Taking a knee....

[meyers7]

Ruth Bader Ginsburg weighs in: Ruth Bader Ginsberg Calls Colin Kaepernick's Protest "Dumb"

Wow, never thought I'd see the day when I agreed with Ginsburg.

 

[Deadrody]

There is less than ZERO chance that Coach Auriemma allows any protest of any kind to happen!

I disagree with that. I don't think he'll allow individuals to protest in that way, but if the TEAM decided as a unit they were ALL going to do it ? I virtually guarantee Geno would support them. He's not going to tolerate someone or even a group of players to elevate themselves above the team. But as a team ? He'd allow it.

 

[Deadrody]

The athletes at Missouri declared that they would not play another game unless the university took a range of actions. The university caved.

Indeed. And applications to, and funding at Missouri have dropped significantly as a result. Actions have consequences.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

I could reply to that but I'd get in really really big trouble. Left -Right -Middle, the lady has overstayed her ability to do the job. (just can't help myself).

One of the curses of lifetime tenure and a politicized court, but true bug house crazy judges have always been a problem (not saying she is). A true looney who sat on the bench in the federal Southern District of New York (Manhattan) was Irving Ben Cooper and he subjected many attorneys and their clients to great abuse and injustice, yet the presiding judge, etc, etc protected him for many years. It's like the Blue Wall of silence; I call it the Black Robe Wall.

 

[diggerfoot]

My goodness, this topic still has such legs? I have not commented until now because my responsibilities to others get in the way of commenting on the Boneyard in general; that is precisely the cause for me weighing in now.

Standing for the anthem is a social custom. Failure to do so carries no penalty besides possibly being ostracized. As a social custom its purpose is to demonstrate symbolic allegiance, but in no way satisfies any responsibility a good citizen might have towards others. I stand, for I have no reason to buck social custom; I sing loudly, because I like to sing. Yet I treasure the responsible behavior I witness in citizens oh so much more than symbolic allegiance.

As I look across a stadium I know many are standing simply because it is social custom, without giving a single thought as to its symbolic allegiance. Moreover, I know that for some who stand precisely for its symbolic allegiance they demonstrate not one whit of responsible behavior towards others, beyond voting and taxes. The same can be said for "kneelers." Some who are kneeling are using convenient symbolism to substitute for more consequential responsible behavior. Then again, some "kneelers" also follow their conscious to try to improve lives of others in more substantive ways.

My concern then is not over what happens during an anthem, either standing or kneeling is rather meaningless to me in terms of what really matters for a citizenry. My concern is more over the societal reactions. Some seem to think that symbolic allegiance equates to responsible behavior, to which I would say that is misguided. Some even seem to think that symbolic allegiance is more important than responsible behavior, to which I say history has shown just how dangerous that attitude can be.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

NFL Ratings Set To Drop Again In Week 5 As NFL Downplays The Problem

Stumbled into it. Interesting read. Ad revenue give backs ... who knew? Makes sense there would be a ratings guarantee at those prices.

 

[BroadwayVa]

One of the curses of lifetime tenure and a politicized court, but true bug house crazy judges have always been a problem (not saying she is). A true looney who sat on the bench in the federal Southern District of New York (Manhattan) was Irving Ben Cooper and he subjected many attorneys and their clients to great abuse and injustice, yet the presiding judge, etc, etc protected him for many years. It's like the Blue Wall of silence; I call it the Black Robe Wall.

Regardless of the color of the wall--that just isn't the America most believe in.

digging my hole deeper!! The real issues with Federal Judges and Supreme Court judges --is the thing that should make them apolitical--they take an oath to rule via the constitution--not to change the meaning of written words and they can't be fired.

Now I'm a really old fart--so this isn't an insult to age--it's a fact of life. As one gets past 70 something of the energies drop off at an exponential rate> A study done many years ago--said that at about age 30 plus maybe 6 years--brain cells died and were not replaced at a certain rate--regardless of the rate--at 75 and beyond they must be reduced significantly. The demands of higher offices and courts are at times extraordinary--it's not a job for a kid--but is it a job for an old person ?
McCain--I would have voted for him--because of his courageous stance in Vietnam--but his age and damage to his body, and reducing energies--I couldn't. I won't speak of his decisions since--
The Judge that began this --speaks volumes about energy, stamina, and mental strength

Please this is the last of these words --or I'll have to find another site that will accept me. Please don't QUOTE THIS.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Heck, I'm 69 and most days I check in here to see what I may have said yesterday!

 

[BroadwayVa]

Except that, far from criticizing any athletes for their actions in these protests, Auriemma has consistently offered high praise. So I strongly doubt that, having praised Tina Charles, Swin Cash, and other former UConn players in the WNBA, he would then reverse himself and criticize or punish UConn players on his team today.

Another factor to consider is that black athletes he is recruiting will look closely at how he handles this issue. African-American high school athletes could very well balk at attending UConn or any other university whose coach criticizes or punishes a black athlete for taking part in a protest.

The athletes at Missouri declared that they would not play another game unless the university took a range of actions. The university caved. The WNBA caved in when the players union refused to pay the fines levied.

Wonder what lies in store for any white coach who attempts to silence black players protesting?

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That goes back to : In the early daze of Uconn building a program--Top Black players were told---don't go to Uconn they are all white.
I believe this is from a quote from Geno. Abt 2000.
If that is partly or whole true--you can see that Geno would take every step, beyond not having a color coded gene in his body, to not allow anyone to think he was not aware of issues that effect Black players.
I don't like to use the term Black player--I prefer the term Player or American player (without any hyphen)--

 

[Monte]

Hopefully then every time they do play the national anthem at games you stand up in you living room, put your hand on your heart and sing along. Or that's the last time I reply to reno tony.

Not obligated to do so if not at the event, live.

 

[j66kicker]

Here's a new twist - National Anthem SINGER takes a knee at Sacramento Kings exhibition game vs. an Israeli team...

National anthem protests now include the actual anthem performer