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St. John's Post Game Thread

Lefty2one said:
Yeah that was all my point was re: being a soph. At the time Hawkins entered the draft compared to where Mullins is now.

Hawkins was streaky too but I dunno, plus he shot 50% from deep in the '23 tournament. Biggest stage and top competition and he showed up.

Their freshman years don't compare, for sure, and Mullins is easily the better prospect. The fact that he is so streaky and so weak gives me pause at this point. Make a few million in Storrs next year vs rotting in the G League. If he were a true lights out shooter then sure, go ahead, but he's simply not one yet.
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I understand it would be good he would return and work on getting stronger but no way he is passing up 1st round money now. I just don't see it happening even with NIL around.
 
3rdbass said:
I understand it would be good he would return and work on getting stronger but no way he is passing up 1st round money now. I just don't see it happening even with NIL around.
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Maybe. Different sports, obviously, but Dante Moore turned down being the #2 pick to return to Oregon.
 
BFieldHusky said:
This is all that matters now.

St. John's is not a good matchup for us. And if we shoot 3/19 from 3, we aren't beating anyone. Look at Marquette next week.

It's a new season now. Get Silas and Stewart healthy this week. Onto Philly...
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The bigger question is, why do we keep shooting 3/19 from three? Our offense couldn't generate any clean looks tonight, and our shooters have been in slumps for several games (or in Solo's case, the entire season).
 
John said:
Not going to give up on the team, but disappointed they have such a gaudy record and didn’t walk away with a conference or conference tournament championship this season.
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Why because their effort (poor at best) deserves unending loyalty.
 
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Scottobot said:
The problems with this team were exposed in January and it is really disappointing they haven’t been able to make any adjustments or improvements.

1. Can’t inbound the ball
2. Sloppy lazy passes and become TOs.
3. Jacking up quick threes on a key possession where they really need a basket.
4. Lack of focus and sense of urgency (unless they just lost a game)

All 4 of these seem like correctable problems yet the team has made no improvement
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#1 still don’t understand why Alex is the only one that is allowed to inbound the ball just get it in

#3 has killed momentum in so many games all year. Had teams on the ropes in a number of games and a quick jacked killed the momentum lead to a quick run out for the other team that let them back in.
 
Dove said:
Sheeeeyit. Was out with Mrs Dove looking forward to a Sunday morning watch. It must have been excruciating.

I still think there is an NCAA run coming. Final 8 at least.
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Its okay Dove..we”ll give you a pass just this one time.
 
TheShot1990 said:
He’s a great player but if you think he was the best player on the floor tonight, that’s delusional. He will be in the NBA but he’s not ready yet.
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Best player on the floor? No. If I was an nba gm, there wasn’t a player I’d want more. Braylon Mullins is an elite talent. The UConn system, much like Steph, holds him back.
 
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campcalhoun2009 said:
System gets “exposed” when you get to hold and tackle our off ball motion and the refs decide they don’t want to enforce the rules of the game of basketball for some boomer idea of “tough nosed Big East play” nonsense.

Luckily that only happens in Big East play.
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We shall see. This seems to be a soothing theory. We'll see how real it is soon.
RashadRay11 said:
What about the other 7 losses that year?
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Hold any water?
 
TheShot1990 said:
He’s a great player but if you think he was the best player on the floor tonight, that’s delusional. He will be in the NBA but he’s not ready yet.
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Sure, Who cares. He was, by far, the best NBA prospect on the court tonight. At worst mid round pick in first round. If “ready” meant anything, college seniors would dominate the first round
 
3rdbass said:
I understand it would be good he would return and work on getting stronger but no way he is passing up 1st round money now. I just don't see it happening even with NIL around.
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I think you have to look at the math. This year is a deep draft, so Mullins will probably be a late 1st round pick. The difference between being picked 10th vs 20th is ~$2 million per year for 3 years. From a monetary and development standpoint, it might make sense for Mullins to come back, but that is his decision.
 
Just was a bad game that St. John's take it too UConn at the beginning and just never were able to get their footing and that is being nice. Too many bad defenses lapses and the offense was all over the place. Nothing from the guards really hurt.
 
RashadRay11 said:
What about the other 7 losses that year?
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Danny realized he was using Andre sub optimally. He moved Andre to the baseline and teams had no answer for it. We need more athletic DUDES like that. Guys like Andre, Castle, Freeman types that are some combination of athletic, big, physical guys that can defend, get rebounds, get in the passing lanes, run opponents off the three point line, block shots, etc. A team needs at least 2-3 of those guys to play with the highly skilled guys. You need toughness and athleticism too. You need rim protection.
 
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campcalhoun2009 said:
This game just doesn’t matter for anything next week.

Wipe the slate clean and now we get to play real basketball instead of Big East trash.

Will be nice to get to run an offense without getting mauled for 40 minutes while the stripes swallow their whistles
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Icehawk said:
I mean, was this result really all that shocking? StJ is physical, has a chip on their shoulder, care about the BET way more than we do, etc, etc. So while I don't like the result I'm not too surprised, and guess what? This wasn't the NCAAs.

Deep breath. NEXT.
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Love our team but I am not sure you can say we do not care about the BET as much as others. Hurley has nice bonuses to win the league and they spend 80 percent of their games played in league
We lost and will find the right rotation going forward. — more Ross for Ball and perhaps get Riebe for AK and give him some time with Reed.
 
I will just say this once for people who haven't sat though countless NBA drafts.

The NBA draft is about potential not performance. That is why most of the first rounders are 20 years old or younger.

That is why Mullins will be highly desired. He has a perfect jump shot and a lightning release. He is 6'6". He moves well. His potential will be obvious to NBA GMs.
 
Talk about momentum killers. We were down by 9? AK inbounds to Reibe who quickly gives it back to him, and somehow he's not looking, it bounces off his chest and SJU recovers and scores. And then they steal the next inbounds and convert.

Befuddling that our senior captain makes this type of braindead error. He's praised as a high IQ guy... How can you not expect your center not to return you the ball?
 
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Palatine said:
I will just say this once for people who haven't sat though countless NBA drafts.

The NBA draft is about potential not performance. That is why most of the first rounders are 20 years old or younger.

That is why Mullins will be highly desired. He has a perfect jump shot and a lightning release. He is 6'6". He moves well. His potential will be obvious to NBA GMs.
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Exactly this. NBA scouts aren’t going to look at Mullins like some UConn fans look at him, and say because he was bad against St John’s he’s plummeting down their board. That’s not at all how it works.
 
TheHorde said:
Danny realized he was using Andre sub optimally. He moved Andre to the baseline and teams had no answer for it. We need more athletic DUDES like that. Guys like Andre, Castle, Freeman types that are some combination of athletic, big, physical guys that can defend, get rebounds, get in the passing lanes, run opponents off the three point line, block shots, etc. A team needs at least 2-3 of those guys to play with the highly skilled guys. You need toughness and athleticism too. You need rim protection.
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Sounds like Colben Landrew
 
TheHorde said:
Danny realized he was using Andre sub optimally. He moved Andre to the baseline and teams had no answer for it. We need more athletic DUDES like that. Guys like Andre, Castle, Freeman types that are some combination of athletic, big, physical guys that can defend, get rebounds, get in the passing lanes, run opponents off the three point line, block shots, etc. A team needs at least 2-3 of those guys to play with the highly skilled guys. You need toughness and athleticism too. You need rim protection.
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Funny how we lost 8 games that year and were a 4 seed. I don’t recall 15 pages and counting on how bad we suck and have no tournament potential.
 
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