Terry Larrier VCU Game Film

[PradaMane]

He's super long and can do more than I expected with the ball in his hands. Far better than all of our wings other than hamilton. Im excited to have him. Id love to say that one year red shirt will definitely clear up his basketball deficiencies but then look at our recent case with Rodney Purvis, other than putting on muscle pretty much no growth in his skill set. I hope Terry can take advantage of his year off

 

[mauconnfan]

He's super long and can do more than I expected with the ball in his hands. Far better than all of our wings other than hamilton. Im excited to have him. Id love to say that one year red shirt will definitely clear up his basketball deficiencies but then look at our recent case with Rodney Purvis, other than putting on muscle pretty much no growth in his skill set. I hope Terry can take advantage of his year off

No growth for Purvis? Not sure why you didn't see any considering how the season ended for him? He has things he still needs to improve on no doubt but as the year went on he grew in many areas. Pretty happy he's a Husky.

 

[rayrayfor3]

Was his role on VCU to just chuck up 3's? He seems so much more effective slashing to the hoop. Definitely has the potential to be something special though.

 

[PradaMane]

No growth for Purvis? Not sure why you didn't see any considering how the season ended for him? He has things he still needs to improve on no doubt but as the year went on he grew in many areas. Pretty happy he's a Husky.

I was talking about his growth during his redshirt year. He had the same problems to start the season at uconn that he had at NC state. I hope Larrier will make better use of his time practicing with the team

 

[CAHUSKY]

I was talking about his growth during his redshirt year. He had the same problems to start the season at uconn that he had at NC state. I hope Larrier will make better use of his time practicing with the team

A year of practice is great but it still is a poor proxy for actual game time. As we saw with Rodney, it took a while to get back into the swing of actual game action. I figure it will probably be similar with Larrier.

 

[jibsey]

I'm really happy with the direction Rodney is headed in. Whatever injury affected him cleared up second half of season and he became a real force. He's going to have a more balanced attack around him this year and I expect big things. Most likely will be our leading scorer. Larrier is physically gifted and it's up to our staff to develop those gifts. Just cut down mistakes and then expect 5 rebounds and 12 points night in and out. If he improves his shooting he can do a Jeremy Lamb impersonation.

 

[Dogbreath2U]

I would like to see KO push Larrier to stop the quick 3's and push him to attack the basket. JC did this with Charlie V. and it eventually led to his becoming a much more impactful player at UConn. Obviously they are different players at different positions. I would have liked to see JC do the same thing more with Rudy Gay who I thought settled for jump shots way too often in college.

 

[HuskyFich]

I must say I see much more of a poor man's Rudy Gay here. Clearly not as polished, but IMO he will not be a stretch 4. With Enoch and Diarra coming in, KO seems to be focused on bolstering the front court with actual BIG men. This kid can run, jump, pass and has good form on his shot, even though its rushed and selection is clearly poor. But that will improve and his athleticism just oozes out.

 

[Marat]

TCF - awesome job on putting together the Larrier highlights (and Gibbs).

If you find some time and have desire, I would love to see some highlights of Shonn Miller. I'm pretty excited to see him fill an important role next season, but haven't been able to view too many in game highlights of his. I think he will be surprise many. Thanks!

 

[CallMeBruce]

TCF - awesome job on putting together the Larrier highlights (and Gibbs).

If you find some time and have desire, I would love to see some highlights of Shonn Miller. I'm pretty excited to see him fill an important role next season, but haven't been able to view too many in game highlights of his. I think he will be surprise many. Thanks!

Thank the folks at Michigan for this:

 

[Peacefrog]

I didn't have anything to base my expectations on beyond some reports and opinions here but his shot is a good deal worse than I expected but his handle is a lot better.

He seems to fancy himself a sharpshooter but I'm not sure I see it. As many have noted, his shot selection was often questionable but even when he had open looks the ball seems to go up there very hard.

He might be better off playing mid-range and down low. He looked good going to the basket and could elevate above his defender in the lane.

One of my favorite aspects of his game is the ability to grab a rebound and take a least a few dribbles up the court (and often many more) to get the transition game going. Compared to having to wait and hand the ball off to a guard this could be a big plus.

I'm not sure I see great comparisons with Daniels or Hamilton. He can't shoot like Deandre but looks much quicker and more athletic. Deandre seemed to more slide by people whereas Larrier beats them off the dribble or rises above them. Hamilton also seems to have a better shot but Larrier's handle looks a bit better. I'm not sure Larrier is quite the facilitator than Hamilton is. I see more Hamilton than Daniels but I'm not sure either is a great comparison.

He could be a nice trouble-maker as a four with his handle.

 

[CallMeBruce]

I love how dudes watch one highlight video and know how Larrier should fundamentally change his game.

 

[johnhuskies95]

I love how dudes watch one highlight video and know how Larrier should fundamentally change his game.

For one, this was a way more comprehensive highlight video than most. TCF basically included every play Larrier was involved in from a box score standpoint for those games.

Secondly, the stats back up what Peacefrog was saying. He shot 26% from three last year. Changing his shot selection seems like a good thing to do.

 

[Rico444]

I'm not sure I see great comparisons with Daniels or Hamilton. He can't shoot like Deandre but looks much quicker and more athletic.

Well, DeAndre shot 24% on 3s his freshman year to Larrier's 26%, so I would say it's too early to say the kid can't shoot. Plenty of great three-point shooters struggle from deep their freshman year; Giffey did, too, and we all know he's a very good shooter from deep.

 

[CallMeBruce]

For one, this was a way more comprehensive highlight video than most. TCF basically included every play Larrier was involved in from a box score standpoint for those games.

Secondly, the stats back up what Peacefrog was saying. He shot 26% from three last year. Changing his shot selection seems like a good thing to do.

His suggestion was that Larrier cease to be a perimeter player and work mid-range in. That's a massive change to his game, and there's no highlight video good enough to justify that kind of change.

 

[mets1090]

I love how dudes watch one highlight video and know how Larrier should fundamentally change his game.

To be fair, this isn't really a highlight video. This is more like game film since it includes the ugly bricks (which every player obviously has but aren't shown in highlights).

 

[tcf15]

His suggestion was that Larrier cease to be a perimeter player and work mid-range in. That's a massive change to his game, and there's no highlight video good enough to justify that kind of change.

Pretty much this.

The 11 games that were available he shot 6/32 from three. I could have made another video from 11 games where he went 22/45 from three.

 

[Dogbreath2U]

His suggestion was that Larrier cease to be a perimeter player and work mid-range in. That's a massive change to his game, and there's no highlight video good enough to justify that kind of change.

It is possible that he could stop the rushed 3's and emphasize getting higher percentage shots without having to give up perimeter shooting entirely.

 

[johnhuskies95]

Well, DeAndre shot 24% on 3s his freshman year to Larrier's 26%, so I would say it's too early to say the kid can't shoot. Plenty of great three-point shooters struggle from deep their freshman year; Giffey did, too, and we all know he's a very good shooter from deep.

Giffey shot 32% from 3 as a freshman. That's not great, but that's what Calhoun shot as a freshman and everybody thinks he was a marksman that year. DeAndre came in with a better rep as a shooter than Larrier did out of high school, and Larrier shot over twice as many threes as DeAndre did in their respective freshmen years, so his sample size was bigger.

His suggestion was that Larrier cease to be a perimeter player and work mid-range in. That's a massive change to his game, and there's no highlight video good enough to justify that kind of change.

That's really not what he said. He said that he "might be better off playing mid-range and down low". I don't think that means to have Larrier stop taking threes altogether, just to take more shots from other parts of the floor. It's not a stretch to suggest that a 26% three point shooter probably shouldn't take 3 and a half threes a game, and probably shouldn't take
40% more threes than twos.

 

[jibsey]

I bet that he's shooting better 17 months from now with all that time to work on it.

 

[Peacefrog]

I love how dudes watch one highlight video and know how Larrier should fundamentally change his game.

I think you're extrapolating quite a bit here and I'm not sure that anything I said deserved you jumping all over me. Maybe lighten up a bit. I was careful to note how I had little to go on but hey, those were my observations. For the love of Pete if someone can't post a reasonable opinion based on video provided here what good is this discussion forum.

 

[Rico444]

Giffey shot 32% from 3 as a freshman. That's not great, but that's what Calhoun shot as a freshman and everybody thinks he was a marksman that year. DeAndre came in with a better rep as a shooter than Larrier did out of high school, and Larrier shot over twice as many threes as DeAndre did in their respective freshmen years, so his sample size was bigger.

I don't care if Larrier shot 1000 3s last year; the difference between freshman and sophomore years can be huge. Caron Butler made a 10% jump from his freshman to sophomore year, so did AJ Price. Coming to the conclusion that Larrier is a bad shooter after one season is short-sighted.

 

[Peacefrog]

I don't care if Larrier shot 1000 3s last year; the difference between freshman and sophomore years can be huge. Caron Butler made a 10% jump from his freshman to sophomore year, so did AJ Price. Coming to the conclusion that Larrier is a bad shooter after one season is short-sighted.

Christ Almighty, I'm a long-timer who doesn't post much anymore and now I remember why. This place can be full of rock-heads who seem more intent on being the self-appointed voices of reason and authority than having a discussion or sharing opinions. Did you even pay attention to the language I used because it wasn't happenstance. "not sure", "might", "seems"; does this sound like someone who has drawn any firm conclusions, suggested that he fundamentally change his game or cease to be a perimeter player entirely? I admitted that all I had to go on was what was available here. My observation were based on the video and I don't think they are unreasonable. Offer an alternative position if you like, that's the whole point of this place, but maybe come down off your high horses.

 

[jibsey]

The kid has tools and some talent for our coaching staff to work with, that's about it for now until we get word from team practices that profess he's the best player on the floor and he's a Maserati waiting to be let out of the garage.

 

[Tenspro2002]

A lot of the bad shots appear to be taken in the context of a frenetic offense. It's more a matter of shot selection.

His stroke looks good, he's a 6'7 small forward, he should be taking 3's. (Minus the girth of someone like Shonn Miller, he's not playing the 4 with much regularity, in the same manner as Hamilton.) I would wager that within our offense, with playmakers around him (hopefully), he's a 33-35% shooter from deep.

That said, he shouldn't be taking as many 3's as he did with VCU. With his athleticism, he should be attacking the rim more.

 

[Rico444]

Did you even pay attention to the language I used because it wasn't happenstance. "not sure", "might", "seems"; does this sound like someone who has drawn any firm conclusions, suggested that he fundamentally change his game or cease to be a perimeter player entirely?

You said flat out that the kid can't shoot like DeAndre did. That was the line I was responding to; in fact, that's the line I quoted in my post, and you didn't use any qualifiers in the sentence. Also, I didn't attack you at all, so I don't appreciate being called a rockhead just because your reading comprehension is poor.

 

[Peacefrog]

You said flat out that the kid can't shoot like DeAndre did. That was the line I was responding to; in fact, that's the line I quoted in my post, and you didn't use any qualifiers in the sentence. Also, I didn't attack you at all, so I don't appreciate being called a rockhead just because your reading comprehension is poor.

I don't want to get into a pissing contest and I apologize for the name-calling. Hopefully you can see how I might be frustrated after clearly indicating I had limited information to go on and hedging everything I said against that admission I get words put into my mouth (primarily by Bruce incidentally).

As far as the sentence you originally quoted I might point out that the assertion is undoubtedly true so I'm not sure where the comprehension issue lies. Larrier was a much poorer shooter than Daniels when he left. If you want to contend that he will or can improve, fine, I wouldn't necessarily disagree and would hope you're right. I never "concluded" that he wouldn't improve. I will observe again, however, that he seemed to have a nice mid-range game and could take people off the dribble but seemed to spend a lot of time shooting threes at a very low percentage instead.

Back to lurker mode.

 

[tcf15]

I don't want to get into a pissing contest and I apologize for the name-calling. Hopefully you can see how I might be frustrated after clearly indicating I had limited information to go on and hedging everything I said against that admission I get words put into my mouth (primarily by Bruce incidentally).

As far as the sentence you originally quoted I might point out that the assertion is undoubtedly true so I'm not sure where the comprehension issue lies. Larrier was a much poorer shooter than Daniels when he left. If you want to contend that he will or can improve, fine, I wouldn't necessarily disagree and would hope you're right. I never "concluded" that he wouldn't improve. I will observe again, however, that he seemed to have a nice mid-range game and could take people off the dribble but seemed to spend a lot of time shooting threes at a very low percentage instead.

Back to lurker mode.

I think with Larrier, though, the potential is there. Shot selection should improve, yes, but I don't think he should totally abandon shooting from the perimeter (not that that's what you're arguing, I'm just saying).

Coming out of high school, at least according to Scout, perimeter shooting was considered a strength of Larrier's. And while Daniels was a great shooter in his last year here, he was awful during his freshman and sophomore years, shooting just as poorly as Larrier did last year. Larrier hit 26% last year and Daniels shot 28% over his first two years.

 

[Rico444]

I don't want to get into a pissing contest and I apologize for the name-calling. Hopefully you can see how I might be frustrated after clearly indicating I had limited information to go on and hedging everything I said against that admission I get words put into my mouth (primarily by Bruce incidentally).

As far as the sentence you originally quoted I might point out that the assertion is undoubtedly true so I'm not sure where the comprehension issue lies. Larrier was a much poorer shooter than Daniels when he left. If you want to contend that he will or can improve, fine, I wouldn't necessarily disagree and would hope you're right. I never "concluded" that he wouldn't improve. I will observe again, however, that he seemed to have a nice mid-range game and could take people off the dribble but seemed to spend a lot of time shooting threes at a very low percentage instead.

Back to lurker mode.

Fair enough, not looking to be antagonistic here either. I just didn't understand the point in comparing freshman Larrier to junior Daniels. I would agree he's likely going to be at his best slashing and attacking the rim, but just didn't want to see him lose his aggressiveness from outside the arc.