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oldude said:
Those are their current records as of this morning, which begs the question, if UConn has a solid win over a good Marquette team tonight, what does it do to the rankings?
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If UConn wins with a meek performance over Marquette, like the last game, the margin will widen. If the margin & emphatic victory is like the first game, the difference will narrow. Can UConn retake the polling lead again before they meet? It will oscillate back & forth until they meet, but it wouldn't bother me if Stanford lost in the 2nd round.
 
Bald Huskie said:
If none of the pac12 teams played out of conference games how do we know if their rankings are legit? Oregon started in the top 10 and they proved they weren't worthy. UCONN only rose to #1 because of their performance against Tennessee and SC. Stanford lost to an unranked Colorado team, so the only way any team can be tested is against each other. Just playing conference teams should not decide who is #1, especially in this environment and the way each of the other top teams have been performing against each other. UCONN, NC State, Louisville, Texas A&M, South Carolina have played one another, and among those teams the overall #1 should emerge.
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Great point! Given the unknowns, there should be no at-large teams taken from the Pac-12, only Stanford as the automatic qualifier. That'll show 'em! Sending UCLA and Arizona to the WNIT is the only justifiable solution. Heck, while we're at it, let's just kick Stanford out of the tournament just for being so isolationist. Or better yet, make Stanford the #16 seed and put them against UConn in the 1st round.
 
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Sanka541 said:
I think in a year like this where so many games (particularly big OOC games) have been cancelled it is really hard to base things on NET. Also teams like Oregon are ranked way too highly for how they have done this year which makes Stanfords wins against them look better then they are etc.
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Oregon: That's a problem with net's programming and the PAC's lack of quality OOC games.

Net is a guide to the committee not a mandate.

In my OPINION, the committee will go "political" on this. ie UConn, and three Power 5 conference AQ's as first seeds:
1 Seeds
UConn
Stanford
SCar
NC State

2 Seeds
The next choices will be:
Maryland
Baylor
Then two Non-AQs from P-5 Conferences.
My guesses are Louisville and A&M - However, UCLA could replace one of those two.
 
I have my reservations with the NCAA concerning matters in dealing with UConn. They showed their colors with allowing incoming transfer players to Notre Dame, to play immediately, yet when it came to a UConn player transfer, it was just the reverse !
 
I’m actually surprised we’ve held on to the No. 1 overall seed this long. We played five losing teams in a row after SC-Seton Hall week, and I figured our computer ratings would plummet and A&M or Stanford would pass us In between the first and second reveals.

I‘d only really worry about the overall #1 if there were 3 dominant teams that were separated from the pack, and then you’d have to face one of them in the semis at the FF. In that scenario, the overall #1 would give you a reprieve until the finals. This year, it isn’t even clear who No. 3 will be between SC, A&M and NC State. Maybe it could be a little bummer if, say, Maryland is 7 and UCLA is 8, and then the Elite Eight game is tougher, but hard to gripe too much about that - just have to beat who you get at that point.

I’m of the mind of just let‘s have a good showing tonight and let the chips fall where they may.
 
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Wbbfan1 said:
I would rather the team face Kentucky instead of the Lady Vols for the 2nd time. Baylor with Didi Richards and her defense would cause problems.
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Yes Tenn could be very tough plus would rather face L'ville than Baylor and their defense
 
Like I have said 1000 times before. Wins in conference this year means very little as many teams played no out of conference games so who knows really what an in conference win means. Maybe Marquette is a top ten team in reality. Maybe UCLA is really a top 25. Who really knows. I know what my eye test says. Some of the Big East teams I have seen are better than some of the ranked teams I've watched. I still remember when Louisville got the #1 and UConn the #2 (of course the NCAA made sure they were in the same bracket). Who emerged to the final 4? Right.
 
Fairfield Fan said:
Charlie Creme now claims that Stanford is the top seed for the tourney due to their defeat of UCLA. How's that? Did he not have a Fox channel with which to view UConn's dismantling of Villanova?

Something smells here....

www.espn.com

Women's Bracketology: One final projection before the bracket is revealed

All 31 auto-bids are spoken for. Will UConn or UCLA be No. 1 overall? And where will the hosts be seeded?
www.espn.com
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Don't listen to him he is an idiot! They all hate Uconn and Geno ! Just win the title and shock them !
 
Zinethar said:
Like I have said 1000 times before. Wins in conference this year means very little as many teams played no out of conference games so who knows really what an in conference win means. Maybe Marquette is a top ten team in reality. Maybe UCLA is really a top 25. Who really knows. I know what my eye test says. Some of the Big East teams I have seen are better than some of the ranked teams I've watched. I still remember when Louisville got the #1 and UConn the #2 (of course the NCAA made sure they were in the same bracket). Who emerged to the final 4? Right.
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Marquette lost at home to Milwaukee. So is Milwaukee also a top 10 team? Marquette also has losses to DePaul and Seton Hall. Not much evidence to support that they're a top 10 team or anything close. An at-large team, certainly. Top 25? Maybe just barely, who knows.
 
Wbbfan1 said:
Getting the number 2 overall #1 Seed is not bad. NCAA Net Rankings have Stanford #1 with UConn #2. Massey also has Stanford #1 with a SOS of 13. UConn is #2 with a SOS of 70. IMO Stanford deserves the Overall #1
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So, does that mean Baylor is a #1 seed? According to the NET rating, they are #4, and
#3 according to Massey. Or, can we pick and chose the facts that support our case?
 
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In a season with so few important OOC games, I think relative strength of conferences games is pretty iffy and the hard bias against ACC and Big10 and Big12 is based on previous years which is suspect. The fact that Pac and SEC teams have beaten up on each other is taken as 'strength' whereas I think it points to weakness at the top.

And AQ as a determining factor between SC and TA&M is tough considering that they played head to head and SC lost. Putting SC ahead of NCSt when they lost at home to NCSt is also tough.
 
I could care less! I don't want UCONN to win the NCAA Tourney because they had an "easy pass" by playing inferior teams on their way to the National Championship.
If they are the BEST team they should be able to beat ANY team no matter when they confront them.
 
Since the beginning of the season I have felt that the best teams in the country, other than possibly UConn, were Stanford, South Carolina, and Baylor. I would now add Maryland, as they have successfully flown under the radar. Watch out for Benzan, who shoots many more 3's than Paige, and hits a higher percentage, in a tougher league.
 
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jaydee602 said:
According to Massey, here are the projected point spreads for UCONN games vs. the #1 & #2 seeds as of today:
#2 Louisville: UCONN (-10)
#2 NC State: UCONN (-10)
#2 Baylor: UCONN (-3)
#2 Maryland: UCONN (-3.5)
#1 South Carolina UCONN (-4)
#1 Texas A&M: UCONN (-10)
#1 Stanford: STANFORD (-1)
Any surprises?
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Massey currently has Stanford ranked ahead of UConn. So how would he have UConn as a favorite over Stanford?
 
Sanka541 said:
Stanford's 2 losses are to Colorado in OT and UCLA. I am not sure why a big margin of victory yesterday would suddenly have them leapfrog ahead of UConn as overall number 1?
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I'm not sure "leapfrog" if the right word. Stanford likely trailed UConn by a miniscule margin prior to their UCLA win. And their resume is a bit better than that of UConn.
 
I think Stanford may be the best team in the nation however losing to an unranked team should not be overlooked
 
stamfordhusky said:
I'm not sure "leapfrog" if the right word. Stanford likely trailed UConn by a miniscule margin prior to their UCLA win. And their resume is a bit better than that of UConn.
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Not 1 game. Stanford looked really good in the PAC tourney. They beat Oregon St, a team on par with Marquette, by 30+ and then UCLA, a team slightly ahead of Tenn, by 20.
It's close, but can easily make an argument that Stanford's total resume is stronger.
 
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Fairfield Fan said:
Charlie Creme now claims that Stanford is the top seed for the tourney due to their defeat of UCLA. How's that? Did he not have a Fox channel with which to view UConn's dismantling of Villanova?

Something smells here....

www.espn.com

Women's Bracketology: One final projection before the bracket is revealed

All 31 auto-bids are spoken for. Will UConn or UCLA be No. 1 overall? And where will the hosts be seeded?
www.espn.com
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It is the penalty UConn pays for being in a mediocre conference. The rest of the Big East probably couldn’t crack top six, maybe top eight, in PAC-12.
 
Centerstream said:
The PAC-12 Tournament Championship was on the ESPN family of networks, the Big East is on the Fox Sports family of networks, Charlie Creme works for ESPN. That's all folks.
In previous seasons, not counting 2020, in the final weeks of the season, has Charlie changed "his" Number 1 seeds without the team losing???
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I was wondering how long it would take for someone to cite the old favorite of the Creme conspiracy.

Btw, only the Pac final was on ESPN. The rest were on the PAC network, which is not owned by espn.
 
Monte said:
I could care less! I don't want UCONN to win the NCAA Tourney because they had an "easy pass" by playing inferior teams on their way to the National Championship.
If they are the BEST team they should be able to beat ANY team no matter when they confront them.
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I'm with Monte in this. There are so few teams that can match up with the handful of top teams that getting to play the best is a treat for players and fans alike. Let's play Stanford and SC and Baylor and NC State and Maryland and who ever else is a challage and see how good we are. Obviously we won't play all the best but the more the better. Talking about who is better is fine; putting it to the test infinitely better.

Ranking and seedings don't interest me all that much as a UConn fan. Most teams can take pride in breaking into the top 25 or 10, or getting a seeding that might result in one more tournament win. UConn is beyond that point. We pretty much expect we can beat anyone on a given day.

As far as ranking go, losing the occasional game that should have been won isn't much of an indicator of how good a team is. Upsets happen. Stanford wasn't suddenly a worse team because they lost to Colorado. Maybe, as we surmise about the UConn loss to Arkansas, it made them better in the long run. How a team is playing in February is much more informative that how they played in December.

We didn't get a chance to play some of the best teams in OOC games this year so let's give it a go in the NCAAs.
 
Artifact said:
I have my reservations with the NCAA concerning matters in dealing with UConn. They showed their colors with allowing incoming transfer players to Notre Dame, to play immediately, yet when it came to a UConn player transfer, it was just the reverse !
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Completely different parts of NCAA.
Transfers is determined by NCAA staff.
The committee is a group of university athletic directors.
 
visitingcock said:
Oregon: That's a problem with net's programming and the PAC's lack of quality OOC games.

Net is a guide to the committee not a mandate.

In my OPINION, the committee will go "political" on this. ie UConn, and three Power 5 conference AQ's as first seeds:
1 Seeds
UConn
Stanford
SCar
NC State

2 Seeds
The next choices will be:
Maryland
Baylor
Then two Non-AQs from P-5 Conferences.
My guesses are Louisville and A&M - However, UCLA could replace one of those two.
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A&M will DEFINITELY be a 1 or 2. I think a #1.
 
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