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The Big East needs to invite Gonzaga, Stanford, and Cal

WestCoastHusky said:
The other option is sit around doing nothing like the old Big East while every other conference grab anything that's valuable on the board.

Big East might as well annouce we will die slowly if that's the case.
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Sometimes doing nothing is the smart move.
 
John said:
Sometimes doing nothing is the smart move.
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when in doubt do nothing
measure twice, cut once
patience
luck is opportunity meeting preparation
be prepared
 
JohnFSilver said:
Big East is so damn slow, again, to move. Should grab Gonzaga right now. Hell, take St Mary’s too.

If acc can have Stanford /call, big east can have Gonzaga, st mary
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The Big East should be talking to Gonzaga and the Pac 2. I believe that the Pac 2 will survive and reconstitute. It could merge with the Big East and make a Gonzaga addition more feasible. If the Pac 2 are serious about competing as a 2 team conference next year, they have plenty of room for UConn football. If they somehow manage to keep their P5 designation, it could be the opportunity that UConn football really needs right now. The Big East going into talks with Fox with Gonzaga and two west coast P5 schools would be in a much stronger position. Football would not need to be included in the media deal. UConn has our own deal, CBS Sports will be losing Army so I'm sure they wouldn't mind picking up WSU and OSU.
 
HartbeatHusky said:
The Big East should be talking to Gonzaga and the Pac 2. I believe that the Pac 2 will survive and reconstitute. It could merge with the Big East and make a Gonzaga addition more feasible. If the Pac 2 are serious about competing as a 2 team conference next year, they have plenty of room for UConn football. If they somehow manage to keep their P5 designation, it could be the opportunity that UConn football really needs right now. The Big East going into talks with Fox with Gonzaga and two west coast P5 schools would be in a much stronger position. Football would not need to be included in the media deal. UConn has our own deal, CBS Sports will be losing Army so I'm sure they wouldn't mind picking up WSU and OSU.
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UConn and UMass should be in their ear constantly about a short term 4 team PAC football conference if WSU and OSU are serious about going down that path.
 
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JohnFSilver said:
First of all, it isn’t. Big 12 is. Big 10 probably second.

Big east needs to protect itself and has to increase its footprint and revenue.
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First of all it is.. won the championship last year..check it out
 
JohnFSilver said:
First of all, it isn’t. Big 12 is. Big 10 probably second.

Big east needs to protect itself and has to increase its footprint and revenue.
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Perhaps mathematically because G'town and DePaul have been so dreadful. But those big conferences don't care about basketball so the point is moot. To be fair, the once proud ACC has been saddled with L'ville, ND, bcu, and cuse.

I do believe that the Big East is in a very precarious position. It needs to expand but there are no ideal candidates. If just 1 or 2 of its top brands get poached, it will be crippling. UConn is expected, but if Nova or SJU leave, big trouble.
 
Kolumbo said:
Perhaps mathematically because G'town and DePaul have been so dreadful. But those big conferences don't care about basketball so the point is moot. To be fair, the once proud ACC has been saddled with L'ville, ND, bcu, and cuse.

I do believe that the Big East is in a very precarious position. It needs to expand but there are no ideal candidates. If just 1 or 2 of its top brands get poached, it will be crippling. UConn is expected, but if Nova or SJU leave, big trouble.
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If the big east gets a decent tv deal nobody is leaving..if they don’t and the money the big 12 can pay can make up the travel costs… then maybe uconn would leave… but no way the big 12 is going to let uconn in with a full share with all sports… uconn football doesn’t bring any value.. it actually hurts the league
 
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Beachview said:
If the big east gets a decent tv deal nobody is leaving..if they don’t and the money the big 12 can pay can make up the travel costs… then maybe uconn would leave… but no way the big 12 is going to let uconn in with a full share with all sports… uconn football doesn’t bring any value.. it actually hurts the league
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UConn is going to have to leave with any kind of deal if the Big East doesn't do something to solidify itself. UConn can't be stuck in a Big East situation where 1 or more other programs decide to split.
 
CL82 said:
How so?
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I don’t think having one of the worst football teams in America helps the conference.. without basketball we would have trouble getting into a g5 league
 
Beachview said:
If the big east gets a decent tv deal nobody is leaving..if they don’t and the money the big 12 can pay can make up the travel costs… then maybe uconn would leave… but no way the big 12 is going to let uconn in with a full share with all sports… uconn football doesn’t bring any value.. it actually hurts the league
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Then UConn doenst go in with a full share. The full share thing is over. Smu/cal/Stanford insured UConn will never get a full share anywhere.

UConn needs to just do better than what it is doing. Even if it got a zero share, it probably does better being in big 12.
 
Kolumbo said:
UConn is going to have to leave with any kind of deal if the Big East doesn't do something to solidify itself. UConn can't be stuck in a Big East situation where 1 or more other programs decide to split.
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Who would split from the Big East? There's no place for them to go. No P# school wants any Big East school that doesn't play FBS football.
 
JohnFSilver said:
Then UConn doenst go in with a full share. The full share thing is over. Smu/cal/Stanford insured UConn will never get a full share anywhere.

UConn needs to just do better than what it is doing. Even if it got a zero share, it probably does better being in big 12.
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I believe getting a share of college football playoff money is worth about 15 million per year per team alone. So even joining the big 12 at a zero media distribution share would result in our tripling our conference revenues give or take.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Who would split from the Big East? There's no place for them to go. No P# school wants any Big East school that doesn't play FBS football.
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Meanwhile the Big 12 is still talking to Gonzaga. We don't know anything with any certainty when it comes to CR. Big East programs could end up in the ACC for all we know. Imagine a Georgetown/Navy or SJU/Nova/Army move. That would be another kick to the crotch.
 
Kolumbo said:
Meanwhile the Big 12 is still talking to Gonzaga. We don't know anything with any certainty when it comes to CR. Big East programs could end up in the ACC for all we know. Imagine a Georgetown/Navy or SJU/Nova/Army move. That would be another kick to the crotch.
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if Gonzaga goes to a P4, then hold on to your nads because the Big East is about to get picked apart.
 
Kolumbo said:
UConn is going to have to leave with any kind of deal if the Big East doesn't do something to solidify itself. UConn can't be stuck in a Big East situation where 1 or more other programs decide to split.
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What does this even mean? How are they not solidified. They're unique, they only play basketball and they're damn good at it.
 
John said:
if Gonzaga goes to a P4, then hold on to your nads because the Big East is about to get picked apart.
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Why do you say this? The report was Big XII would pay them maybe as much as $2m. The Big XII isn't going to pay more than the Big East for a non football school.
 
CL82 said:
You do realize that Connecticut football isn't a part of the big east conference, right?
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I know that… what I said is uconn doesn’t bring any value to the big12 football wise… i have no idea what made you think i said uconn is in the big east for football
 
Beachview said:
I know that… what I said is uconn doesn’t bring any value to the big12 football wise… i have no idea what made you think i said uconn is in the big east for football
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Ah got it. That wasn't clear to me when I read your original post.
 
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superjohn said:
What does this even mean? How are they not solidified. They're unique, they only play basketball and they're damn good at it.
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Well, it's not exactly unique. A-10, West Coast, they only play basketball, granted, not as good as the Big East. And one could argue that being unique is a liability because it's an old model which may not work any longer.

The Big East had 6 programs ranked over 100 rpi, including Nova. Take away the top 2 programs any given year and it purees. If the Big conferences can pay programs $100 million a year, they can afford to pay a basketball program a fraction of that which is still more than what the Big East pays.
 
Kolumbo said:
If the Big conferences can pay programs $100 million a year, they can afford to pay a basketball program a fraction of that which is still more than what the Big East pays.
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Which, at this point, I would gratefully accept.
 
Kolumbo said:
Well, it's not exactly unique. A-10, West Coast, they only play basketball, granted, not as good as the Big East. And one could argue that being unique is a liability because it's an old model which may not work any longer.

The Big East had 6 programs ranked over 100 rpi, including Nova. Take away the top 2 programs any given year and it purees. If the Big conferences can pay programs $100 million a year, they can afford to pay a basketball program a fraction of that which is still more than what the Big East pays.
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That doesn't answer the question. How are they not solidified?

Yep, take away the programs from the conference who win national championships and they're not as good. No shart.
 
Kolumbo said:
Well, it's not exactly unique. A-10, West Coast, they only play basketball, granted, not as good as the Big East. And one could argue that being unique is a liability because it's an old model which may not work any longer.

The Big East had 6 programs ranked over 100 rpi, including Nova. Take away the top 2 programs any given year and it purees. If the Big conferences can pay programs $100 million a year, they can afford to pay a basketball program a fraction of that which is still more than what the Big East pays.
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They aren't going to though. They don't really want or need those schools. The only appeal is that they might get them below value. Gonzaga gets singled out because they are probably a good deal at $2m and make less than that now. Paying more than the Big East pays? Unlikely.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Why do you say this? The report was Big XII would pay them maybe as much as $2m. The Big XII isn't going to pay more than the Big East for a non football school.
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WSU makes 2million in the AAC I believe the Big East BB rejected that number 15 years ago , so that number seems pretty small
 
AZHuskiePop said:
WSU makes 2million in the AAC I believe the Big East BB rejected that number 15 years ago , so that number seems pretty small
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It is small. It's also about what the Big XII reportedly offered Gonzaga. That's the point. Gonzaga is worth more than they make now, so yeah, maybe a conference will try to get them at a bargain rate. There's no larger desire to recreate the Notre Dame deal for anyone.
 
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