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UcannUconn said:
We’re not on the bubble guys. We’re in 7th in the American and struggle on the road.
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The first year in AAC I think we were 7th or 8th in the league too.
Don't remember how that season ended. Didn’t we get into tourney?
 
uconngb said:
This is the truth. We can all try and be objective
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Humans do not have the capacity for objectivity - we select data to confirm our beliefs. And I believe we are in the conversation. If we dominate Tulane and have a strong showing in the AAC tournament, we will get the benefit of the doubt. Everyone loves a Cinderella, and we are writing that story.
 
If Sunday were a game at Wichita St. or home against SMU (thinking of teams we only played once), it would be more meaningful in terms of playing our way on the bubble. Unfortunately the NCAA does not use KenPom, so please throw that away, and we are something like 2-6 against quad 2.

I guess we'll have to just win the whole bleeping thing.
 
Caronimo said:
If Sunday were a game at Wichita St. or home against SMU (thinking of teams we only played once), it would be more meaningful in terms of playing our way on the bubble. Unfortunately the NCAA does not use KenPom, so please throw that away, and we are something like 2-6 against quad 2.

I guess we'll have to just win the whole bleeping thing.
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This is not true, they use KenPom
 
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Caronimo said:
How the field of 68 teams is picked for March Madness | NCAA.com where?
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This is the sheet the committee gets for every team, KenPom is listed between BPI and SAG in the middle of the top row

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auror said:
if we didn't have that St. Joe's loss we might be. It's so bad.

I will say, it's super arbitrary, but Florida/Tulsa bumping up into Q1 does make a huge difference in the resume.
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Correct answer. That loss looked bad when it happened, but St. Joe's completely fell apart, and it looks just hideous now.

Of course, the protected teams would get credit for a player like Bouknight not being available for that game, but we won't.
 
pepband99 said:
Correct answer. That loss looked bad when it happened, but St. Joe's completely fell apart, and it looks just hideous now.

Of course, the protected teams would get credit for a player like Bouknight not being available for that game, but we won't.
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No one would get protected for losing to St. Joe's. That loss is brutal.

UConn has to keep winning. There are probably 20 teams on the Bubble that are 1 bad loss or 2 good ones from being off of it and out of the tournament. Let's where where everything is on Sunday, and root for every 25+ win small conference school to win their tournament in the meantime.
 
Taking the UCONN googles off for a sec. I don't think the NCAA takes more than two AAC teams, 3 is the absolute max-UCONN is 6th in the conference.

The AAC conference stinks, read the feedback everyone hates being in it because the lack of talent. UCONN needs to win the conference to get in. We're getting better but it's not our time unless they win the conf championship. On the bright side, because the conference stinks they could win this and get the at large..
 
MervthePurvis said:
Semis get us in I think. But let me pose this question. Would you rather get into the dance and possibly leave early or win the NIT? The question is about development. I know what most would say but hardware is important too.
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People keep equating making the NIT with winning the NIT. There are good teams there, too.
You want the NCAAs every time
 
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We wont be dancing with the big boys this year unless we can at least get to next Sunday
 
In my latest update I have UConn #60 overall. Which is up 11 spots from earlier this week. My last at large team is #47. So I have them 13th out. Maybe still a prayer, but they'd need to face three good teams and win two (obviously if they beat all three good teams they'd win the auto-bid.) Even then that is probably not enough since it won't happen in a vacuum. For reference here's how I have teams rated (AAC/Big East):

#7 Seton Hall
#8 Villanova
#11 Creighton
#16 Butler
#26 Houston
#28 Marquette
#38 Wichita State
#39 Xavier
#40 Cincinnati
#43 Providence
#51 Memphis
#60 Connecticut
#63 Tulsa

Everyone else is irrelevant.
 
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And, to counter his silly KenPom post:

14. Houston
16. Creighton
18. Seton Hall
19. Villanova
26. Butler
29. Marquette
42. Wichita State
43. Cincy
44. Xavier
47. Providence
49. UConn
60. Memphis
64. Georgetown
73. St. John's
74. Tulsa
89. DePaul
90. SMU
118. Temple
124. USF
126. UCF
189. Tulane
209. East Carolina
 
Palatine said:
That is NOT Ken Pom. Good try.
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Oh, you mean posting the main metric that the NCAA uses was irrelevant to which conference was better? Or the fact that I was compiling a list that shows that, by KenPom, 6 AAC teams are worse than the worst BE team--two are twice as bad--and, after Houston (who KenPom does have as higher than the highest BE team, though I'm skeptical, whatever) it takes 5 BE schools before you get to the next AAC school. And the team leading the AAC has a worse KenPom score than every single BE school but DePaul.
 
I don't understand the "either, or" nature of this discussion. It is not the case that the AAC has to be either as good as the Big East or the worst conference in the history of basketball. It is allowed to be what it is -- year in and year out the 7th best conference in the country, which normally is closer to the bottom of the Big 6 than the best of everyone else.
 
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tzznandrew said:
Oh, you mean posting the main metric that the NCAA uses was irrelevant to which conference was better? Or the fact that I was compiling a list that shows that, by KenPom, 6 AAC teams are worse than the worst BE team--two are twice as bad--and, after Houston (who KenPom does have as higher than the highest BE team, though I'm skeptical, whatever) it takes 5 BE schools before you get to the next AAC school. And the team leading the AAC has a worse KenPom score than every single BE school but DePaul.
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Let's see Seton Hall's record with our travel schedule. Travel in the BE is equivalent to Syracuse's December schedule. It's still a Providence centric conference that was created to protect the Friar basketball program. It's HQ is still in Rhode Island. I don't give a darn about the ZBE. It's a worse baseball, soccer, non football league with good basketball that we helped create. Hurray for Crate and Barrel.
 
If we win all the way the finals, were definitely on the bubble, and deserve to be in if that happens.
 
Slasher said:
In my latest update I have UConn #60 overall. Which is up 11 spots from earlier this week. My last at large team is #47. So I have them 13th out. Maybe still a prayer, but they'd need to face three good teams and win two (obviously if they beat all three good teams they'd win the auto-bid.) Even then that is probably not enough since it won't happen in a vacuum. For reference here's how I have teams rated (AAC/Big East):

#7 Seton Hall
#8 Villanova
#11 Creighton
#16 Butler
#26 Houston
#28 Marquette
#38 Wichita State
#39 Xavier
#40 Cincinnati
#43 Providence
#51 Memphis
#60 Connecticut
#63 Tulsa

Everyone else is irrelevant.
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Memphis is one spot ahead of us in NET, 9 spots behind us in BPI, and 11 spots behind us in kenpom
Yet you have us 9 spots behind them in your system
Can you explain?
 
Dooooooomed said:
Our NET only went up 2 spots to #61 after beating the #20 NET Houston. We'll actually have a bigger jump by beating #171 NET Tulane because it's on the road. This metric is super wonky.
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right hopefully blowing out tulane by 20 will get us up to 57-59 which is comparable to the Next 4 Out group going into the conference tourney. here are the NETs as of today for lunardi's bubble teams:

Last 4 in
Arizona State- 53
Xavier- 42
Indiana- 52
Cincinnati- 49
First 4 Out
Utah State- 38
Richmond- 44
NC State- 59
Wichita State- 48
Next 4 Out
Purdue- 32
Memphis- 60
South Carolina- 63
Arkansas- 43
 
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