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Doesn't help that there's no "Friday Night Lights" high school football tradition in New England (and most of the Northeast, PA excluded). A lot of these students probably never went to a HS football game unless they played or were in the band. A winning team (and some incentives) will help cure some of that apathy, but ingrained behavior is generally tough to overcome.
 
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Build the oncampus stadium!
There are several issues with an on campus stadium:

1. Cost. How do you justify a new stadium when P&W isn't that old and is expandable?
2. Many fans will not go to Storrs for a game.
3. I'm not sure there is currently an area big enough right now that is adjacent to campus. Before Rentschler, there was talk of putting a stadium behind Northwest and North Campus. Much of that space has been used for dorms, commuter parking, and other facilities.
4. The infrastructure (roads) leading into campus cannot support 30K-40K fans. Traffic into and out of campus for 8K non-students at Gampel is a nightmare.
 
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Was Student attendance an issue the first two games? Iirc they showed up. Perhaps it was just a one off last weekend and will once again show up this weekend.
 

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There's no tradition because we're a newish FBS program, we don't have annual opponents that people have heard of and we've been dreadful for a decade...and the bus is a pain in the a.

People forget this board represents 1% of the fan base as opposed to 99%.. our reaction to the majority of fans not respond in kind to blowing out FAU and Buffalo is just a product of our echo chamber.
 
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There are several issues with an on campus stadium:

1. Cost. How do you justify a new stadium when P&W isn't that old and is expandable?
It’s doable. They can find a way. Is it necessary at this time?
AD Dave gave his thoughts regarding an on-campus stadium in this interview last week in response to a question (begins 14:10 in):
Debated where to drop this but since it has AD Dave talking - this spot will do:



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Doesn't help that there's no "Friday Night Lights" high school football tradition in New England (and most of the Northeast, PA excluded). A lot of these students probably never went to a HS football game unless they played or were in the band. A winning team (and some incentives) will help cure some of that apathy, but ingrained behavior is generally tough to overcome.
What? I live in Farmington and grew up in new Britain. The football games, even in Farmington, are a big deal. Everyone goes or at least talks about going. And the games are Friday night. Most bigger schools play Friday night.

What town in CT are you from? Itnisnt Friday night lights? But there is a decent student interest in games. They are watching their friends play.

Hell, when I was in New Britain were going to games in elementary school.
 

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There's no tradition because we're a newish FBS program, we don't have annual opponents that people have heard of and we've been dreadful for a decade
The being dreadful part is a big player but the first part you mention plays a big role too. Why do a lot of students go to the XL Center for BE games? They know the teams because we play them each year and have historical ties to some of them. Those games have some meaning.

When we first opened the Rent, we were a decent team but we played teams people knew and wanted to watch. They were fellow BE schools and even though we never really played them in FB, we knew and hated the schools and their fans because of the bball history. So beating Pitt meant a little more because it was in the midst of the back and forth BE finals battles we had with them. Beating Rutgers meant something because we hated them. Same with 'Cuse.

Right now, no one has any attachment or interest in watching FAU or Buffalo. If we eventually get into the B12, students and fans will turn out because we're playing name brand teams. We're be more prevalent on National CFB coverage. It'll be cool to be at games and watch us play an OSU, WVU, Colorado, etc.

I think our lack of consistent teams in our schedule because of no conference is hurting attendance from students as well as our miserable performance.
 

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i've seen enough P4 team stadiums with very unimpressive crowds. From what I've seen this season, only the top schools get packed houses, like what everyone else dreams of.

IMO the only way to get what you want to see, is to just. win.
It's not that complicated, but it's super hard to do - but maybe possible in this NIL era.
Here's what I think needs to happen (not necessarily in order):

  1. We need to be winning at least 80% (really 100%) of our games against low level G5 schools first - no one is going to come to the rent. Don't worry about it.
  2. Next, we need to win against better and more known opponents - think BC, Syracuse, Duke, Wake, Indiana, Northwestern, Vanderbilt. Not 1 win every 10, we need CONSISTENT wins (~70%) against these mid P4s
  3. consistently make bowl games every year, and WIN more than 50% of them.
  4. Next we need a signature win in the Jim Mora Era - think on the level of an upset vs. Ole Miss
  5. Last, we need to join the best temporary conference situation that we can negotiate football-only membership for. To me, "best" means the best group of competitive, known schools. I'd really rather stay away from CUSA and the sun belt, if we can help it. In the changing CR landscape, someone may be willing to take that uconn FB-only deal eventually. We need to consistently contend and eventually we need to WIN that conference championship. Of course, this is temporary till we get the coveted all-sports invite to a P4 conference.

These are the levels of winning to get people in seats. Don't worry about the rest.
 
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There was a student lot pre-covid. Thousands if students came to tailgate, but went back to campus when the game started.

The issue is the students don't care about the football team. We've had a lot of losses the pass 10 years, and none of these students grew up with us winning, so there is no connection or loyalty to the team. People don't like to emotionally invest in the things/people if they think they are going to get hurt. So for years students have decided not to get emotionally invested because they thought we weren't good. It is going to take more than 3 wins to get them excited about UConn football. Add to that shorter attention spans due to cell phones, and most of the students who do show up don't stay past halftime. The transportation is just an excuse for the fact that at this point, they just don't care about the team. We need to keep winning, and eventually they'll hop and the bandwagon.

I just wanted to say that I appreciate you, brotha. My son and I always look for you in the student section, and you're there every week; rain, sleet, or snow, it doesn't matter because you are there.

Keep up the fight, bro...
 

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Student Game Attendance – Root Cause Problem Solving

Rather than toss the same comments back and forth about student attendance, I figured I’d try a different approach. At work, we use “Root Cause Problem Solving” that identifies the problems, then drills down to the root causes….then brainstorms potential solutions.

Why don’t more students attend UConn football games?

Problem: Transportation.
  • North Garage to the Rent is 30 minutes per Google Maps.
  • Students without cars rely on bus transportation – poor travel experience, not fun.
  • Students with cars have to pay for parking and it’s not easy to tailgate with friends.
Solutions:
  • Make the bus ride a better experience. Music (picked by students). Merch giveaways that are worth winning (TV’s, coolers, etc). Police escort like the team bus. Athlete ambassadors on the bus (mens/women’s basketball, alums of all sports). Make the ride not “seem” as long or boring.
  • One complaint is the bus leaving and students potentially missing the ride. Maybe extend the departure time and allow for more post-game stuff? Or have early buses and later buses?
  • Section off an area right next to the stadium for free student parking. Call the student tailgate lot something like “The Pound” and let them have their own communal area. Show your ID and get access in with your car.
  • What about this? What about a camping area with a Friday night huge bonfire? Make a tent city like they do outside Gampel again, with a DJ or players/coaches bringing food. Maybe even extend the camping to RVs and trailers for non-students to make it a “weekend” type event like other schools.
Problem: Tailgating.
  • If you are on the bus, you can’t bring a cooler or grill or cornhole set.
  • If you drive yourself, you are still a student, likely don’t have a grill and it’d be lame to have 4-8 students hanging around with nothing to really eat or do.
Solutions:
  • Assemble a tailgate or “football gameday entertainment” council to specifically address this issue.
  • Sponsored food in tailgate area for students. Leverage local companies and business (Big Y, Moe’s, Bears BBQ). Minimal cost to get in ($5.00 or less), use Husky Bucks, free food if alumni or other donors can cover some/all costs. Make it good enough to be worth while.
  • Leverage matchups with food – Wings vs Buffalo, Cheesesteaks vs Temple, etc.
  • Offer eating contests for fun/prizes.
  • Come up with our own version of ESPN College Gameday.
  • Tailgate game area – cornhole, washers, etc. Offer tournaments to those interested.
  • DJ or live music acts.
  • Leverage local bars like Teds or Huskies to maybe have “Teds South” trailers or RV’s. Use their brand to generate buzz.
  • Important: Get a student council with representation from all classes, Greek life, backgrounds, ethnicities to what THEY want or would think is worth it.

    9/28 – The student section at the Rent was 85-90% empty. The men’s soccer game at 7 pm had 4400 in attendance vs a 5100 capacity at Morrone Stadium. They’re GOING to events. If the only issue is being off-campus, work with them to make it worth making the trip because right now, they clearly don’t think that it is.

  • The elephant in the room is alcohol, obviously. Alcohol in general and underage drinking (with the problems that come with all that). You’re not getting them down to games without drinking (for legal students) so that’s an item that needs to be figured out.
Hear! Hear! I love this!
 
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I am more concerned with paying customers tbh. You want 30k there. They got work to do.

I have had enough about harping on the student experience if getting to games. They have been doing it for 20 years. Students been going to XL for hoops game for 50 years.

Enough with this topic. They will come or they wont come.
Your take on this is ludicrous. Being honest doesn’t make you right. Somehow I get the feeling you really don’t like UConn students. Your viewpoint is incredibly selfish.:rolleyes:
 
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Your take on this is ludicrous. Being honest doesn’t make you right. Somehow I get the feeling you really don’t like UConn students. Your viewpoint is incredibly selfish.:rolleyes:
Love UConn students. I am an alum. I care a lot about students. I hope they go to the games.

The existential threat to the athletic department is revenue. they need to get the people with the money in. The tickets for UConn students are free (more like included). They do a lot to get students there. they should do more networking events at games.

That said, the issue with program is paid attendance, not student participation.
 
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Your take on this is ludicrous. Being honest doesn’t make you right. Somehow I get the feeling you really don’t like UConn students. Your viewpoint is incredibly selfish.:rolleyes:
Also. Why did that trigger you? Essentially, I said concentrate on getting more paying customers into the building. That is a cyclical take, yes, but there Are a lot of stakeholders out here including alumni, who make up a large portion of the fan base.

we should do adopt a student. Bring a student to your tailgate party.
 
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Love UConn students. I am an alum. I care a lot about students. I hope they go to the games.

The existential threat to the athletic department is revenue. they need to get the people with the money in. The tickets for UConn students are free (more like included). They do a lot to get students there. they should do more networking events at games.

That said, the issue with program is paid attendance, not student participation.
If you’re so concerned about revenue, and rightly so, why not support an on campus stadium? The Big 12 certainly would look upon that favorably and would more than make up any revenue short fall, with an invite, and Brett Yormark is privately saying as much. Do it the right way, show the ACC, the Big 12, and the Big Ten that UConn is serious about packing thousands of screaming students wearing Husky blue into an on campus stadium. Recruiting would also get better with an on campus stadium. Look at how UConn women’s and men’s basketball took off just a few years after Gampel was built.
 

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We drew our best crowds from 2002 to 2010, with a record of 59-40 (.597), including a stretch of 4 seasons with 8+ wins and 4 straight bowl game trips. Even in down years (2005, 2006) attendance was selling out for conference games. I remember students sticking around for these well into the 4Q. The games mattered and the team was good.

Moving the games on campus won’t get anyone to the stadium if we’re a .500 team or below. As others have pointed out in this thread, schools have attendance problems around the country. A lot of them just so happen to have losing teams too.

We cared, we won, and the students cared and stayed.
 
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The people who cry about the stadium being far make me laugh, the XL Center is even farther lol

You know what will help fill the Rent up? A winning team, just like was shown in the old BE days. This UConn team finds consistent success and we will be back to that. One, two games isn't gonna change the perception. A few seasons of success and we will be back

I think a lot of these suggestions are great and will help, but the biggest fix is just consistent, on-field success

You know what would be the perfect announcement to build upon our recent FB interest? Announce UConn to the Pac12!
The New PAC 12 is dumb and a waste to move too. I'd rather be independent.
 

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