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How Sway?! said:
Hopefully this stops all the "No team will want to see us on their side of the bracket" posts.
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I'm starting to think that too. Unless we dominantly tear through the BE tournament, I don't think teams will be afraid of us and be more likely to lick their chops for the opportunity to take down a vulnerable UConn team.
 
3rdbass said:
I know he is probably gone but he is showing that he can be physically overmatched and that will only get worst in the NBA were the players are quicker and stronger. His outside shot hasn't looked as good too. Just a little worrisome. Maybe he hasn't totally recovered from his high ankle sprain. Too bad there is no one who can really spell him to give some time off during the game.
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This is crazy talk
 
3rdbass said:
I know he is probably gone but he is showing that he can be physically overmatched and that will only get worst in the NBA were the players are quicker and stronger. His outside shot hasn't looked as good too. Just a little worrisome.
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To be fair, this is what I expected from him coming off the injury. I’ve said it before but that high ankle really messes with shooters. It’s the equivalent of a shoulder for a pitcher - the mechanism from which everything happens. You lose your lift and then everything else is out of whack. Then he somehow pulled off that 38 point game out of muscle memory - but has come back down to earth. It’s like that first day you play golf after you haven’t played and you randomly hit it great, but then the second or third time reality sets in

He did look badly swallowed up around the rim today and looked weak trying to squeeze shots off in traffic, which would have me a bit worried as a scout. The athleticism doesn’t exactly go down at the next level. But the shooting problems wouldn’t worry me at the moment and a more spread out floor could help a little with finding space.
 
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This team reminds me of the 2020 thru 2022 team. The Championship teams never missed at the rim. This team misses a lot of layups.
 
While our guys on this team are considerably bigger, when they drove into the paint, I consistently had the feeling I was watching Alterique and Gaffney get lost in a forest of larger men. I think 4 of AK's 6 TOs were losing it on drives. Even Liam couldn't get in there.
 
It's quite simple if McNeeley and Ball don't play well we have no chance, that allows AK to be the 3rd guy also not being an unforced turnover machine would help.
 
aceboon said:
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Obviously not happening now but he was on the preseason lists
 
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Very disappointing game today. Not because we lost, but the way we played. At no time did it feel like UConn had a chance to win.

Very disappointed in Hurley's coaching, recruiting & player development this year. His whole demeanor seemed to change with the Lakers/New Contract news cycle. He didnt seem hungry (just angry) at any point this year, and it reflected on the team.
 
I forgot the game was on but I’m happy for Pitino. He has built something special. If we can’t win this year, we should root for the Johnnies. A title game of Duke and St. John’s would be epic.
 
Fishy said:
St. John’s is miles better.

We’re slow, not remotely athletic enough, weak in the middle and we play positionless basketball in that no one is good at any particular position.

SJU has three kids that would start at point for UConn right now.
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LOL.
 
ctbro1999 said:
When we had Nowell, Ball, Mahaney, McNeeley and Karaban on the floor (i think) I thought to my self " this is the smallest lineup I've ever seen".
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We rolled with Bazz-Boat-Kromah-Giffey-Daniels down the stretch in the final four. Closest I can think of.
 
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BlueWolf25 said:
I echo this completely. I love AK too but man that just was not winning basketball from him today. It felt like he couldn’t catch a single pass or rebound today even if it was placed perfectly in his hands. The last two years his IQ and 3 point shot were all we needed because he was surrounded by stud athletes. This year his lack of athleticism is getting majorly exposed because the supporting cast isn’t there, he was getting destroyed defensively and on the glass today
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Agreed. AK is fantastic as a complement piece. He is not good enough to be a go-to option, plain and simple. Perhaps most unfortunately, he has shown he is not an NBA player this year. He is too slow and poor on defense and off the dribble, and too inconsistent as a shooter.

Don't even get me started on how bad he has been in big moments this year either....
 
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superjohn said:
I'm excited about our recruiting class but I'm not seeing the strength/athleticism in them. Braylon has the athleticism and quick twitch but he's pretty slight. Question marks with the other guys.
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Agreed, I think those guys are likely to be guys coming in off the bench as role players their freshman year, maybe even Mullins. I wanted him starting at the 3 but if Karaban is back we're going to need to recruit a big PG and a big wing to start at the 3
 
I’m skipping ahead so I don’t know what’s been mentioned but—Reed should have remained in the game. We were on a run, why pull him?

Nowell belonged today. He did more good than bad and was handling pressure no problem. I would have let him go and hoped this game was his coming out party. He went to the bench and we never saw him again that I recall. We also turned the ball over like crazy without him.

Why doesn’t Stewart attempt to score more? Give him a green light, we are desperate here.

Liam is not a pg. He’s a helper. Creighton was an isolated incident.

SJU was bigger, faster and stronger. Whatever Pitino is doing, watch closely. He put together a roster of pitbulls. We should have no problem crushing him in the portal era yet here we are all finesse getting beaten to death physically.

Dan is a fighter. He’ll learn from this season, but for now, he should let Reed play and give Nowell some on the job training. It can’t hurt.
 
Hoophound said:
I’m skipping ahead so I don’t know what’s been mentioned but—Reed should have remained in the game. We were on a run, why pull him?

Nowell belonged today. He did more good than bad and was handling pressure no problem. I would have let him go and hoped this game was his coming out party. He went to the bench and we never saw him again that I recall. We also turned the ball over like crazy without him.

Why doesn’t Stewart attempt to score more? Give him a green light, we are desperate here.

Liam is not a pg. He’s a helper. Creighton was an isolated incident.

SJU was bigger, faster and stronger. Whatever Pitino is doing, watch closely. He put together a roster of pitbulls. We should have no problem crushing him in the portal era yet here we are all finesse getting beaten to death physically.

Dan is a fighter. He’ll learn from this season, but for now, he should let Reed play and give Nowell some on the job training. It can’t hurt.
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I really don't see it, and him going to the line in the first half and looking like Shaq is kinda indicative of where his confidence is.
 
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FreeKlaiber said:
you're right, Pitino doesnt know his X and O's.

All I said, was he's the among best game planners and x and o coaches to EVER do it (I added the bold this time). (ps- x and o's also describes defensive assignments, and trapping, mid-range quick hitters, out of bounds plays, how they designed to kick it directly to corner for open 3 when we run high hedge rotation early etc). Aren't many better i've seen in last 40 yrs., independent of how he runs a program.

My punctuation on here is bad, but your post seems kinda gibberish?
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Your first sentence is a lie, because I never said he wasn’t a good coach or didn’t know X and O’s.
I said St, John’s outworked and outdefended us today and it was their superior athleticism and effort not some elaborate game plan drawn up by Pitino that was the reason today. His NIL talent was better than ours. Not hard to understand.
 
How Sway?! said:
Hopefully this stops all the "No team will want to see us on their side of the bracket" posts.
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I still think this may be true. As a program, March has been different than the regular season. This wasn't a good loss, it was pretty bad. It actually felt a lot like the reg season Louisville losses during that title run. But in march things were different.

I know this isn't that same team, but UConn's success in March, even with flawed teams, is hard to dispute.
 
navery12 said:
Agreed, I think those guys are likely to be guys coming in off the bench as role players their freshman year, maybe even Mullins. I wanted him starting at the 3 but if Karaban is back we're going to need to recruit a big PG and a big wing to start at the 3
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Yep, we're on the same page. We need that big proven point guard and need a proven 3. That also won't be it, I think we're going to see something like 4 new faces next season in addition to the freshman. I'm very high on Mullins, he's an even better shooter than Liam and more explosive than Liam but Liam has a significantly bigger frame and came from the best high school team ever assembled.
 
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