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Stanford Now #1 Seed? Seriously?

Vowelguy said:
A&M will DEFINITELY be a 1 or 2.
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I agree. UCONN, SC, & Stanford are locked into a #1 seed. TEXAS A&M might drop to a 2. Then it's a matter of Baylor, NC State, or Maryland moving from a #2 to a #1 seed. Louisville is the other #2 seed.
 
“Stanford's decisive win over UCLA in the Pac-12 championship game and dominance throughout the tournament is enough to make the Cardinal the No. 1 overall seed. Stanford continues to be the top-ranked team in the NET and now has six top-25 NET wins, tied for best in the country with South Carolina and Texas A&M. That results in UConn being pushed to No. 2 overall, and a win over Marquette in the Big East tournament title game on Monday won't be enough to change that.”

Not sure I disagree, but certainly lots of takes.
 
jaydee602 said:
I agree. UCONN, SC, & Stanford are locked into a #1 seed. TEXAS A&M might drop to a 2. Then it's a matter of Baylor, NC State, or Maryland moving from a #2 to a #1 seed. Louisville is the other #2 seed.
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Disagree on SC locked into a 1 seed. I think TAMU, NCSt, SC are in a battle for the last two #1s. I'd put them in that order.
 
It is funny that many of the fans of the most successful program in the history of college basketball, men’s or women’s, a program built on anyone, anytime, anywhere, would be so sensitive to seedings. IMO, there is not a team in the country they can’t beat and more than a couple that could beat them. I don’t think that will change appreciably ever again, too many good players concentrated in too few programs.
 
Fairfield Fan said:
Charlie Creme now claims that Stanford is the top seed for the tourney due to their defeat of UCLA. How's that? Did he not have a Fox channel with which to view UConn's dismantling of Villanova?

Something smells here....

www.espn.com

Women's Bracketology: One final projection before the bracket is revealed

All 31 auto-bids are spoken for. Will UConn or UCLA be No. 1 overall? And where will the hosts be seeded?
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Villanova isn't a tournament team. Stanford beat #3 seed UCLA. UCONN & Stanford were ranked so closely & Stanford passed the Huskies with a top 25 win. Beating a #8 seed Marquette won't make up the difference for UCONN.
 
Vowelguy said:
Disagree on SC locked into a 1 seed. I think TAMU, NCSt, SC are in a battle for the last two #1s. I'd put them in that order.
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Fair enough! But South Carolina was already the last #1 seed in last week's bracketology. Winning their tournament could solidify their seeding. Texas A&M losing the tournament could hurt their #1 seeding with NC State, Maryland or Baylor replacing them.
 
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jaydee602 said:
Fair enough! But South Carolina was already the last #1 seed in last week's bracketology. Winning their tournament could solidify their seeding. Texas A&M losing the tournament could hurt their #1 seeding with NC State, Maryland or Baylor replacing them.
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In the last bracket, TAMU was #3 and SC was #4.

Since then, TAMU beat SC. SC beat Georgia. Georgia beat TAMU.
Is that enough to for SC to move ahead of TAMU? I dont think so.
 
jaydee602 said:
According to Massey, here are the projected point spreads for UCONN games vs. the #1 & #2 seeds as of today:
#2 Louisville: UCONN (-10)
#2 NC State: UCONN (-10)
#2 Baylor: UCONN (-3)
#2 Maryland: UCONN (-3.5)
#1 South Carolina UCONN (-4)
#1 Texas A&M: UCONN (-10)
#1 Stanford: STANFORD (-1)
Any surprises?
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If I read Massey correctly, this morning he has the "most likely" Stanford/UCONN final score at 66-64 Stanford, with the Cardinal win percentage at 53%. (Very small, in short.) Stanford also edges UCONN (slightly) in both the current and power ratings. But this is all about match-ups, rather than ratings, isn't it? It's my sense that Stanford is/will be a difficult match-up for UCONN: just as good, if not better, defensively; deeper, and stronger up front. No Paige, obviously, but the Stanford Williams is in my view superior to the Storrs version, especially in big games, and Wilson is very good defensively (I suspect Tara would put her on Paige). On the other hand, I think SC could be a tough opponent for Stanford, which has been turnover prone at times. I'm not familiar enough with NC State and A&M to predict where either belongs in all of this, but I suspect the former may be the more difficult out of the two.
 
There are probably SEVEN teams that have an argument to be a #1 seed. If UCONN finishes as the 2nd highest #1 seed barely behind a skilled Stanford team, then that's a great feat. I hope they meet in the finals to decide the best team!
 
jonson said:
If I read Massey correctly, this morning he has the "most likely" Stanford/UCONN final score at 66-64 Stanford, with the Cardinal win percentage at 53%. (Very small, in short.) Stanford also edges UCONN (slightly) in both the current and power ratings. But this is all about match-ups, rather than ratings, isn't it? It's my sense that Stanford is/will be a difficult match-up for UCONN: just as good, if not better, defensively; deeper, and stronger up front. No Paige, obviously, but the Stanford Williams is in my view superior to the Storrs version, especially in big games, and Wilson is very good defensively (I suspect Tara would put her on Paige). On the other hand, I think SC could be a tough opponent for Stanford, which has been turnover prone at times. I'm not familiar enough with NC State and A&M to predict where either belongs in all of this, but I suspect the former may be the more difficult out of the two.
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Good analysis. But I'm not sure that Stanford is much stronger or deeper upfront vs. Liv, Aubrey, Westbrook, & Edwards. Both teams play stifling defense & their coaching preparation is flawless.. You can see why the spread is only a bucket. I think the road to the Championship Game will be tough for both teams, but I hope we get that matchup.
 
I saw the the Villanova game and loved the way we played. We are clearly ready for the big dance. However I would still make Stanford number one based on having wathed them play during the season. We will have our hands full with their bigs.
 
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HiDribble said:
I saw the the Villanova game and loved the way we played. We are clearly ready for the big dance. However I would still make Stanford number one based on having wathed them play during the season. We will have our hands full with their bigs.
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I agree! If UCONN & Stanford are even, then the Cardinal get the #1 spot due to strength of conference. But I love our Husky team's energy, confidence, & cohesiveness, especially considering their youth.
 
King Kong said:
Yes, agree. In any case, if UConn plays at its best, it might be UConn Vs Stanford for the championship. At this moment, I would take Stanford -3.
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Why would you take Stanford -3 when you can bet them at +1?
 
Vowelguy said:
A&M will DEFINITELY be a 1 or 2. I think a #1.
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I THINK SCar will be a 1 seed. I don't see the committee awarding a one seed to two SEC teams. Thus, I think A&M will be a two seed. I think NC State will be a 1-seed.

I think UCLA may drop out of the top 8 and be a 3-seed. It's either them or Louisville that falls out of the two seed. Based on yesterdays games, I think Louisville will get the nod over UCLA.

"Think" is the keyword throughout.
 
Dokey said:
It is the penalty UConn pays for being in a mediocre conference. The rest of the Big East probably couldn’t crack top six, maybe top eight, in PAC-12.
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Based on eye test I would dispute that. Marquette, DePaul, Seton Hall and maybe Nova would probably be competitive. Who knows really how good or mediocre the PAC 10 really is?
 
and one said:
I'm with Monte in this. There are so few teams that can match up with the handful of top teams that getting to play the best is a treat for players and fans alike. Let's play Stanford and SC and Baylor and NC State and Maryland and who ever else is a challage and see how good we are. Obviously we won't play all the best but the more the better. Talking about who is better is fine; putting it to the test infinitely better.

Ranking and seedings don't interest me all that much as a UConn fan. Most teams can take pride in breaking into the top 25 or 10, or getting a seeding that might result in one more tournament win. UConn is beyond that point. We pretty much expect we can beat anyone on a given day.

As far as ranking go, losing the occasional game that should have been won isn't much of an indicator of how good a team is. Upsets happen. Stanford wasn't suddenly a worse team because they lost to Colorado. Maybe, as we surmise about the UConn loss to Arkansas, it made them better in the long run. How a team is playing in February is much more informative that how they played in December.

We didn't get a chance to play some of the best teams in OOC games this year so let's give it a go in the NCAAs.
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So your saying losing to a terrible team early doesnt matter as long as ur playing well in the end of the season
 
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Newest AP poll, UConn is still #1. And big difference, 38 pts with #2 Stanford.
While #2 and #3 only 2 pts difference.

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browns said:
So your saying losing to a terrible team early doesnt matter as long as ur playing well in the end of the season
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It matters. But so does going 4-1 against the committees top 10.
All items are part of the resume and must be considered and weighed.
 
Centerstream said:
The PAC-12 Tournament Championship was on the ESPN family of networks, the Big East is on the Fox Sports family of networks, Charlie Creme works for ESPN. That's all folks.
In previous seasons, not counting 2020, in the final weeks of the season, has Charlie changed "his" Number 1 seeds without the team losing???
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Not surprised at all! As Centerstream says, Creme works for ESPN, which is not exactly a bastion of neutrality! They believe in “shaping” the news in order to get the outcome they want. They are already working on having South Carolina (their preferred team) as a number one seed over NC State! In the end though, it will make the coming UConn dominance that much sweeter. Let’s just hope that dominance starts this year rather than next. I’d just like to see the faces at ESPN if we can somehow win it this year! That would be priceless.
 
jaydee602 said:
I agree. UCONN, SC, & Stanford are locked into a #1 seed. TEXAS A&M might drop to a 2. Then it's a matter of Baylor, NC State, or Maryland moving from a #2 to a #1 seed. Louisville is the other #2 seed.
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I’m not sure why SC is given a #1 seed over Texas A&M and NC State when both those teams beat them and have better records?
 
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Cuango said:
Not surprised at all! As Centerstream says, Creme works for ESPN, which is not exactly a bastion of neutrality! They believe in “shaping” the news in order to get the outcome they want. They are already working on having South Carolina (their preferred team) as a number one seed over NC State! In the end though, it will make the coming UConn dominance that much sweeter. Let’s just hope that dominance starts this year rather than next. I’d just like to see the faces at ESPN if we can somehow win it this year! That would be priceless.
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Yes ESPN hates UConn. Lobo especially.
 
Vowelguy said:
It matters. But so does going 4-1 against the committees top 10.
All items are part of the resume and must be considered and weighed.
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First criteria should be the record and Uconn is the only team in the nation with only 1 loss and it wasn't to an unranked team
 
Fairfield Fan said:
Charlie Creme now claims that Stanford is the top seed for the tourney due to their defeat of UCLA. How's that? Did he not have a Fox channel with which to view UConn's dismantling of Villanova?

Something smells here....

www.espn.com

Women's Bracketology: One final projection before the bracket is revealed

All 31 auto-bids are spoken for. Will UConn or UCLA be No. 1 overall? And where will the hosts be seeded?
www.espn.com
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We all appreciate your passion, and UCONN's win was overwhelming. However, the Big East ( women ) is not as tough as the Pac-12, and Villanova is not the equivalent of UCLA. This year, no one saw Stanford play unless you were on the PAC-12 TV network ( I was not ). But Stanford has had great recruiting classes for several seasons, and they are a legit number one selection. To my mind, it doesn't really matter who is the "number one" number one. Stanford, UCONN and South Carolina are no brainers. Is the 4th to be NC State? In my view, it is highly likely that UCONN v Stanford will be the Big Dance final. We'll know then.
 
Cuango said:
I’m not sure why SC is given a #1 seed over Texas A&M and NC State when both those teams beat them and have better records?
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I agree! But SC was a #1 seed in last week's bracketology & since then, they won the SEC tournament. So they are probably locked in as a #1 seed.
 
Dokey said:
It is the penalty UConn pays for being in a mediocre conference. The rest of the Big East probably couldn’t crack top six, maybe top eight, in PAC-12.
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I have to disagree. Arizona, I believe, would have a hard time with Marquette or DePaul (the pre slump DePaul). Az is my hometown team and has made amazing progress under Aria Barnes, but let’s face it, their shooting is just awful, they rely way too much on a 5’6”
volume shooter, their assists rate is just sad, and they have a hard time rebounding. If they happen to have a hot shooting night, yes, they can be pretty formidable. That doesn’t happen too often, however.
 
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