was ejected.

Not sure if this counts as conspiracy since Gtown is no P5, but they're definately the little man in this game

With about 2 minutes left, an tOSU player elbowed a VCU player in the face, and they both got fouls. Elbow to the face is not one of those penalties that has a gray area, and it is reviewable. It should have been a Flagrant 1, 2 FT's and the ball, and at that point in the game, 2 FT's could have been decisive.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

The refs are calling fouls on Wofford if Arkansas so much as looks at the basket, while Arkansas is committing homicides when they are on defense and nothing is being called on that end.

Edit: Arkansas just grabbed a 3 pointer off the rim, no call.

 

[Jimdish255]

The refs are calling fouls on Wofford if Arkansas so much as looks at the basket, while Arkansas is committing homicides when they are on defense and nothing is being called on that end.

About 4 questionable calls have gone against Wofford down the stretch. Amazing how consistently this happens to the non-cartel teams. Earlier today that wasn't do much the case, but when the favorites started to go down I had a feeling things might change. It's just ingrained.

 

[tzznandrew]

The refs are calling fouls on Wofford if Arkansas so much as looks at the basket, while Arkansas is committing homicides when they are on defense and nothing is being called on that end.

That's not really what I've been seeing. I thought the fouls under 6 minutes (when I was watching) have made sense.

 

[3rdbass]

Wofford hedging on the outside was just weird on defense when Arkansas can't make an outside shot. Bad defense there. Oh well Arkansas sucks and lucked out there for sure!