The Carolina Way

[uconnell]

Just been reading the NCSU Scout board (don't ask I don't do links) and I was shocked by how far back in time this cheating scandal goes. The SCAS , stopped looking after 1997. I am waiting for some true punishment, but not with baited breath. Seems as though the NCAA passed on doing anything and as one NCSU poster said "UCONN should be screaming to the high heavens about the punishment they received for playing it straight".

What I don't understand is why the BIG was so hot after Carolina, with all their problems and also the rest of the college sports world and ESPN either doesn't know about or cares about UNC cheaters.

I remember playing a fb game down there when the lights went out, for what seems like a long period of time, don't recall if we winning at that time or whether we lost the game. Does any one recall?

 

[Fishy]

It's bated breath.

Baited breath means you've been cramming nightcrawlers in your mouth again.

But bated or baited, there's no point in waiting - there'll be no NCAA fallout for them. Honestly, we just should have cheated - I can only imagine how many schools juice their grades. (Get it? Juice? Orange? Syracuse? No?)

 

[intlzncster]

The NCAA has ignored a bunch of huge deals at both Carolina and Duke. Those are the NCAA flagship programs, essentially untouchable.

UConn is still the new kid on the block, and was built by a notoriously prickly coach, who wasn't afraid to ruffle any feathers.

 

[intlzncster]

It's bated breath.

Baited breath means you've been cramming nightcrawlers in your mouth again.

But bated or baited, there's no point in waiting - there'll be no NCAA fallout for them. Honestly, we just should have cheated - I can only imagine how many schools juice their grades. (Get it? Juice? Orange? Syracuse? No?)

Terrible joke Fishy, even with the reverse sarcasm thing you got going on there. Hey, when you usually deliver comedic gold, you're held to a higher standard. You must have been bored.

That said, I actually think we should have 'cheated'. I don't believe in it, but when all other schools are doing this, and the rule book is being applied as is, you've got to adjust. UConn shot themselves in the foot with this one. I like to think we can take it, but it was kind of unnecessary.

It's the old poker maxim: if you look around the room and can't spot the sucka....it's probably you.

 

[Fishy]

There's just no way that every school is playing it straight - no way.

It reminds me of the time the NCAA offered 'amnesty' to any prep player who had received tuition assistance. Three players in the entire country came forward, including Caron Butler. (Maine Central, unlike every other prep, didn't care who you were or how good you were - you paid your bill.) Those players took the suspensions and the press hit.

Everyone else simply ignored it.

 

[intlzncster]

I know the UK hate goes overboard on here, but I can't stop thinking of the DeMarcus Cousins and Eric Bledsoe example.

I'm pretty certain neither of those kids saw the inside of a classroom during their respective year at UK. And if, by some long shot, they did, they sure as hell were fast asleep. There were certainly no books cracked on their part.

[edit: and that's not even mentioning Bledsoe's mysterious 'passing grade' in high school math (I want to say Calc, but that can't be right)]

 

[upstater]

There's just no way that every school is playing it straight - no way.

And this is precisely why they come up with that phony APR thing.

 

[uconnfan68]

Just been reading the NCSU Scout board (don't ask I don't do links) and I was shocked by how far back in time this cheating scandal goes. The SCAS , stopped looking after 1997. I am waiting for some true punishment, but not with baited breath. Seems as though the NCAA passed on doing anything and as one NCSU poster said "UCONN should be screaming to the high heavens about the punishment they received for playing it straight".

What I don't understand is why the BIG was so hot after Carolina, with all their problems and also the rest of the college sports world and ESPN either doesn't know about or cares about UNC cheaters.

I remember playing a fb game down there when the lights went out, for what seems like a long period of time, don't recall if we winning at that time or whether we lost the game. Does any one recall?

The new president of ESPN is a UNC grad. Does that answer your concerns?

 

[uconnell]

^^^^^^^^ pretty much!

 

[UConn5]

I'm pretty sure an article was written about the message that not punishing UNC sends to UConn. It was something along the lines of...you can avoid APR problems and NCAA tournament sanctions if you just lie about kids attending class and just give them credit, but if you're honest about the kids leaving school or about their lack of attendance and it causes them to fail the you're not allowed in the NCAA tournament. At this point I just look at it as one of those situations where the NCAA was just going to keep coming and coming after UConn post-Nate Miles until they imposed some punishment that they perceived actually hurt the program.

It's been done and now they can move on.

 

[mauconnfan]

The new president of ESPN is a UNC grad. Does that answer your concerns?

......and they sent an ex-UNC football player to do the initial investigation in representing the NCAA.........

 

[progrocks]

I know the UK hate goes overboard on here, but I can't stop thinking of the DeMarcus Cousins and Eric Bledsoe example.

I'm pretty certain neither of those kids saw the inside of a classroom during their respective year at UK. And if, by some long shot, they did, they sure as hell were fast asleep. There were certainly no books cracked on their part.

[edit: and that's not even mentioning Bledsoe's mysterious 'passing grade' in high school math (I want to say Calc, but that can't be right)]

Listening to him speak, I think the last time Bledsoe saw the inside of a classroom was 3rd grade.

 

[Husky25]

I'm pretty sure an article was written about the message that not punishing UNC sends to UConn. It was something along the lines of...you can avoid APR problems and NCAA tournament sanctions if you just lie about kids attending class and just give them credit, but if you're honest about the kids leaving school or about their lack of attendance and it causes them to fail the you're not allowed in the NCAA tournament. At this point I just look at it as one of those situations where the NCAA was just going to keep coming and coming after UConn post-Nate Miles until they imposed some punishment that they perceived actually hurt the program.

It's been done and now they can move on.

The unforeseen National Championship run in 2011 did nothing to help UConn either.

 

[intlzncster]

I'm pretty sure an article was written about the message that not punishing UNC sends to UConn. It was something along the lines of...you can avoid APR problems and NCAA tournament sanctions if you just lie about kids attending class and just give them credit, but if you're honest about the kids leaving school or about their lack of attendance and it causes them to fail the you're not allowed in the NCAA tournament.

Uconn5, do you have a link for this? I'd love to read it. Was it a hoard article or a national one?