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Texas OLmen to get 50k each

Stinger92860 said:
Texas is one of 65 P4/5 schools. Are you suggesting that of the 900+ OL in P4/5 no one was ever in our sights? Now the top 250 OL each year may be out of reach due to the moneyline. At one time there WAS competition for recruits. Are every member of the TX OL top ten in the nation? If not now, they might be. Wait for the other schoos to step up.
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There are very few P5 schools that are going to be able to offer this kind of money so the premise of your argument is wrong. What Texas boosters can offer is not indicative of what mid-low P5s can offer. And at the end of the day, this is targeted at getting top O-line recruits. Non-P5 teams weren’t going to be competing for them regardless. This may shift some of these guys from mid-P5 to the programs with that kind of money.
 
So if I win powerball this week can I basically bankroll UConn athletics and ensure each of the major sports get some of the best recruits in the country via this new setup?
If true, it just shows you what a joke this is.
Also if true, I will do it
 
The Viking said:
So if I win powerball this week can I basically bankroll UConn athletics and ensure each of the major sports get some of the best recruits in the country via this new setup?
If true, it just shows you what a joke this is.
Also if true, I will do it
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Yes it's true... and best of luck.
 
This should be interesting: a bunch of 18yr old males with 50k.

If you invested in Austin bars with exotic dancers, I think you just hit the jackpot.
 
The Viking said:
So if I win powerball this week can I basically bankroll UConn athletics and ensure each of the major sports get some of the best recruits in the country via this new setup?
If true, it just shows you what a joke this is.
Also if true, I will do it
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Isnt it about time to award an honorary degree to Jeff Bezos?
 
Palatine said:
This is because the courts decided a college education had a dollar value of zero.
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No, it’s because the value the athletes provide the university far outstrips the value of their education. It is also because it is ridiculous that players couldn’t make money with their own face and name but the school could.
 
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Vowelguy said:
This should be interesting: a bunch of 18yr old males with 50k.

If you invested in Austin bars with exotic dancers, I think you just hit the jackpot.
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Have you never heard of an 18 year old with a full time job? Maybe a tradesman?

And what’s really the difference in maturity between an 18 year old and a 21 year old with a newly minted college degree making 50k?
 
I'm not that worried about this...yet

Playing time is still a currency that cash itself doesn't fully replace for most athletes....or for those that really want to ball and ball at the next level.
 
Hskies4Ever said:
Have you never heard of an 18 year old with a full time job? Maybe a tradesman?
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The tradesman is working 40 hard hours to pay for food/clothing/shelter.
For FB players, this is not directly tied to work and is almost all discretionary income.
Hskies4Ever said:
And what’s really the difference in maturity between an 18 year old and a 21 year old with a newly minted college degree making 50k?
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Uhhh, seriously?
 
Hskies4Ever said:
Have you never heard of an 18 year old with a full time job? Maybe a tradesman?

And what’s really the difference in maturity between an 18 year old and a 21 year old with a newly minted college degree making 50k?
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Uh, big difference. College athletes have room, board, healthcare, etc. taken care of with no out of pocket cost. This 50k (minus taxes) is pure WAM. The 18 year old tradesman making 50k probably has about 50 cents left after life expenses and taxes.
 
The Viking said:
So if I win powerball this week can I basically bankroll UConn athletics and ensure each of the major sports get some of the best recruits in the country via this new setup?
If true, it just shows you what a joke this is.
Also if true, I will do it
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And now the corruption starts.
 
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huskysupporter said:
They generate revenue for their schools, they should be compensated as the market dictates.
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Tuition also generates money for schools. They should have to pay their own way and give up the scholarship.

A person in my industry was equipment manager for 4 years at Florida. Worked 85 hours a week doing that along with doing their own class work and going to classes and paid their own way through college. Athletes already receive well over $60k/yr factoring in tuition,room, board, all the free gear, meals, books, school supplies, laptop,the list goes on. Yes they deserve to profit off their likeness but at this point they should learn a real life lesson and also pay their own way if they are receiving all those extra benefits
 
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methodology said:
Tuition also generates money for schools. They should have to pay their own way and give up the scholarship.

A person in my industry was equipment manager for 4 years at Florida. Worked 85 hours a week doing that along with doing their own class work and going to classes and paid their own way through college. Athletes already receive well over $60k/yr factoring in tuition,room, board, all the free gear, meals, books, school supplies, laptop,the list goes on. Yes they deserve to profit off their likeness but at this point they should learn a real life lesson and also pay their own way if they are receiving all those extra benefits
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Agree. Nothing good is going to come from this. It will be an utter crap show of excess in no time.
 
huskysupporter said:
They generate revenue for their schools, they should be compensated as the market dictates.
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Except the schools aren't the ones paying for their revenue generation. It's fans and alums. This has nothing to do with "market value". This is ego driven.
 
Well, at least I still make more than a UT O lineman... for now.
 
We are not far away before Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile will be putting logos on uniforms like the equipment makers do now. Not to worry, they will be (relatively) small and tasteful.
 
Jimdish255 said:
Except the schools aren't the ones paying for their revenue generation. It's fans and alums. This has nothing to do with "market value". This is ego driven.
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Fans and alumni = boosters. So basically the NCAA has abandoned enforcement on that issue.
 
methodology said:
Tuition also generates money for schools. They should have to pay their own way and give up the scholarship.

A person in my industry was equipment manager for 4 years at Florida. Worked 85 hours a week doing that along with doing their own class work and going to classes and paid their own way through college. Athletes already receive well over $60k/yr factoring in tuition,room, board, all the free gear, meals, books, school supplies, laptop,the list goes on. Yes they deserve to profit off their likeness but at this point they should learn a real life lesson and also pay their own way if they are receiving all those extra benefits
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How would what you are proposing work? Most college football players won't earn much or anything in NIL, so I assume you don't want them to give up their scholarships. How is it decided who is required to give it up, then? As you said above, the $50k these linemen are receiving doesn't even cover their expenses for attending and living at school, so the line must be even higher than $50k. At that point, you are talking about such a small number of students that it would seem ridiculous to worry about it.

Furthermore, why should a person be prohibited from accepting benefits that are legally provided to them in exchange for the recipient doing something legal. If a guy convinces a school to provide education, room, board, food, and swag in exchange for playing football, good for him. If the same guy is also able to get an offer from someone else for NIL, also good for him. I grant you the morals and legalities in the second scenario can get murky pretty quickly, but in no case does it make sense to me to ever take away a players scholarship just because he got some other benefit somewhere else. Should every athlete from a wealthy family have their scholarship revoked?

I can't believe this "ThEy ShOuLd PaY ThEiR oWn Way!!" meme is even treated with any amount of respect. It is impractical, irrational, and, although I can't put my finger on it, I think it speaks to a moral or at least logical flaw in the proponents of the idea.
 
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Really it's the NCAA trying to hold onto relevance. The prospect of the G-League or a competitor providing that HS to pro-transition in the revenue sports, particularly with their golden goose, D1 Basketball, more or less forced their hand to adopt this or face acceleration in the transition of the top athletes fleeing the college ranks for their pre-pro prep.

There will be some correction in this at some point, where boosters are going to be less interested in dropping their own wealth to fund the 2nd and 3rd string players, even at the major schools, because while saying I fund Texas football might have some cache, it's not the same as saying I'm paying our first string or our Heisman trophy candidate, etc. It will naturally start to flow players in search of additional playing time and the addition name, image and likeness opportunity that comes with it.

People figuring out just what they can get away with is still going on, it'll get worse the next couple of years before it stabilizes. Where it'll be a real difference maker is in the non-football/men's basketball sports. If you go to a school that has outsized popularity for a non-traditional revenue sport (think UConn Women's Basketball; BC Hockey; etc) then those players will have much more NIL opportunity than other schools and it'll be more likely to funnel talent to those schools.
 
RSTuthill said:
We are not far away before Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile will be putting logos on uniforms like the equipment makers do now. Not to worry, they will be (relatively) small and tasteful.
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Most schools do not allow their brand to be associated with whatever promo the college kids are doing. Not sure how it is at Texas, but UConn will not allow Paige to wear a UConn uniform or anything like that in her sponsorships.
 
ScottVib said:
Really it's the NCAA trying to hold onto relevance. The prospect of the G-League or a competitor providing that HS to pro-transition in the revenue sports, particularly with their golden goose, D1 Basketball, more or less forced their hand to adopt this or face acceleration in the transition of the top athletes fleeing the college ranks for their pre-pro prep.

There will be some correction in this at some point, where boosters are going to be less interested in dropping their own wealth to fund the 2nd and 3rd string players, even at the major schools, because while saying I fund Texas football might have some cache, it's not the same as saying I'm paying our first string or our Heisman trophy candidate, etc. It will naturally start to flow players in search of additional playing time and the addition name, image and likeness opportunity that comes with it.

People figuring out just what they can get away with is still going on, it'll get worse the next couple of years before it stabilizes. Where it'll be a real difference maker is in the non-football/men's basketball sports. If you go to a school that has outsized popularity for a non-traditional revenue sport (think UConn Women's Basketball; BC Hockey; etc) then those players will have much more NIL opportunity than other schools and it'll be more likely to funnel talent to those schools.
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How is this the NCAA trying to hold on to relevance when they were the people fighting against this?
 
Dizzy21 said:
Most schools do not allow their brand to be associated with whatever promo the college kids are doing. Not sure how it is at Texas, but UConn will not allow Paige to wear a UConn uniform or anything like that in her sponsorships.
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Thx, I understand that. I was speaking to the trend of increasing commercialization is all.
 
I don't begrudge the kids the money, but this will transform college athletics. This is only the tip of the iceberg. Once in full competitive mode these types of NIL programs will be used as a recruiting enticements and the prices will go up. Some programs will spare no expense in attracting top recruits and I have to believe that quickly gets to seven figure money for top recruits. I see a number of problems with that. First, it will bifurcate college athletics because only a limited number of programs will be able to arrange those types of incentives. Second, not many kids will be ready to handle this type of money. It will bring out the sharks and it's easy to see a lot of kids being taken advantage.
 
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