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Aside from Ollie's baffling decision to bench Adams for the second half (he may have had a good reason, I wasn't there), I did not come away from Thursday's game with much to complain about in regards to coaching. In fact, quite the opposite - this coaching staff doesn't get nearly enough credit for the job they do scouting and game-planning. Our streak of holding opponents to 40% or less from the field can be attributed in large part to the fact that our players are so well versed in knowing the tendencies of opposing players. They know where the primary relieve valves are, who they can leave open, how they can navigate a particular screen, when to double the post, etc. In my opinion, it's one of the best scouting staffs in the country (the 2014 tournament is as finely scouted and planned a stretch as you will find), and frankly, Temple took the shots we wanted them to take. Sometimes, a player that is not a good shooter hits a string of shots. That happened with Dingle. And sometimes, a really good player hits difficult shots against tough defense. That happened with DeCosey. To explicate anything incriminating about the coaching staff on the basis of those events is incorrect, IMO.

I'm not typically the type that is going to assign romantic meaning to the solitary events of a basketball game, but if you want the truth, I question whether a few of the guys on this team have enough dog in them. I wonder if when it's time to raid the village, break some glass and take prisoners if a couple of the guys on the team have second thoughts. Rodney Purvis has the physical gifts, the work ethic, and the character to be a great college basketball player. He seems like a great kid, a great representative of the University, and obviously he's a huge part of the team. But there are recurring moments of amazement with him in which he has trouble doing some of the things that any basketball player past the age of ten should not have trouble doing. I've literally never seen a player double-dribble, in that spot, completely unguarded. I've never seen a player miss so many open layups and I've never seen a player step out of bounds so many times. Amida Brimah and Phil Nolan and, to a lesser extent, Daniel Hamilton are hardly exonerated in that respect, either.

I'm under no delusions that I'm any sort of couch titan in comparison. Playing on national TV, with your future professional fate in the balance, cannot be easy. Road games amplify that X3 and when it's crunch-time I don't even know how some of these kids breathe. You look at the current roster, though, and you don't see Shabazz Napier, Ryan Boatright, or Kemba Walker. It isn't just the player you don't see, it's the personality, the spirit that they were indestructible. And that's OK. A lot of players don't have that, but that's also the type of player this program has been built on, and the only current player that seems to have that demeanor is a freshman.
 

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This still doesn't excuse being on course to miss the Big Dance two years in a row. As far as JC goes, I get the impression Ollie doesn't ask JC for mentoring and JC stays out of the way.

How do you know this? Specifically in regards to the offseason? Where does this come from?
 
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I get the impression you're just throwing crap at the wall and hoping it sticks.
It's fair. I was going to say I had nothing concrete to go off, just speculation. Other than the emphasis on defense, their coaching styles are very different. JC was an absolute master of working refs, a skill that clearly hasn't been imparted on KO. As far as being on course to miss the dance again this year, neither of you can honestly disagree as of today, can you? It's looking like win the AAC Tournament or bust.
 
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It's fair. I was going to say I had nothing concrete to go off, just speculation. Other than the emphasis on defense, their coaching styles are very different. JC was an absolute master of working refs, a skill that clearly hasn't been imparted on KO. As far as being on course to miss the dance again this year, neither of you can honestly disagree as of today, can you? It's looking like win the AAC Tournament or bust.
Yes, that second part about being on course to miss the NCAAs, is very easy to disagree with. UConn is nowhere close to the bubble at the moment.
 

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It's fair. I was going to say I had nothing concrete to go off, just speculation. Other than the emphasis on defense, their coaching styles are very different. JC was an absolute master of working refs, a skill that clearly hasn't been imparted on KO. As far as being on course to miss the dance again this year, neither of you can honestly disagree as of today, can you? It's looking like win the AAC Tournament or bust.

I'm going to make my decision based on whether or not we will make the tourney independent of the histrionics and panicking that occur here. Among the pundit community and in terms of the metrics, it's not a clear consensus.

Every year at the beginning of the year, people think we can win the title. And every year, during our midwinter slump people think we're dead dogs. I'm not going to ride the wave.
 
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I'm going to make my decision based on whether or not we will make the tourney independent of the histrionics and panicking that occur here. Among the pundit community and in terms of the metrics, it's not a clear consensus.

Every year at the beginning of the year, people think we can win the title. And every year, during our midwinter slump people think we're dead dogs. I'm not going to ride the wave.
I definitely applaud the optimism. I was pretty bullish recently as well, the Temple game just took a lot out of me. To get back on track of this thread, I hope we retain Ricky but make a change or two to the staff, specifically to bring in someone to coach the big men after this season.
 
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You keep bringing up this "decent shooter" argument. Any decent shooter would be hitting more than 21% in games, whether they are contested or not.

Not to mention that, if the guy had only taken 33 three-pointers, they were probably all wide open. Obviously this isn't a guy who is forcing shots from long-range.
 

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The biggest problem with this team is we do not have a top flight point guard. No one to take control at the end of games, hence the panic. That presence can only be coached up so much. Either you have it or you don't. I live in Terp Country & during Turgeon's first 3 years they lost tons of close games didn't make the tournament & they all wanted him fired. Melo Trimble shows up & they were co-big ten champs & a 3 seed last year. A friend of mine was at a Md open practice & Turgeon pointed to Melo & said, all of a sudden, I learned how to coach. Ollie knew this last August when he was looking for the Alpha Dog. He hasn't found him yet. Hopefully, the Adams/Gilbert combo will be the answer.
 
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The coaching has been a big problem for 2 years now.

KO deserves to coach his own recruits, and has at least 2 years beyond this one to prove he's the right guy long-term. But he will be on notice if this season continues the way it has, with two big disappointments in a row.

The rest of the staff needs a shake-up. This "all in the family" coaching staff is a cute look and maybe it fits the "family" storyline we pitch to recruits. But I'm not convinced the guys we have now add a G-D thing when it comes to
1) recruiting
2) player development
3) in-game tactics

Recruiting was a concern for some time, but KO -- essentially on his own -- seems to have righted the ship.

The bigs, plainly, have not significantly improved during KO's tenure. Because of the horrific recruiting, none of the bigs we have (Nolan, Facey, Brimah) were going to morph into Olajuwon. But after 3 or 4 years, we should have seen much more than we have.

It's become cliche to say it, but we need to bring in an assistant who can challenge, instill toughness in, and improve the skills of our bigs. We're not going to be recruiting the Jahlil Okafors and Karl-Anthony Townses of the world. If we can't develop bigs, our frontcourt will always be a weakness.

Whatever Glen Miller is supposed to be providing here, in terms of big-man coaching, game-planning, and strategy, it's not cutting it.

Karl Hobbs may be past his expiration date as well.
Have you ever even been near a practice? You don't have a clue whether these guys can coach or not.
 
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I definitely applaud the optimism. I was pretty bullish recently as well, the Temple game just took a lot out of me. To get back on track of this thread, I hope we retain Ricky but make a change or two to the staff, specifically to bring in someone to coach the big men after this season.

I'm good with this as long as we bring some big men in to coach. Steve will need a coach to help him but he seems to be learning little by little anyway, it takes time for some big men. Others just never get it.
 
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I'm good with this as long as we bring some big men in to coach. Steve will need a coach to help him but he seems to be learning little by little anyway, it takes time for some big men. Others just never get it.

Which of our coaches would you like to fire in order to appease your suspicion that bigs would be better developed under someone else?
 
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Which of our coaches would you like to fire in order to appease your suspicion that bigs would be better developed under someone else?

I honestly do not believe the coaches on this staff have anything to do with why a couple of these guys haven't gotten better. It's the players themselves who haven't matured in the instincts of the game as well as the physicality of their position. If we watch Steve E in the next couple of years I believe he will prove it's not the coaches, it's the kid himself.

I like the staff, not sure why they missed some things like plays out of TO's, taking TO's in strategic parts of games, knowing who to be sure the players aren't fouling on the other team at the end of games things like that. Are they not noticing or is KO just not listening? Not sure enough to say who's not doing their job to critique any of them.
 
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Kids who have basketball instinct, talent, and listen to what their coaches tell them improve. Miss any one of those 3 things and it's a formula to blame coaches when performance is not there.
 
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The coaching has been a big problem for 2 years now.

KO deserves to coach his own recruits, and has at least 2 years beyond this one to prove he's the right guy long-term. But he will be on notice if this season continues the way it has, with two big disappointments in a row.

The rest of the staff needs a shake-up. This "all in the family" coaching staff is a cute look and maybe it fits the "family" storyline we pitch to recruits. But I'm not convinced the guys we have now add a G-D thing when it comes to
1) recruiting
2) player development
3) in-game tactics

Recruiting was a concern for some time, but KO -- essentially on his own -- seems to have righted the ship.

The bigs, plainly, have not significantly improved during KO's tenure. Because of the horrific recruiting, none of the bigs we have (Nolan, Facey, Brimah) were going to morph into Olajuwon. But after 3 or 4 years, we should have seen much more than we have.

It's become cliche to say it, but we need to bring in an assistant who can challenge, instill toughness in, and improve the skills of our bigs. We're not going to be recruiting the Jahlil Okafors and Karl-Anthony Townses of the world. If we can't develop bigs, our frontcourt will always be a weakness.

Whatever Glen Miller is supposed to be providing here, in terms of big-man coaching, game-planning, and strategy, it's not cutting it.

Karl Hobbs may be past his expiration date as well.
I'll say it again... Clyde Vaughn.
 
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I'll say it again... Clyde Vaughn.

By the way Marty just busting balls. I would love Clyde back and he's probably done his time if he's been good boy and deserves to work again. Just too many variables in the rehire as we know, negative recruiting etc etc - it's unfortunate. In this case both he and Earl did wrong and both are on the path of doing more right and good for them.
 

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Seems like a lot of the same individuals who cried that KO and the coaching staff can't recruit and need to go outside the family are now making the same argument about coaching.

Probably a good number of these same people felt JC could never recruit a decent five (donut arguments) and JC could never win the big one.

Given the history of the Boneyard getting it wrong, I'm going long on the coaching staff.
 

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Let's bring in Clyde for the bigs and Earl Kelley for the guards. Can anyone say Louisville?

Throw Heidi Fleiss in there as the DPR (Director of Player Recreation) and you've got something.
 

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By the way Marty just busting balls. I would love Clyde back and he's probably done his time if he's been good boy and deserves to work again. Just too many variables in the rehire as we know, negative recruiting etc etc - it's unfortunate. In this case both he and Earl did wrong and both are on the path of doing more right and good for them.

After the Louisville thing, Clyde's dead to a program like UCONN. Can't associate even if we wanted to.
 

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Let's count the championships. KO-1 asst., 1 HC, GMiller- 2 asst., KHobbs- 3 asst., A10 coach of the year 05-06, RMoore- 1 player, 1 asst., KFree- 1 player, 1 asst. Off with their heads.
 
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Let's count the championships. KO-1 asst., 1 HC, GMiller- 2 asst., KHobbs- 3 asst., A10 coach of the year 05-06, RMoore- 1 player, 1 asst., KFree- 1 player, 1 asst. Off with their heads.

I don't think we should start firing people, but this is a pretty terrible argument.
 
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I wouldn't want to lose Ricky either since he seems to be a pretty strong recruiter down south. But the 2nd part is utterly meaningless. Ted Williams is arguably the greatest hitter in history and he was a terrible manager. We have a staff of heady point guards and our guards make hideous decisions. On the converse, we also have a staff of pass first, non-shooting point guards and a max effort undersized PF and our offense is embarrassing. I have no idea what each assistant brings to the table as a coach. It's impossible to know. If there's someone out there who can improve our team, then UConn loyalty, I'm sorry, should not factor in.
Interesting analogy & I was about to call on the all-timer Ted Williams comp, but thinking about it more it actually is relevant. While Ted couldn't manage, he could instruct or at least educate on the science of hitting and was a great resource for other great hitters. So likewise Ricky could be invaluable for teaching defense, however he isn't necessarily skilled at the big picture or more specifically at coaching offense.
So I think its likely that UConn needs a new offensive coordinator type coach and also a player development specialist. Very hard to find these types and to potentially dismiss loyal friends that are Husky family. Arguably change could be result of AD pressure on KO or even athletic director's job to suggest/mandate these changes.
 
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By the way Marty just busting balls. I would love Clyde back and he's probably done his time if he's been good boy and deserves to work again. Just too many variables in the rehire as we know, negative recruiting etc etc - it's unfortunate. In this case both he and Earl did wrong and both are on the path of doing more right and good for them.
I don't know either personally. I do know the patriots are a great example of presenting a team first mentality and bringing in 'troubled' souls with the understanding they have 2 strikes. It's worked.
If Clyde has stayed out of trouble and has been clean I think it could be managed in a message. If nothing else, is there a better message about what his missteps and poor decisions have cost him? It could be a legal issue for him to be a state employee?
 
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