Texas & OK ask to join SEC?

[Adios]

This may very well be another UT/B12 negotiation ploy. Texas is ruthless.

Texas is aiming for a permanent home, much like Nebraska, as well as some others that once made up the Big 8.

This would be the end of the road in realignment for Texas and Oklahoma. Realignment will be finished for those 2 schools.

 

[hoopsfan22]

Isn't Arizona one of the fastest growing states in the US? I can only see the Big Ten raiding the ACC and the PAC raiding whoever west of the Mississippi, but who am I? Definitely don't see how UConn gets left out of this new ridiculous paradigm. Because of the market.

UT offering their souls to the SEC is a genius move from an athletics standpoint, no matter what I want to think. Funny to think the SEC was looking at UNC and UVA and UT and OU throw themselves at the opportunity. I know some have said UVA would never join the SEC, but again, what do we know.

Arizona will grow as fast as their water supply. Mother nature is about to give these southwestern cities a wake up call. And if markets really mattered, UConn would have been in a P5 a long, long time ago.

 

[Jimdish255]

Arizona will grow as fast as their water supply. Mother nature is about to give these southwestern cities a wake up call. And if markets really mattered, UConn would have been in a P5 a long, long time ago.

Rapid growth in Arizona’s suburbs bets against an uncertain water supply.

Rapid growth in Arizona’s suburbs bets against an uncertain water supply - High Country News

‘The alternative is something they don’t want to think about.’

www.hcn.org

 

[WestHartHusk]

Texas is aiming for a permanent home, much like Nebraska, as well as some others that once made up the Big 8.

This would be the end of the road in realignment for Texas and Oklahoma. Realignment will be finished for those 2 schools.

SEC exit fee is $0. UT knows this. If they continue to flail in the SEC don't expect them not to rock the boat. Texas ego is a very fragile thing.

 

[ZooCougar]

I still find it amazing that this conference or any conference was paying Iowa State as much as Texas and OU and they act like they didn’t see this coming.

 

[Glastonhusky]

I suspect WVU has always longed for the ACC, not sure how much mutual interest there is however on the ACC's part. Of course if they want to add WVU and bring UConn along with them, I'm all for it.

 

[huskymedic]

I suspect WVU has always longed for the ACC, not sure how much mutual interest there is however on the ACC's part.

Yup and the article raises a few of those points (… and these writers are all spitballing @ this point):

-> Ten years ago, a block of ACC schools objected to West Virginia’s lack of lofty academic standing and the perception that its fans were too unruly. Will the ACC’s feelings have changed a decade later?

Although West Virginia isn’t part of the Association of American Universities — a prestigious distinction to which six ACC schools belong (and eight don’t) — WVU raised its academic profile by achieving Carnegie R1 research status in 2016. Throughout Gordon Gee’s second stint as president, the administration and athletic department have worked to eradicate the rowdy image of some students and fans. Anecdotally, Big 12 fans traveling to Morgantown across the past 10 years have found the gameday atmosphere welcoming. <-

-> One ACC source told The Athletic on Friday that the expansion conversation “starts and stops” with Notre Dame. “Notre Dame and anyone is a home run,” the source said, adding that WVU would make sense as the 16th ACC member to reunite with the league’s former Big East members. Also of note: Clemson president Jim Clements was president of WVU during the 2011 realignment scramble, and current Mountaineers athletic director Shane Lyons previously spent 10 years as an associate commissioner at the ACC.

College Football Hall of Fame coach Don Nehlen, whose relationship with ex-Big 12 commissioner Chuck Neinas strengthened West Virginia’s realignment cause in 2011, still resides in Morgantown. At age 85, he still keeps up with college athletics and contends the Mountaineers would bolster the ACC in football and basketball.

“The ACC would be a really good fit for us,” Nehlen told The Athletic on Saturday. “This time, we’ve got a gentleman named Gordon Gee who we didn’t have before, and with Clements at Clemson, that would really be two pluses for us.” <-

 

[TRest]

Yup and the article raises a few of those points (… and these writers are all spitballing @ this point):

-> Ten years ago, a block of ACC schools objected to West Virginia’s lack of lofty academic standing and the perception that its fans were too unruly. Will the ACC’s feelings have changed a decade later?

Although West Virginia isn’t part of the Association of American Universities — a prestigious distinction to which six ACC schools belong (and eight don’t) — WVU raised its academic profile by achieving Carnegie R1 research status in 2016. Throughout Gordon Gee’s second stint as president, the administration and athletic department have worked to eradicate the rowdy image of some students and fans. Anecdotally, Big 12 fans traveling to Morgantown across the past 10 years have found the gameday atmosphere welcoming. <-

-> One ACC source told The Athletic on Friday that the expansion conversation “starts and stops” with Notre Dame. “Notre Dame and anyone is a home run,” the source said, adding that WVU would make sense as the 16th ACC member to reunite with the league’s former Big East members. Also of note: Clemson president Jim Clements was president of WVU during the 2011 realignment scramble, and current Mountaineers athletic director Shane Lyons previously spent 10 years as an associate commissioner at the ACC.

College Football Hall of Fame coach Don Nehlen, whose relationship with ex-Big 12 commissioner Chuck Neinas strengthened West Virginia’s realignment cause in 2011, still resides in Morgantown. At age 85, he still keeps up with college athletics and contends the Mountaineers would bolster the ACC in football and basketball.

“The ACC would be a really good fit for us,” Nehlen told The Athletic on Saturday. “This time, we’ve got a gentleman named Gordon Gee who we didn’t have before, and with Clements at Clemson, that would really be two pluses for us.” <-

Once they held their nose and let UL in, the academic argument went out the window.

 

[bendm]

Latest conference realignment rumor states SEC in ‘serious contact’ with UM, OSU

Could you picture a Big Ten that doesn't include Michigan and Ohio State? That is apparently a possibility if you believe this latest rumor on conference realignment.

sports.yahoo.com

SEC in contact with OSU, UM, Clemson and F$U for a 20 team super conference

 

[Adios]

Arizona will grow as fast as their water supply. Mother nature is about to give these southwestern cities a wake up call. And if markets really mattered, UConn would have been in a P5 a long, long time ago.

We just elevated our football program. The success of the rest of the athletic department speaks for itself. Wonder how we got and still get championship level recruits here if the market isn't there for such.

If our football program was D1A long ago, we'd be in the P5, yeah. Not hard to figure this logic.

 

[Adios]

SEC exit fee is $0. UT knows this. If they continue to flail in the SEC don't expect them not to rock the boat. Texas ego is a very fragile thing.

Stepping up to or already in the SEC and then running away? Any school that has done that has yet to recover revenue lost. Plus, that would be very bad optics for UT. A&M would look like the winner then, too.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Latest conference realignment rumor states SEC in ‘serious contact’ with UM, OSU

Could you picture a Big Ten that doesn't include Michigan and Ohio State? That is apparently a possibility if you believe this latest rumor on conference realignment.

sports.yahoo.com

This would be the best possible outcome, because:

1) the remaining B1G teams would have to do something to try to salvage their conference, and
2) The Big East would likely be the #1 basketball league after this bloodbath occurred, and
3) Someone would have to slide down the pecking order. A league with Georgia, Florida, Alabama, A&M, Auburn, LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, Michigan and tOSU can't have everyone go 10-2. Someone has to lose all those marquee matchups.

 

[bendm]

This would be the best possible outcome

SEC wants 20 teams- also contacted Clemson and F$U

i'd love it, destroy the big12, big10, and acc in the same week. UConn rules the ashes.

 

[bendm]

 

[Hoophound]

How would 20 team conferences affect scheduling for non-super conference teams? Will they play fewer nonconference games, making it tougher for independents to schedule?

 

[CL82]

How would 20 team conferences affect scheduling for non-super conference teams? Will they play fewer nonconference games, making it tougher for independents to schedule?

Doesn’t matter to us. If they end up going to 4 20 team conferences we are in.

 

[hoopsfan22]

There are currently 65 power conference teams. You'd hope that if they expand to 80 that they'd have to let us in. There is no way there are more than 15 schools ahead of us on the bubble.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[hoopsfan22]

Yes the B1G should expand - to add UConn.

 

[bendm]

Clemson football: 3 reasons why it’s time to join the SEC

Here are three reasons why it's time for the Clemson football program- and entire Athletic Department- to move on from the ACC and join the SEC.

rubbingtherock.com

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Hoophound]

Doesn’t matter to us. If they end up going to 4 20 team conferences we are in.

No one seems to think that’s the end game. Two, maybe three superconferences seems to be the consensus.

 

[Stinger92860]

Doesn’t matter to us. If they end up going to 4 20 team conferences we are in.

Could it be 2 or 3 super conferences? Why 4?

 

[Adios]

The end game in football is probably the SEC, the Big Ten and the PAC. And everyone else fights for the single Group of Whatever Number playoff bid.

Conferences would still essentially monopolize access to a championship, as they have now.

 

[UConnJim]

I suspect WVU has always longed for the ACC, not sure how much mutual interest there is however on the ACC's part. Of course if they want to add WVU and bring UConn along with them, I'm all for it.

The ACC has not done conference realignment well. For the northeast, they should have grabbed Rutgers and UConn, state flagship universities and tried for a new media deal that could have kept Maryland. An ACC Network that encompasses NJ, NY, CT, and Maryland would have potentially been a windfall for the ACC Network and the schools.

The ACC is in a bind. Clemson and Florida St., have to be itching to get out of the conference given the ACC LT media deal that guarantees they will fall further behind financially to peer schools outside of the ACC. Notre Dame is the only possible addition to the ACC that could boost the conference finances, but the ACC is full of schools, like the Big 12, that do not bring much value to the conference. And, why would Notre Dame want to bring their football into the ACC and have to carry the lesser schools financially? They would make more money on their own or in the Big 10 or SEC.

As for West Virginia, I like the Mountaineers and appreciated them as conference foes, but they won't move the needle financially for the ACC and in a streaming world, it's hard to see them adding much value. This has nothing to do with athletic performance, but there are only 720k households in West Virginia and Pitt is already in the Pittsburgh market. Think about this, the Oho State/Michigan game and the Alabama/Auburn game had about as many viewers as West Virginia football had for the entire season in 2019 even though most of the WVU games were shown on ESPN, FOX, or ABC and they played Oklahoma and Texas. Unfortunately, that comparison can be made for most of the current P5 schools.