Tennessee inks a JUCO

[stwainfan]

I understand that a post juco player will also join team.

 

[connboy77]

Not to change the subject, but it seems that Tennessee Posters are more interested in softball then women's basketball these days.

 

[stwainfan]

Not to change the subject, but it seems that Tennessee Posters are more interested in softball then women's basketball these days.

If the Softball team wins next series. The team will be in the World Series.

 

[connboy77]

If the Softball team wins next series. The team will be in the World Series.

I can understand Tennessee Fans being very happy for their softball team, but isn't there an appropriate board on the Tennessee site for such discussions?

 

[arty155]

No, DD. Debth is the number of players named Deb available on the bench.

- I guess Ice was right…
Rule 10-3.1.z Technical Fouls – Substitutions/Flagrant unacceptable behavior: ‘…Debth enters the game as… the penalty for breaking the sacred Siegfried Oath*…'

* cig-freed ohaph

 

[doggydaddy]

I would expect Harrison and Graves to be in foul trouble a lot, regardless of whether they start. There just aren't a lot of options to choose from, and this team will be weak on defense and rebounding regardless if who's on the court.

You really hit the nail on the head with your two posts. No pun intended. Harrison was a fouling machine. And a freshman 6'2" post forced to play some center will struggle with fouls as well.

Williams is your best defender, but you need the offense (no matter how inefficient) from Simmons and Spani is probably your best overall offensive player.

Gonna be a tough year. Sorry my friend.

 

[doggydaddy]

I understand that a post juco player will also join team.

There is not JC post available according to the same source you are getting your info from.

The "word" is it's probably a 2012 player. It would have to be outside the top 100 as there are no posts available in that range.

Not sure what kind of contributions that player would make.

Recruiting is ugly in Knoxville.

 

[stwainfan]

I can understand Tennessee Fans being very happy for their softball team, but isn't there an appropriate board on the Tennessee site for such discussions?

There is no Softball board on the site.

 

[stwainfan]

As for rebounding Jones will help. Here are some comments from her.

 

[Vowelguy]

That is a very small lineup, also pretty weak defensively and rebounding wise, with only Williams a better than average defender IMO. I'd be pretty surprised if that lineup was used a lot.

But if you're looking at their best 5 players regardless of position, it's likely Massengale-Simmons-Spani-Graves and then either Carter or Burdick.

 

[Bestiarius]

Not to change the subject, but it seems that Tennessee Posters are more interested in softball then women's basketball these days.

Anything to take their minds off the basketball team is welcome relief. It's a feel good board and there isn't much to feel good about. It's one disaster after another, the latest being financial woes and the firing/forced retirement of revered female staff.

 

[HuskyNan]

Anything to take their minds off the basketball team is welcome relief. It's a feel good board and there isn't much to feel good about. It's one disaster after another, the latest being financial woes and the firing/forced retirement of revered female staff.

Or maybe it's the off-season for basketball and the softball is on the verge of the national championships? I think if UConn had a women's team about to do something spectacular, we'd most likely be having numerous conversations about that team, too.

I'm not comfortable kicking LV Nation while it's down, honestly. Seems to me after the year they've suffered they deserve to rejoice in the good fortunes of their softball team.

 

[connboy77]

Or maybe it's the off-season for basketball and the softball is on the verge of the national championships? I think if UConn had a women's team about to do something spectacular, we'd most likely be having numerous conversations about that team, too.

I'm not comfortable kicking LV Nation while it's down, honestly. Seems to me after the year they've suffered they deserve to rejoice in the good fortunes of their softball team.

Your getting soft Nan; if situations were reversed the vol nation fans would not hesitate to kick us when we were down. I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for them.

 

[HuskyNan]

Your getting soft Nan; if situations were reversed the vol nation fans would not hesitate to kick us when we were down. I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for them.

I don't judge my behavior against the behavior of others, I just try to do what's right. LV fans are shocked and saddened by the serious illness of a beloved coach. Making fun of all of them because of a couple sour apples is just poor in spirit.

 

[connboy77]

I don't judge my behavior against the behavior of others, I just try to do what's right. LV fans are shocked and saddened by the serious illness of a beloved coach. Making fun of all of them because of a couple sour apples is just poor in spirit.

Nan, I think that its a lot more then a couple of sour apples, but I do get your point.

 

[doggydaddy]

I don't judge my behavior against the behavior of others, I just try to do what's right. LV fans are shocked and saddened by the serious illness of a beloved coach. Making fun of all of them because of a couple sour apples is just poor in spirit.

I agree about making fun of all of them. But discussing their 2012-13 propects based on their current roster would be fair game to me. They are a great rival and are worthy of our attention. And their recruiting struggles should be a viable discussion as well.

I'm sure we would be discussing UConn's other women's team successes under the same circumstances.

 

[sarals24]

Part of the reason the UT situation is so fascinating is that it feels like the decline of an empire, and we are watching it in real time...other programs have had long term success, like LaTech, and then slowly faded away, but this was THE premier program for such a long time. Definitely of the 90s, and then second best in the 2000s...and it seems like their success was completely tied up in Pat. Not that UConn doesn't have other things to offer, but it's fairly obvious that most of the success of the program is tied to Geno. So as a fan, I am fascinated by the handling of this in terms of how it might look for UConn when Geno steps down.

I realize UT has a different situation because of Pat's illness, but there is a slight schaudenfrade to watching one's "enemies" fall from grace so spectacularly. I feel for the staff and the kids, though, because this is a very tough situation. Going from having your pick of top recruits to rejoicing when an unknown juco player signs with you can't be fun. Hence all the softball talk over there.

 

[Kibitzer]

Seems to me that Holly has the worst coaching job in America.

First she has the unenviable challenge of not only following a legend but coaching in the shadow of the legend.

The uncertainty/instability of last season has not yet completely been suppressed as they are now dealing with major changes at the AD and key assistant coach levels.

Recruiting seems to have stalled, at least for the 2013 class, thus making the 2014 class vital to the future status of the Lady Vols.

The fan base is vast, intense and accustomed to a sustained level of excellence, now understandably concerned about the slippage in recent years. Their characteristic confidence and eagerness has been replaced by visible signes of anxiety and trepidation.

The long dominance of Tennessee in the SEC is now in serious jeopardy as Kentucky and South Carolina are surging and LSU is poised to do so. Meanwhile teams like Duke and Louisville and Maryland are targeting recruits from southern states, long a happy hunting ground for the Lady Vols.

There are realistic limits to the patience of Summitteers and if next season's edition of Lady Vols basketball falters, life could become unpleasant for Holly. Should that occur (I am not wishing it), it could only magnify recruiting challenges.

As I stated at the start, I think Holly is in a terribly tenuous position and I think it is sad for her, for her team, and for wcbb.

And I hope I am mistaken in my expectations.

 

[Bestiarius]

I don't judge my behavior against the behavior of others, I just try to do what's right. LV fans are shocked and saddened by the serious illness of a beloved coach. Making fun of all of them because of a couple sour apples is just poor in spirit.

First, I recognize this board is not a democracy, and that the management can set up any rules desired. Same is true at the Summitt. In the case of this board, I think the rules are reasonable, and I appreciate that the moderators didn’t just delete my post and instead Nan explained her position. This allows us to understand the objection and modify our future behavior accordingly. It also allows us to have a say if we disagree with management’s policy. This is good for the overall health of this discussion group.

Reading the Summitt makes me appreciate the freedom we have here. Controversial topics can be discussed/debated in a rational manner within boundaries that aren’t too strict. On the Summitt, anything not pro Lady Vol is promptly deleted or criticized, not with logic, but with intolerance. This makes for boring reading with many glowing posts that are redundant and without meaningful discussion. If this board were controlled in that manner, I wouldn’t be interested in participating.

Regarding my post. This is a sports forum. Part of being a fan is furthering the rivalry with the opposition. Part of that involves championing your own team at the expense of the rival. This isn’t life and death. It just enables the fan to intensify the enjoyment of the sport. That’s why we keep score and give the trophy to the winner. I know there is a trend toward giving the trophy to every player in youth leagues, win or lose, but everyone can’t win and to deny that fact does no one a favor.

I don't think my post disrespected Pat or anyone in particular. It was just a general statement about the overall tone of the Summitt. Their problems are opportunities for others who have not experienced TNs past success. I don't believe TN's past success gives them the right to special treatment now. Plus, what sarals24 said.

 

[doggydaddy]

First, I recognize this board is not a democracy, and that the management can set up any rules desired. Same is true at the Summitt. In the case of this board, I think the rules are reasonable, and I appreciate that the moderators didn’t just delete my post and instead Nan explained her position. This allows us to understand the objection and modify our future behavior accordingly. It also allows us to have a say if we disagree with management’s policy. This is good for the overall health of this discussion group.

Reading the Summitt makes me appreciate the freedom we have here. Controversial topics can be discussed/debated in a rational manner within boundaries that aren’t too strict. On the Summitt, anything not pro Lady Vol is promptly deleted or criticized, not with logic, but with intolerance. This makes for boring reading with many glowing posts that are redundant and without meaningful discussion. If this board were controlled in that manner, I wouldn’t be interested in participating.

Regarding my post. This is a sports forum. Part of being a fan is furthering the rivalry with the opposition. Part of that involves championing your own team at the expense of the rival. This isn’t life and death. It just enables the fan to intensify the enjoyment of the sport. That’s why we keep score and give the trophy to the winner. I know there is a trend toward giving the trophy to every player in youth leagues, win or lose, but everyone can’t win and to deny that fact does no one a favor.

I don't think my post disrespected Pat or anyone in particular. It was just a general statement about the overall tone of the Summitt. Their problems are opportunities for others who have not experienced TNs past success. I don't believe TN's past success gives them the right to special treatment now. Plus, what sarals24 said.

Well stated, especially about the differences in the two boards.

I appreciate how the mods handle things here, even though I am slapped on the wrist more than once or twice for my posts. Sometimes too publicly, but I'm a big boy and can handle it.

The Tennessee situation is obviously of interest to many on this board and not so much to others. When you see a post on their board with a picture of Parker and Geno and they ask for "captions", the nastiness of what they call humor is apparent and certainly doesn't help when one is trying to be sympathetic to their situation.

 

[sarals24]

When you see a post on their board with a picture of Parker and Geno and they ask for "captions", the nastiness of what they call humor is apparent and certainly doesn't help when one is trying to be sympathetic to their situation.

Yep. reading that kind of stuff makes me appreciate our board. We could put up the exact same picture and have some choice words to say about it, but why would we? As sappy as it sounds, the Olympics are a time to come together as a nation and cheer our athletes and coaches on.

I will cheer for CP and Catchings as much as the six UConn ladies, because it just don't matter...it just doesn't matter...(to quote my favorite summer camp movie counselor of all time...)

 

[connboy77]

Yep. reading that kind of stuff makes me appreciate our board. We could put up the exact same picture and have some choice words to say about it, but why would we? As sappy as it sounds, the Olympics are a time to come together as a nation and cheer our athletes and coaches on.

I will cheer for CP and Catchings as much as the six UConn ladies, because it just don't matter...it just doesn't matter...(to quote my favorite summer camp movie counselor of all time...)

When the players put on the USA uniform it doesn't matter which university they graduated from; they are representing our country and we should all root for them.

 

[HuskyNan]

First, I recognize this board is not a democracy, and that the management can set up any rules desired. Same is true at the Summitt. In the case of this board, I think the rules are reasonable, and I appreciate that the moderators didn’t just delete my post and instead Nan explained her position. This allows us to understand the objection and modify our future behavior accordingly. It also allows us to have a say if we disagree with management’s policy. This is good for the overall health of this discussion group.

I'm not asking people to do, or not do, anything. I was simply expressing my opinion that being gleeful of others' misfortunes isn't something I'm comfortable with. And the word "glee" is used deliberately. For every post that simply discusses goings on in LVland, there's another that absolutely revels in what could be the downfall of a storied program.

Don't get me wrong - there are some LV fans (the ones still sitting in front of their mailbox, tin foil hat firmly in place, waiting for a response to their FOI request from UConn) who deserve a comeuppance but it seems like UConn fans can go out of their ways to find the oddest things to mock the other LV fans. Making fun of their interest in a possible championship team? Really?

As for the rivalry, it's faded and dim to me. I have no sports "hate" for Summitt any more and as someone said, my heart goes out to the kids in the program. Without clipboards flying and Snow glaring at UConn players, what's to dislike? UConn would paste the LVs if they played - I don't care who they sign this year. Just not feeling the rivalry right now.

 

[doggydaddy]

I'm not asking people to do, or not do, anything. I was simply expressing my opinion that being gleeful of others' misfortunes isn't something I'm comfortable with. And the word "glee" is used deliberately. For every post that simply discusses goings on in LVland, there's another that absolutely revels in what could be the downfall of a storied program.

Don't get me wrong - there are some LV fans (the ones still sitting in front of their mailbox, tin foil hat firmly in place, waiting for a response to their FOI request from UConn) who deserve a comeuppance but it seems like UConn fans can go out of their ways to find the oddest things to mock the other LV fans. Making fun of their interest in a possible championship team? Really?

As for the rivalry, it's faded and dim to me right now. I have no sports "hate" for Summitt any more and as someone said, my heart goes out to the kids in the program. Without clipboards flying and Snow glaring at UConn players, what's to dislike? UConn would paste the LVs if they played - I don't care who they sign this year. Just not feeling the rivalry right now.

As a member (at times) of the glee club, it's much more about the fans and not the teams. And 100% of those fans are message board fans. I'm sure that there are thousands of very nice LV fans out there. But the fans we are exposed to are mostly......ahhh....you know. I don't have to describe them.

So, for me, I want Tennessee to continue on their downward slide just to make those fans miserable. I have read some horrid things on that board about UConn, Geno, players and as someone that was supposedly reported to the FBI, they can't be made miserable enough for my tastes.

 

[HuskyNan]

I have read some horrid things on that board about UConn, Geno, players and as someone that was supposedly reported to the FBI, they can't be made miserable enough for my tastes.

I still think that UConn fans care way too much about what a bunch of anonymous Internet yahoos think. And I'll never understand why people continue to read that board when they know they'll be angry at what they see there. It's not for fun because there are folks here who can rake up events from 10 years ago and still experience the full impact of their righteous indignation. It's a mystery why people want to live in a constant state of agitation - seems like a waste of energy to me.