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The Courant's Mike Anthony looks at the Huskies' past, present, and future.

I am guessing he was referring to 17, but is just a guess.

I'm going to second that guess.

You bring in two McD AAs, the #16, and the #19 (according to HG) players in the class and now we only have one (wo)man standing.

What could have developed into an absolutely killer class just fell short.
 
There are those who recognize there were recruiting misses and there are those who thinks this reveals a fault in recruiting, rather than the variables of an uncertain business that always occur. I don't see where this piece vindicates the latter, but rather condemns them. If you were thinking "Stevens staying only one year and missing out on other bigs hurts us," well, yes, Auriemma and Anthony agrees. This article vindicates you. Pat yourself on the back, though I suspect the great majority of BYers felt this. On the other hand, if you were thinking "Auriemma is flawed in his recruiting approach, the misses are his fault," this does not vindicate you at all. Don't pat yourself on the back.

As for eebmg's point about defense. I hear you and agree that's likely what goes through Auriemma's head. However, a legitimate center provides "defense" without really trying. An excellent thief causes the opposing offense to play better to compensate. An excellent thief is not going to turn the tide against the best offenses. However, an excellent shot-blocker forces the opposing offense to play differently than they would otherwise. I understand what lies behind Auriemma's reluctance in utilizing Stevens or ONO in those last quarter losses to Notre Dame. He could not trust them to play the defense he wanted. Yet I would suggest they still gave us a better defense to disrupt the opponent's offense over having better technical defenders in there. Even though players like G. Williams, Nurse and Collier might be considered the best technical defenders on the team and/or the country, they are not going to change what the opponents wants to do as much as a competent center.

Yet Auriemma has a program to run, pressures to perform and promises to keep for what he tells recruits how they must practice and what will happen if they come here. Most programs would consider losing the battle of a regular season game as acceptable, if it contributes to winning the war of a National Championship. It could be that we are beyond that as a program. Losing occasional championships are acceptable, if it contributes to a dynastic program that always goes to the Final Four and still wins championships when the stars align properly.
Huh? Uconn fans, at least those that have been fans for 10 to 30 years have lived through ups and downs, wins and losses. NC's and no Nc's and yes FF or no FF's. That's not new to long time fans. \
No need to lecture us on the wins and losses in recruiting that too has been with us a long time.
Each year I HOPE for an Elite 8, desire a FF, and envision an NC. None are a guarantee--that's why EVEN a Geno led team has to play it.
With Geno, no loss is acceptable. It is endured. Geno, as many Byer's hates to lose. Yet, even Geno knows a loss may happen--never to be liked but it happens.
Wining and losing the Geno way is done by the STARs if those stars include players like CW, ONO, Dangerfield, Walker, KLS, Napheesa, Gabby, Kia, Kiah, Stew--you get the idea. When THOSE STARs are aligned Uconn always wins.
 
What a wonderful and insightful article by Mike Anthony. Every visitor to the Boneyard especially the regulars should take a few moments to read this. Thanks much Sluconn. It puts things in proper perspective going forward.
Come on @Scoop you knew most of that. It was a good article but except the Steven thing, most of us suspected that. People of your know who, know what, know where; most likely knew or suspected most of what was in that piece. It may have just confirmed your thoughts. Never the less a nice find by Sluconn
 
I'm going to second that guess.

You bring in two McD AAs, the #16, and the #19 (according to HG) players in the class and now we only have one (wo)man standing.

What could have developed into an absolutely killer class just fell short.
Ya I still think if we had gotten Boston all would be good.
 

I've not been happy with the Courant's coverage lately, but at least this Courant reporter actually interviewed the coach and has some information for us that we haven't heard before.

Geno Auriemma... said, “I think we’re going to be OK.”... "I don't think we're going to be bad."

“People are already in a panic and my feeling was like, ‘Yo, we have three starters back from a team that won 35 games,” Auriemma said. “They’re not going to be worse. They say, ‘You’re not going to win a national championship.’ Well, we didn’t win one this year, either. So what are you trying to say? Unless we win a national championship we have a dog ass team?”
Geno obviously reads the wrong posters on the BY. Some of us have been saying these core 4 plus 1 could get to the Elite 8 and maybe beyond. Also Geno --said (paraphrasing) No we are not a bad team.
With fans as with all others only YOU can make YOU happy!!
 
Ya I still think if we had gotten Boston all would be good.

Maybe. Or she could have transferred out by Christmas. Or fallen on a patch of ice on her way to Werth, torn her ACL, and never quite recovered. Who knows?

The ifs and buts game is hard for players we never actually signed.

Just keep looking at who we have and who we could still get.
 
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While I believe Z and Geno had an understanding that she would play at UConn for 2 years after her redshirt year, it’s hard to say that her decision was not rational. She had earned her degree and was projected as a top 10 draft choice in the W.

As for Boston, that continues to be a head scratcher that I don’t think we will ever completely understand.
I cannot fault Z, and you didn't either, for making a choice to leave. She was playing out of her former "natural" position. She was a great scoring machine, but not so as a defender. I'm not sure a player of her caliber wants to be in perpetual "learning" mode. Yes, learning never ends but some want to feel more like a senior than a frosh. Obviously, you or I will never know what went through her brain at that time. I wished her luck then and now. In no way do I disrespect her choice.
Boston? I didn't count her a Uconn until she arrived--as I do most who are "shoe-ins" for Uconn. Too many guaranteed Uconn became ND's or Ms or Louisvilles or etc.
 
Maybe. Or she could have transferred out by Christmas. Or fallen on a patch of ice on her way to Werth, torn her ACL, and never quite recovered. Who knows?

The ifs and buts game is hard for players we never actually signed.

Just keep looking at who we have and who we could still get.
Yes you are right. Guess what I meant was all the complaints of poor recruiting or lack of recruiting bigs would be gone
 
Ya I still think if we had gotten Boston all would be good.

If we can get Hanna Gusters to come aboard in the fall of 2020, I’d be just as happy as if we had signed Boston. I thought we had Boston for sure, just like I assumed Stevens was coming back that next year. I was not a happy camper when Boston decided to go in another direction, or when Stevens left. :(
 
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Huh? Uconn fans, at least those that have been fans for 10 to 30 years have lived through ups and downs, wins and losses. NC's and no Nc's and yes FF or no FF's. That's not new to long time fans. \
No need to lecture us on the wins and losses in recruiting that too has been with us a long time.
Each year I HOPE for an Elite 8, desire a FF, and envision an NC. None are a guarantee--that's why EVEN a Geno led team has to play it.
With Geno, no loss is acceptable. It is endured. Geno, as many Byer's hates to lose. Yet, even Geno knows a loss may happen--never to be liked but it happens.
Wining and losing the Geno way is done by the STARs if those stars include players like CW, ONO, Dangerfield, Walker, KLS, Napheesa, Gabby, Kia, Kiah, Stew--you get the idea. When THOSE STARs are aligned Uconn always wins.
I believe if you read your post carefully, with some detachment, you will note the stern, "lecturing" quality of if. Now I don't usually get into discussions with a person who accuses others of doing what they themselves do, that generally leads to catastrophe, but my confusion gets the better of me. Since there is nothing in my post that refutes the statement you made, indeed most of it makes the same point, I am not sure what you are lecturing me about.
 
If we can get Hanna Gusters to come aboard in the fall of 2020, I’d be just as happy as if we had signed Boston. I thought we had Boston for sure, just like I assumed Stevens was coming back that next year. I was not a happy camper when Boston decided to go in another direction, or when Stevens left. :(
I think we might be just half way thru 20 recruiting. I think 21 could be great too. Who wouldn’t want to play with PB?
 
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I am guessing he was referring to 17, but is just a guess.

He could've added '16 to that as well, but he seems to think UConn was expecting Bent and Irwin to be back-of-the-bench types. Assuming that's even true, it left UConn with one legit contributor in Dangerfield. I doubt UConn wanted a class with one contributor.
 
Really enjoyed the article. Lots of great quotes etc. from the coach. One paragraph stood out to me:

Only Walker, who has developed nicely, stuck. Andra Espinoza-Hunter was shown the door and transferred to Mississippi State, where she has become a solid player (and maybe Auriemma would re-think that decision now, despite being so frustrated with her approach as a freshman). Lexi Gordon transferred to Texas Tech and just last week Mikayla Coombs announced she would transfer, too. Neither were difference makers.

His line - Espinosa-Hunter was "shown the door". Basically same thing that happened with Sadie Edwards (the guard Geno was caught on tape calling her "lazy" before she even got to Storrs). I basically said that in another thread (I said they were dismissed from the team), some posters felt my comments should't have been made. But it's the truth...

So here we have a respected writer saying basically the same thing, right after he interviews Geno. I get that sometimes people may wish that WCBB is all puppies and kitties, but it's not, and posters commenting that the coach wanted certain players out is not heresy.
 
If we can get Hanna Gusters to come aboard in the fall of 2020, I’d be just as happy as if we had signed Boston. I thought we had Boston for sure, just like I assumed Stevens was coming back that next year. I was not a happy camper when Boston decided to go in another direction, or when Stevens left. :(
No matter where she goes, I think Gusters is going to be a better player than Boston. Not impressed with Boston’s ability to run the floor and have doubts about her motor. Just MO.
 
Stevens leaving definitely hurt this past season, but helped this upcoming season (and the next). Walker and ONO would not have gotten the minutes they did. You can practice all you want, but until you get in real game situations, you don't get the feel of why you practice the things you do. That's why I'm frustrating when Geno does not play his bench even when he doesn't want to.
 
Stevens leaving definitely hurt this past season, but helped this upcoming season (and the next). Walker and ONO would not have gotten the minutes they did. You can practice all you want, but until you get in real game situations, you don't get the feel of why you practice the things you do. That's why I'm frustrating when Geno does not play his bench even when he doesn't want to.


Having Stevens would've prevented Collier from having to log nearly 34 minutes a game. In fact, if you reduced both Collier and KLS's minutes, you don't really effect Walker or ONO all that much, the latter of whom only played 14 per game anyway. Would Walker have been adversely affected by playing 25 minutes instead of 31?
 
I believe if you read your post carefully, with some detachment, you will note the stern, "lecturing" quality of if. Now I don't usually get into discussions with a person who accuses others of doing what they themselves do, that generally leads to catastrophe, but my confusion gets the better of me. Since there is nothing in my post that refutes the statement you made, indeed most of it makes the same point, I am not sure what you are lecturing me about.
Making a leap here. Lecturing, as most things, is in the mind of the beholder. If stating facts is lecturing then I was lecturing. I was stating the facts of following this team for decades with the wins, losses, recruits or no recruits, FF'or no FF's. We who followed them are seeing nothing new in not getting specific recruits. When you think Uconn is down, wait they tend to always surprise us.
 
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If Anthony uses the BY as his finger in the wind, on any given day he can be really right, really wrong, and off to the nut house.
You pounded that nail on the head.

Also makes me think of my workplace. . . .
 
You pounded that nail on the head.

Also makes me think of my workplace. . . .
I didn't pound that nail with my head--that's my normal--HUh what did he say? I worked in a lot of psychiatric hospitals, or was committed--one never knows which.
 
Like the year before, Geno and especially the fans questioning his substitution decisions. If he leaves Ono in the game, is the outcome different? I think this years experienced ND team was better then this years UConn team, despite the early season win. ND had player(s) that can score points in crunch time. Fans had similar questions on why he didn't play Z more down the stretch the year prior. Both decisions seemed to change the outcome of both games. For last years team, I do believe if Geno plays Z more in the 4th quarter, UConn wins that game and ultimately the National Championship.
Like you and others, I believe that UConn should have won the '18 semifinal. When Z came in in the 1st half, UConn outscored ND 30-17 for the rest of the half. I think she had 10 points and 7 rebounds. It was not the 4th quarter that Geno didn't play her, but the third, until there was 3:30 to go in the quarter. She scored 7 points in those remaining few minutes. She played the 4th quarter, but only 2 minutes in the OT. I really think that all was a factor in her not returning. Like Geno said, can't blame her, but not for the same reason that Geno thought.
 
This was needed and Mikee and Geno has given us great information and perspective. I'm reading the article and this "little" diddy started running as background music:


Thank you for sharing. Wasn’t familiar with the artist or song - both are incredible!
 
Thanks. You're right, most long time fans were already aware of what was contained/mentioned in his piece. We get a lot of posts here from fans with varying degrees/amounts of WCBB knowledge and UConn WBB knowledge. We're getting new "converts" everyday. Some of them complain about thus and so, without knowing some of the underlying facts or dynamics about subject their complaint/concern.

For example - Look at the comments concerning UConn's recruiting the last 3 years. We ALL see the result, but some don't really understand the why or the how. Recruiting is an art of which the dynamics are constantly changing. You can't use the tactics or philosophy you used 10 years ago, or even 5 years ago.

The "elite" 18 year olds today don't think or perceive college basketball like they did 5-10 years ago. The game has changed, and you had better change with it, or get run over and "scooped" on coveted recruits by over zealous/aggressive coaches. Look at how Duke's men's basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski had to adjust to the "one-and-done" concept that has recently become pervasive in men's college basketball. He didn't like it, but he had to adapt if he wanted to remain competitive.

If you really consider yourself a WCBB fan, and especially a UConn WBB fan, you've got to spend some time here in the yard to expose yourself to information about this program that you will not find anywhere else. Listen and watch every radio and TV show that Geno is on If you want to know what and how he thinks. He'll tell you if you watch and listen.

That's why some of the older fans here know his tendencies and his thinking. They've been watching and listening to him for years. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. We have some posters here that are closely connected to the program. I can tell by what they write, and the vantage point of those comments. No names here, but they've posted comments that was not common knowledge. I haven't been keeping track, but most of them are batting 1.000. How they know, I don't know, but they know. If you're here long enough, you'll figure out who they are.

Everything I know and have learned about UConn WBB, I've learned in the yard. I'm here everyday. Those of us out here on the west coast get ZERO news/information about teams on the east coast. We've got 9 professional and major college teams here that get all of the media's attention and loyalty.

I don't do any other social media. I'm not addicted to facebook , twitter or instagram. I see poor souls everyday driving in their cars with the wheel in one hand, and their cell phone in the other (they can't put their phone down for a moment) reading and responding to text messages. You see it too. When you're at a stoplight, the odds are better than 50-50 the person in the car next to you will be looking down at their cell phone. SMH. :oops:My biggest fear is....... having one of them run in to me because they were paying more attention to their cell phone, than where they were going.

Sometimes I like to read articles like this one that reminds to stay far enough back from the action so that I can see the entire forest, and not just the few trees that may be obscuring my view. :)
Wow, again a home run. Lots to digest. Geno is ALMOST a constant. But he changes and modifies how he thinks what he does. I get a kick out of those who says OF ANYONE they changed their mind or process. Intelligent people CHANGE. So does Geno. Geno won't take transfers has been has been reported. No he doesn't until he needs them. Geno will never ever ever play the Vols--until it suits him. Geno is human. Geno shoots from the lip. His every word is NOT to be written in stone. He has modified his methods of handling recruits over the years, he's still tough but not AS tough. Too often long time fans get raked over the hot coals for stating the truths about Geno. If you listen to Geno over the years you will hear his views on many subjects and many times with opposite views. He's not a puppet or robot or clone, he has faults and foibles as all do. His ever decision is not perfection, but obviously better than his peers. Luckily he has surrounded himself with great women, stating with Kathy and Chris Dailey.
I have read and followed Geno before 1995 all the time on CPTV--called into his program often. Attended all the early games on Campus and at the "Civic Center" until I found a less taxy state. Read every word he spoke in the Courant. Participated in the Uconn blogs in the Courant until they got too nasty. And listened to his first and others Connecticut Capital Steps words---I still cringe when I recall his telling a huge crowd--we'll be back here next year, he and they weren't. He gets caught up in the moment as many of us do.
Again @Scoop, and @Tonyc good words good thought well expressed, thanks.
 
I cannot fault Z, and you didn't either, for making a choice to leave. She was playing out of her former "natural" position. She was a great scoring machine, but not so as a defender. I'm not sure a player of her caliber wants to be in perpetual "learning" mode. Yes, learning never ends but some want to feel more like a senior than a frosh. Obviously, you or I will never know what went through her brain at that time. I wished her luck then and now. In no way do I disrespect her choice.
Boston? I didn't count her a Uconn until she arrived--as I do most who are "shoe-ins" for Uconn. Too many guaranteed Uconn became ND's or Ms or Louisvilles or etc.

I certainly don't blame AZ for leaving but I do think if she was seriously considering going pro she might have given Geno a head's up which apparently she never did........
 
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Like you and others, I believe that UConn should have won the '18 semifinal. When Z came in in the 1st half, UConn outscored ND 30-17 for the rest of the half. I think she had 10 points and 7 rebounds. It was not the 4th quarter that Geno didn't play her, but the third, until there was 3:30 to go in the quarter. She scored 7 points in those remaining few minutes. She played the 4th quarter, but only 2 minutes in the OT. I really think that all was a factor in her not returning. Like Geno said, can't blame her, but not for the same reason that Geno thought.
But again, who in their right mind would change the starting lineup of a team that had went the season undefeated and was up by 7 at half time???? One would have to be an idiot to do that.
 
Having Stevens would've prevented Collier from having to log nearly 34 minutes a game. In fact, if you reduced both Collier and KLS's minutes, you don't really effect Walker or ONO all that much, the latter of whom only played 14 per game anyway. Would Walker have been adversely affected by playing 25 minutes instead of 31?
Would also have allowed Collier to play small forward instead for forcing her to guard someone 2-4" taller and 20+ lbs heavier. She did ok but would have been even more dominate.
 
But again, who in their right mind would change the starting lineup of a team that had went the season undefeated and was up by 7 at half time???? One would have to be an idiot to do that.
because the starting lineup fell way behind in the first half; then Z came in. maybe not start her, but then keep her out that long? I don't think so, and I don't think she did either.
 
because the starting lineup fell way behind in the first half; then Z came in. maybe not start her, but then keep her out that long? I don't think so, and I don't think she did either.
I could see bringing her in earlier. But anyone who changed that starting lineup should be fired immediately.
 
I could see bringing her in earlier. But anyone who changed that starting lineup should be fired immediately.
yes, she should have been in earlier( it's called going with the hot hand). she easily could have made the difference. then she only played 2 minutes in the OT. all head scratching.
 
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