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Texas OLmen to get 50k each

huskymedic said:
There is a bit more here (… and yea, proof will in the projects completed not in a press release). $50k of value is quite a bit.

businessofcollegesports.com

Texas Offensive Linemen to Receive $50,000 Each to Promote Charities

The newly formed Horns with Heart entity will help raise money for NIL deals with Texas athletes to benefit charities.
businessofcollegesports.com businessofcollegesports.com

-> In exchange the student athletes will be expected to participate in activities that will benefit various charities. For example, Horns with Heart might choose a Habitat for Humanity group to support and take the entire offensive line to build a house. Another example would be a flag football tournament to benefit a youth sports charity. <-
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Wait wait wait... so this is a "newly formed" "charity" that raised $800,000 that coincidentally is the exact payout to the Texas lineman? This is a Ponzi scheme to hide who is really paying the athletes and so the donors to get a tax write off. Amazing.
 
methodology said:
Tuition also generates money for schools. They should have to pay their own way and give up the scholarship.

A person in my industry was equipment manager for 4 years at Florida. Worked 85 hours a week doing that along with doing their own class work and going to classes and paid their own way through college. Athletes already receive well over $60k/yr factoring in tuition,room, board, all the free gear, meals, books, school supplies, laptop,the list goes on. Yes they deserve to profit off their likeness but at this point they should learn a real life lesson and also pay their own way if they are receiving all those extra benefits
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85,000 people didn't pay money every other Saturday to watch the equipment manager.

They are learning a valuable life lesson: know your worth. If they weren't worth this money, no one would be paying. UT is happy to fork over those scholarships.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
85,000 people didn't pay money every other Saturday to watch the equipment manager.

They are learning a valuable life lesson: know your worth. If they weren't worth this money, no one would be paying. UT is happy to fork over those scholarships.
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So what about me working as an apprentice electrician wiring your house or hvac or any trade school so your house doesn’t burn to the ground from shotty work… I’m not being paid my worth either I have to put in the time to get the next level to be paid my worth
 
methodology said:
So what about me working as an apprentice electrician wiring your house or hvac or any trade school so your house doesn’t burn to the ground from shotty work… I’m not being paid my worth either I have to put in the time to get the next level to be paid my worth
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You literally are being paid your worth. If you were worth more, you'd be offered it by someone else and you'd take it.
 
Get a Job said:
You literally are being paid your worth. If you were worth more, you'd be offered it by someone else and you'd take it.
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Lol actually no. You have to put in so many hours first before you can. I can be the best ever Michael Jordan but until I meet that hour mark I’m being paid as an apprentice

Thanks for proving your naivety
 
"Worth" will be ultimately decided by fandom and what monetary emphasis a school puts on winning.....and the market is opened up with NIL.

NIL has replaced the bagmen of old, but there are some differences now.

Bagmen and those who filled the bags were willing to do so even though it was against the rules. Many boosters, fans and businesses were not involved in that and likely didn't even know how to get involved even if they wanted to. It was a very small percentage of a program's supporters and big money ones at that.

NIL is legal and is out in the open, so there's an opportunity for everyone to get involved, to include the non-big money folks. That includes businesses who aren't even fans of the programs in certain situations, but want to back a star player and/or program to legitimately try to boost their sales.

What a school/booster organization needs to be doing is creating a NIL system for their school and marketing the hell out of it to get as many want to be/would-be supporters to join the cause. A known one-stop-shop.

And that is occurring...at UConn and everywhere.

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (Dec. 7, 2021) – Two former members of the Executive Board of Directors of the Seminole Boosters announced the formation of Rising Spear, a new platform to develop Name, Image and Likeness (NIL) opportunities for Florida State University student-athletes. Rising Spear is a third-party entity not affiliated with Florida State University. The new organization will provide a platform to create and develop NIL opportunities for FSU student-athletes in cooperation with businesses and sponsors. Rising Spear will consist of two options – Gold Standard, representing for profit opportunities supported by local and national businesses, and Garnet Spirit, a not-for-profit platform creating opportunities to engage FSU student-athletes through appearance fees to help meet the needs of local communities through clinics, fundraising, community service projects and events supporting underserved communities.


Fans, supporters and friends of programs like Bama, the Aggies, Ohio State will be able to assemble much larger payola packages than the same at FSU, UConn, etc.
 
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methodology said:
Lol actually no. You have to put in so many hours first before you can. I can be the best ever Michael Jordan but until I meet that hour mark I’m being paid as an apprentice

Thanks for proving your naivety
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You are not understanding what I'm saying, but your response helps explain why you hold the original opinion with which I disagreed.

Anyway, it's all good. Go Huskies!
 
Get a Job said:
You are not understanding what I'm saying, but your response helps explain why you hold the original opinion with which I disagreed.

Anyway, it's all good. Go Huskies!
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You can have scrubs playing and fans, alumni, community is still filling the stadiums it has nothing to do with the players. That’s what you’re missing

They should be able to profit off their likeness but there is a threshold and then they should have to pay their own way (they are already being given well over 60k upwards of 100k) and their scholarship should go to another more deserving student

The players aren’t the ones bringing the money in it’s the fans, alumni, community who supports and watches them
 
methodology said:
So what about me working as an apprentice electrician wiring your house or hvac or any trade school so your house doesn’t burn to the ground from shotty work… I’m not being paid my worth either I have to put in the time to get the next level to be paid my worth
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No argument from me. But I won't under value athletes because society under values your profession. It should be a race to the top, not a race to the bottom.

I can't wire a candle, so you have my respect. But there is a higher probability of success in training me to do your job than there is in making me a 315 left tackle with great hands and footwork. I tried D-I Football..I wasn't nearly good enough.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
No argument from me. But I won't under value athletes because society under values your profession. It should be a race to the top, not a race to the bottom.

I can't wire a candle, so you have my respect. But there is a higher probability of success in training me to do your job than there is in making me a 315 left tackle with great hands and footwork. I tried D-I Football..I wasn't nearly good enough.
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Baseball and golf is more difficult than football those athletes aren’t getting paid

Btw I’m not an electrician I build tennis courts/basketball/pickleball/golf greens/any sports surface. But I know a lot of people in trade school/unions and they get paid crap while being very good at their profession until they meet the 1000 hour or whatever it is to be licensed and paid accordingly

College football is an apprenticeship no different. Put in your time and you will be rewarded
 
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methodology said:
Baseball and golf is more difficult than football those athletes aren’t getting paid

Btw I’m not an electrician I build tennis courts/basketball/pickleball/golf greens/any sports surface. But I know a lot of people in trade school/unions and they get paid crap while being very good at their profession until they meet the 1000 hour or whatever it is to be licensed and paid accordingly

College football is an apprenticeship no different. Put in your time and you will be rewarded
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The argument is that high school was the apprentice period.
 
methodology said:
Baseball and golf is more difficult than football those athletes aren’t getting paid

Btw I’m not an electrician I build tennis courts/basketball/pickleball/golf greens/any sports surface. But I know a lot of people in trade school/unions and they get paid crap while being very good at their profession until they meet the 1000 hour or whatever it is to be licensed and paid accordingly

College football is an apprenticeship no different. Put in your time and you will be rewarded
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Baseball and golf don’t have nearly the audience and basically always lose money. Not sure what that has to do with football. You’re thinking about football as a minor league to the NFL but that is a distant secondary goal. It is first and foremost its own entertainment product. These guys aren’t apprentices.
 
uconnfan68 said:
The argument is that high school was the apprentice period.
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And these people don’t get that without the fans (who could careless about the players it’s about their fandom, supporting their school, community) there’s none of this money, there’s no tv contracts. The players didn’t get the eyeballs or fans coming they were already watching/attending regardless
 
methodology said:
Baseball and golf is more difficult than football those athletes aren’t getting paid

Btw I’m not an electrician I build tennis courts/basketball/pickleball/golf greens/any sports surface. But I know a lot of people in trade school/unions and they get paid crap while being very good at their profession until they meet the 1000 hour or whatever it is to be licensed and paid accordingly

College football is an apprenticeship no different. Put in your time and you will be rewarded
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If an apprentice could get paid a, he would. It isn't an act of nobility, it is a requirement. Go offer an trades person a 50k bonus during their training and see if they turn it down.

Again, if they weren't worth it, no one would be paying.
 
Exactly...how much are the linemen at Villanova or Wyoming being paid?
 
methodology said:
Baseball and golf is more difficult than football those athletes aren’t getting paid

Btw I’m not an electrician I build tennis courts/basketball/pickleball/golf greens/any sports surface. But I know a lot of people in trade school/unions and they get paid crap while being very good at their profession until they meet the 1000 hour or whatever it is to be licensed and paid accordingly

College football is an apprenticeship no different. Put in your time and you will be rewarded
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Well, we damn sure knew you weren't an economist :)
 
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methodology said:
You can have scrubs playing and fans, alumni, community is still filling the stadiums it has nothing to do with the players. That’s what you’re missing

They should be able to profit off their likeness but there is a threshold and then they should have to pay their own way (they are already being given well over 60k upwards of 100k) and their scholarship should go to another more deserving student

The players aren’t the ones bringing the money in it’s the fans, alumni, community who supports and watches them
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How can you say the players aren't bringing in the money? They are literally the only reason anyone one spends the money they do in regards to the sport. Remove the players and there is no team to watch and there is nothing to spend money on.
 
For me this all boils down to the following questions: If we accept the premise that these are adults who have the right to profit from the use of their names and likeness because of their athletic prowess, which I do, if/when athletes make enough to support themselves why should an academic institution bother having athletics, never mind supporting athletes financially with scholarships, etc.? Why would any fan of College athletics be interested in watching a paid development league with University logo slapped on their unis? Its such a tortured, contrived model it's nauseating.

And another thing- how do the NBA and NFL get away with benefiting from Universities-As-Developmental-Leagues system without paying a dime? Other sports have to support development.

A solution I could live with would be to make a reasonable calculation of the average income for an undergrad is for a year from their part-time/ summer jobs. This after all is the opportunity cost of being a full-time student athlete. Make that the ceiling that any college athlete can be paid. Then let the pro leagues pay it to the athletes who play their respective sports.

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methodology said:
And these people don’t get that without the fans (who could careless about the players it’s about their fandom, supporting their school, community) there’s none of this money, there’s no tv contracts. The players didn’t get the eyeballs or fans coming they were already watching/attending regardless
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Do games at the Rent look the same today as they did in 2010? No. Where are the fans? They're waiting for better players to show up at the school, then they'll return to games at the Rent.
 
Greedo said:
Do games at the Rent look the same today as they did in 2010? No. Where are the fans? They're waiting for better players to show up at the school, then they'll return to games at the Rent.
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We are talking about big time football it has nothing to do with the players at schools in the south or Ohio st/Michigan/notre dame. That’s a way of life, it’s a religion they are packing the stadiums regardless

In the northeast we don’t care unless they are good we are the most fickle bandwagon fans in the nation
 
DoctorWho85 said:
How can you say the players aren't bringing in the money? They are literally the only reason anyone one spends the money they do in regards to the sport. Remove the players and there is no team to watch and there is nothing to spend money on.
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You can find players anywhere is what I’m saying. It has nothing to do with Zion Williams or Trevor Lawrence’s of the sporting world in college
 
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methodology said:
We are talking about big time football it has nothing to do with the players at schools in the south or Ohio st/Michigan/notre dame. That’s a way of life, it’s a religion they are packing the stadiums regardless

In the northeast we don’t care unless they are good we are the most fickle bandwagon fans in the nation
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Getting in the new years six game, the playoffs or winning a national championship isn't worth something?
 
Guys, he thinks a guy who can learn to wire a double-pole double-throw switch has the same value in the free market as someone who can compete at the highest levels of football. Why bother arguing?
 
methodology said:
We are talking about big time football it has nothing to do with the players at schools in the south or Ohio st/Michigan/notre dame. That’s a way of life, it’s a religion they are packing the stadiums regardless

In the northeast we don’t care unless they are good we are the most fickle bandwagon fans in the nation
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You're moving the goal posts. So we should pay players at UConn, but not at Texas because the players are more valuable to making money in one place than the other?
 
Greedo said:
You're moving the goal posts. So we should pay players at UConn, but not at Texas because the players are more valuable to making money in one place than the other?
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No I’ve already said they should be able to profit off their likeness but at a certain point the scholarship should be pulled and they should pay their own way

The only reason those players are more valuable is the school and fans
 
methodology said:
No I’ve already said they should be able to profit off their likeness but at a certain point the scholarship should be pulled and they should pay their own way

The only reason those players are more valuable is the school and fans
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This is an asinine argument and it’s not getting any better. Why pay pro players? I mean fans would show up at a Yankees game regardless of which player is there, right?
 
WhereistheDove? said:
This is an asinine argument and it’s not getting any better. Why pay pro players? I mean fans would show up at a Yankees game regardless of which player is there, right?
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You just answered your own question PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES

These are college athletes. Go pro or take another route but just like any trade school there is an apprenticeship period set/mandated by the NFL
 
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