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I don't think Boyle has to be worse than Whitmer for Diaco choosing to sit him at the beginning of the year. IMO, even if he just equal to or a little bit better, Diaco still sits him to keep the red shirt and have a better line of QBs for the future years. If Diaco think that Boyle being better than Whitmer might win him an extra game, he still sits him. The move was purely strategic for future years so we always had a few QBs in line.
 
I really don't know what we will see when Boyle is inserted into or starts a game. I hope all of his skills have improved including his reads and decision-making. This is not a great team to be "thrown into the fire" because we have so many problems on offense. Even very skilled QB's might have problems given that the running game is not productive and our WR's are dropping passes. I think the coaches are going to try to ease him into this as much as they can to avoid having a situation like last year reoccur and have him lose all confidence altogether. It's really important that we try to support the team and cheer for whoever is in there without getting into who is better than who. Maybe each player will be more effective against certain teams. The coaches will play the player who is "more ready" now that the red-shirt has to be burned. That doesn't mean that Boyle won't eventually get more minutes as the season goes on or even that he might not start. But right now they have to be careful with the extremely limited QB resources we have! It's hard to believe we are again in this situation after all the off season months of having "so many" QB's even after Lagow left. If we don't fix the protection, we won't have any QB's available to take the snaps and we'll have to use the wildcat! Ugh!
 
Only if you guys agree wedon't need to start multiple threads everyday on a topic already beaten to death (by myself and others).
 
UconnFan33 said:
Would you guys agree that defending Boyle isn't nearly as ridiculous as defending Whitmer...seriously
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No, I strongly disagree. If Boyle was more likely to lead us to a win this Saturday than Whitmer, the coaches would be starting him. Are the coaches infallable? Of course not. But is the smart money on them or someone who doesn't see practices and admits that he knows Boyle?
 
I guarantee Boyle will play better than he did last year, because he couldn't play any worse. So there's that. I don't know if he'll play better than Whitmer. I didn't see anything to convince me he will. For the team's sake, I hope he does. I'll support him too.

I just want to win.
 
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ScottBonz said:
I don't think Boyle has to be worse than Whitmer for Diaco choosing to sit him at the beginning of the year. IMO, even if he just equal to or a little bit better, Diaco still sits him to keep the red shirt and have a better line of QBs for the future years. If Diaco think that Boyle being better than Whitmer might win him an extra game, he still sits him. The move was purely strategic for future years so we always had a few QBs in line.
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^^^^^This. I think Cochran was the starter. Whitmer adds mobility and was the backup. Boyle, he's the future franchise QB, and I think Diaco knows he has challenges winning this year, and wants an extra year of Boyle. But now the Red Shirt has to come off and I will not be surprised at all if Boyle is the better quarterback right now.
 
businesslawyer said:
No, I strongly disagree. If Boyle was more likely to lead us to a win this Saturday than Whitmer, the coaches would be starting him. Are the coaches infallable? Of course not. But is the smart money on them or someone who doesn't see practices and admits that he knows Boyle?
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This is far too rational for the Boneyard biz.
 
If Boyle is the better QB right now he should start. I believe the fact he isn't starting means he isn't the better QB right now. He could be by the end of the year. Both of them can improve within the year. Hopefully they both do.
 
The right thing to do is to ease the transition to TB. The rough stretch last year will help Boyle when he is sent out there this year. It was a tough experience but he got 4 starts and was strong enough to still be standing and ready to give it another shot. Chandler should start against Boise.
 
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WingU-Conn said:
If Boyle is the better QB right now he should start. I believe the fact he isn't starting means he isn't the better QB right now. He could be by the end of the year. Both of them can improve within the year. Hopefully they both do.
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Can't argue with most of this. But I don't think a 5th year senior has much room for improvement. I also take to heart the words of the coaches which suggest that Boyle is physically the better QB (including Cochran) but that he lacks experience and struggles in the mental aspects of the game at this level. It is therefore my hope and belief that it will click for him...and when it does, he'll be the better QB. That could happen Saturday, it could happen in November.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Can't argue with most of this. But I don't think a 5th year senior has much room for improvement. I also take to heart the words of the coaches which suggest that Boyle is physically the better QB (including Cochran) but that he lacks experience and struggles in the mental aspects of the game at this level. It is therefore my hope and belief that it will click for him...and when it does, he'll be the better QB. That could happen Saturday, it could happen in November.
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A 5th year senior playing for his 5th Offensive Coordinator.

Players can and do improve on different schedules typically related to better coaching.

If 5th year seniors didn't have much room for improvement, the NFL wouldn't be so popular.
 
UconnFan33 said:
Far from Mrs Boyle...do I know the kid...yes. Do I think hes better then Whitmer...yes. Would I go out on a limb and say he will be the best QB in the American next year...yes. My overall point is this...he wasn't red shirted based on ability...there were factors such as future depth...learning curve..etc. But now all that is out the Window meaning if hes gonna burn the shirt...might as well give him the reigns and start getting some continuity in the offense.
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If the decision to RS Boyle this year was done with the knowledge and opinion that he gave us the best chance to win on Saturdays then I'd want Diaco fired tomorrow.
 
HuskyHawk said:
^^^^^This. I think Cochran was the starter. Whitmer adds mobility and was the backup. Boyle, he's the future franchise QB, and I think Diaco knows he has challenges winning this year, and wants an extra year of Boyle. But now the Red Shirt has to come off and I will not be surprised at all if Boyle is the better quarterback right now.
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I thought Davis was the future franchise QB? That is the one guy Diaco recruited.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
^^^^^This. I think Cochran was the starter. Whitmer adds mobility and was the backup. Boyle, he's the future franchise QB, and I think Diaco knows he has challenges winning this year, and wants an extra year of Boyle. But now the Red Shirt has to come off and I will not be surprised at all if Boyle is the better quarterback right now.
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Exactly! +1
 
UconnFamily said:
Says Bob Diaco when he speaks about Tim Boyle "Bonehead"
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EXACTLY - you figured it out. The head coach feels as though your QB is lacking leadership intangibles which the head coach finds important - that is why he is NOT the starter and although he will get a few plays this weekend it will not be close to the 51/49 that Cochran and Whitmer had.
 
WingU-Conn said:
Is there a reason you'd rather address posters, than topics?

Low self-esteem maybe?
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I do both. But it's not just the constant negativity coming from you and Jimmy that is driving these jibes, it's your total lack of self-awareness. I mean you said "far too rational for this Boneyard biz" as if you are floating above the fray. You are a major player in the irrational Boneyard biz. Constant premature hammering of the same points while saying "I'm 100% behind Diaco". I mean really. And the Jimmy of all people calling someone a pompous blowhard. Doctors, heal thyselves.
 
Waquoit said:
I do both. But it's not just the constant negativity coming from you and Jimmy that is driving these jibes, it's your total lack of self-awareness. I mean you said "far too rational for this Boneyard biz" as if you are floating above the fray. You are a major player in the irrational Boneyard biz. Constant premature hammering of the same points while saying "I'm 100% behind Diaco". I mean really. And the Jimmy of all people calling someone a pompous blowhard. Doctors, heal thyselves.
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I remember constant negativity coming from you when we were actually winning league titles and going to bowl games.
 
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Bonehead said:
I thought Davis was the future franchise QB? That is the one guy Diaco recruited.
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Well Davis did get that offer from ODU. Boyle though, had to suffer with that offer from Florida. I don't think Diaco was recruiting for UConn two years ago...do you?

Let's just see how it all plays out. Whitmer has to start right now, it is obvious he should. Maybe he keeps the job and maybe he doesn't.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Well Davis did get that offer from ODU. Boyle though, had to suffer with that offer from Florida. I don't think Diaco was recruiting for UConn two years ago...do you?

Let's just see how it all plays out. Whitmer has to start right now, it is obvious he should. Maybe he keeps the job and maybe he doesn't.
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You are correct, Diaco wasnt recruiting for UConn 2 years ago but the CT HS FB coaches associations' favorite was, PP. But if I remember correctly UConn was his fall back school. Didnt he choose BCU even though he had the sufferable offer from Florida?
Diaco likes mobility out of his QB's - that is not TB's strenght - thats probably why he recruited Davis with the ODU offer and brought in the mobile QB transfer from NC ST.
Listen, I am not trying to get in a peeing match - I am 1000% behind what is best for UConn FB moving forward that is why I am backing a coaches decision and not the local FB hero fans choice. If Boyle was going to be a big surprise he had spring and summer to show it - I wish he could have kept the redshirt but that is out of play at this point. If and when he comes in I will be hoping and cheering for him and the team and if he wins the job great - but there is nothing that is stated from coaches or media that he will surprise - I pray they are all wrong and he goes 3 for 3 for 3 TD's.
 
businesslawyer said:
No, I strongly disagree. If Boyle was more likely to lead us to a win this Saturday than Whitmer, the coaches would be starting him. Are the coaches infallable? Of course not. But is the smart money on them or someone who doesn't see practices and admits that he knows Boyle?
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I don't think it is that black and white. Boyle had a devasting start to his college career. It would be near impossible for an 18yo to not have damage to their confidence after last year. WIth Cochran in the fold, the hope was Boyle could gradually build up his confidence and the team would have better spacing with their QB eligibility. Now that Cochran is out, Boyle has to play. But BD doesn't want to just drop him in against a tough opponent like Boise...it makes more sense to ease him in and take some pressure off.

I think BD thinks CW is the right guy to start the next game....but I also think that BD thinks Boyle is the better talent and when he gets confidence he will be the best option.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Well Davis did get that offer from ODU. Boyle though, had to suffer with that offer from Florida. I don't think Diaco was recruiting for UConn two years ago...do you?

Let's just see how it all plays out. Whitmer has to start right now, it is obvious he should. Maybe he keeps the job and maybe he doesn't.
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Its incredible how Stewart is the best palyer on our defense. I mean he didn't just get an offer from Florida. He actually played there. And why can't we get more guys like Dwayne Difton? You know, multiple Big 10 offers. And Frazer, not only had multiple offers but actually went to Notre Dame. He was the best quarterback ever to set foot on Rentschler Field! Oh wait...
 
Waquoit said:
I do both. But it's not just the constant negativity coming from you and Jimmy that is driving these jibes, it's your total lack of self-awareness. I mean you said "far too rational for this Boneyard biz" as if you are floating above the fray. You are a major player in the irrational Boneyard biz. Constant premature hammering of the same points while saying "I'm 100% behind Diaco". I mean really. And the Jimmy of all people calling someone a pompous blowhard. Doctors, heal thyselves.
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LMAO.

It was a joke. Lighten up.

I apologize for all the negativity displayed while predicting 8-5, sticking with 6-6, and saying repeatedly that this team has more talent than people are giving it credit for. I apologize for saying that you can see Diaco is laying a foundation for a solid program and praising him for getting the players to buy in so quickly.

I apologize for judging our QB situation not just based on the performance of one player, but the performance of both players, and the belief that Diaco has decided on the current starter because that gives us the best chance to win now and/or is best for the program long term.

God forbid I mock the one stupid thing Diaco says because I'd like to find some humor in our current situation.

I thought the negativity stemmed from what we see on the field, from conference realignment, growling dogs on third downs, and mediocre attendance. Self awareness? I never thought I was so important I could drive this board to so much negativity. I've lived in New England my entire life. I thought complaining was what we did best. Jimmy and I driving it? Please.

This board spent years cutting down our own program by belittling our Fiesta Bowl appearance and conference championships. Some of our own fans called us the worst BCS team ever and refused to acknowledge us as conference champions because we were "co-champs" and they didn't like the head coach.

Forgive me if I'm self aware enough to know that there will be complaining and negativity on this board, from this fanbase, for anything less than 13-0. Even then, someone would probably say "yeah but..."
 
businesslawyer said:
No, I strongly disagree. If Boyle was more likely to lead us to a win this Saturday than Whitmer, the coaches would be starting him. Are the coaches infallable? Of course not. But is the smart money on them or someone who doesn't see practices and admits that he knows Boyle?
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I'm totally confused. Weren't you the one who questioned the coaches for splitting the duties between Whitmer and Cochran?

I don't think the premise here is preposterous.

A true freshman QB 1 month into college has a load of growing to do. Putting him out there is throwing him to the wolves.

Whether he's grown or not in the last 12 months is another story entirely.
 
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