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Hurley is such a blah in-game coach. We can't stop dribble penetration, especially with these stupid schemes. We have no guards who can get to the stripe.

I'm still processing just how bad Newton is. Year 5 under Hurley and we still haven't found a real point guard.

38 minutes from Newton & Jackson: 2 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists. That's not going to cut it.
 
HuskyBaggins said:
The officiating was trash overall, if they called the foul on the rebound grapple between Clingan and Jones, Clingan wouldn't have had to throw the elbows that started the whole thing. But that's irrelevant. This team flat out STUNK today. Officiating had nothing to do with it.
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It was tied at the half. Everyone knows Clingan changes the game in a huge way. Yes, they stink without Clingan. With him? maybe it's a game. Maybe.
 
USNavyDog said:
When Uconn has their rematch later this year against St Johns at Madison Square Garden....they better use the 2-3 zone and have Sanogo and Clingan on the floor together because St. John's is a horrible outside shooting team. They could've used that game plan today and practically guaranteed themselves a win.
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Yeah no idea why we didn't do that and play the bigs together. That was the only way were gong to beat St. John's today. Having Samson Johnson as an extra big on the bench will help play bigger. Sanogo really isn't much of a defensive presence when in there at Center.
 
husky429 said:
Everyone and their brother knew SJU can't shoot but drives the ball relentlessly. The answer from the tip was NOT to drape ourselves all over 25% 3 point shooters.

It was worse that we decided to keep draping ourselves all over crappy 3 point shooters for the first 30 minutes of the game without an adjustment.

Perhaps even worse, a 1-3-1 zone. Not running a pack of some kind. Not a 2-3 zone. We played literally the only zone that DOESN'T defend the rim.

It was pathetic. I'm sitting here with an old AAU buddy from my eybl days and he's laughing at just how bad our coach was today.

Our players did not step up to the play today, of that there is no doubt. But I can't expect perfection from flawed 20-year-olds. I DO expect a much better effort from our coaching being paid 4 million a year to coach a stupid game.

I said at the beginning of the season, the only thing that matters to me is the BET and the NCAAT, and I'm sticking by that. But I'm not feeling very good right now.
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You are spot on @husky429. I think UConn should incorporate a 2-3 zone for parts of the game going forward. How long can we keep getting beat off the dribble and then fouling until we realize we are not a good perimeter defensive team. Hurley's too stubborn to it so I won't hold my breath.
 
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No defense, couldn’t buy a basket, and for the love of god…does ANYONE know how to drive to the rim outside of Hawkins?
 
Lefty2one said:
Hurley is such a blah in-game coach. We can't stop dribble penetration, especially with these stupid schemes. We have no guards who can get to the stripe.

I'm still processing just how bad Newton is. Year 5 under Hurley and we still haven't found a real point guard.

38 minutes from Newton & Jackson: 2 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists. That's not going to cut it.
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We had one for the last 2 years and he was a first team All big east.
 
Diarra, Hawkins, Jackson, Karaban/Sanogo, Clingan

For offense, starting lineup, and any lineup with Sanogo at the 5, is the easiest to scout for multiple reasons.

Our starting lineup, and any lineup with Sanogo at the 5, is the worst on the defensive end.

Sanogo is not a defender, and since our guards can’t keep their guy in front of them, we need Clingan to patrol the paint and clean everyone’s mess up. Similarly like Thabeet did in ‘09, granted that was a defensive style.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
Sorry, that doesn't make sense.

It's not like we brought in Newton, a star at ECU, and Hurley coached him to become what he is here. Bad take, IMO.

He just isn't the right fit for what we need at the point guard position. We need dogs. He's not a dog.
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Then why did we bring him in?

Under Hurley we’ve seen the worst PG play since the 90s and it’s year 5. At some point it’s not the players, it’s him.
 
Great game Hawkins and Karaban. The only guys that wanted to play basketball today. Hawkins 30 piece (despite 7TO) and Karaban with 16 and great effort every play

Sanogo’s box score was good (14/10 on 66%) but was again lost on defense far too often and made bad decisions when the double came. At one point the crowd was BOOING him when he held the ball in the post without making a move while SJU walked into their double team

Everybody else that I didn’t name had 13 points on 3-20 shooting and 19 fouls. And that includes 2 garbage time threes from Joey in the last 90 seconds when we went down 16.

The only thing St Johns is good at is scoring near the hoop, and they are horrible shooters. This game they shot 15% from three and 62% from the line. I’m trying really hard to think of any reason why we let them keep walking to the hoop for layups with no defensive adjustments, but I can’t.

Sure, bench Newton. Certainly deserved it this game. But for who? Diarra 4pts, 4ast, 3TO on 1-4. Calcaterra was 0-6 before his garbage time shots. AJax 2pts, 1ast on 0-2 and fouled out. Alleyne 0-4.

Just got punked and ran off our home floor against a bottom 3 BE team. If there was any time for some soul searching and major adjustments from Hurley, now is the time. The BE has UConn figured out. Time to make the changes to utilize our talent to force other teams to play our game instead of the other way around.
 
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HuskyBaggins said:
Who can ? Joey C missed wide open jumpers, Newton had an open three with no defender within 12 feet and missed EVERYTHING
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Newton can at least drive, and Calcaterra is a solid passer.
 
Strangely, our season is looking more and more like Kentucky's. The Wildcats were beaten at home by South Carolina the other day but did bounce back to beat Tennessee on the road.
 
Lefty2one said:
I'm still processing just how bad Newton is. Year 5 under Hurley and we still haven't found a real point guard.
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What about RJ Cole? He was pretty good for two years, no?

But I do agree, Newton is not the guy I thought he'd be and right now we are screwed at the PG position until someone steps up, if at all.

Great UConn teams have a dog at PG and Newton isn't a dog.
 
Down by 6 in the middle of the second half and the guys gave up. They crack under pressure.

The beginning of the season all shots fell and our ball movement was intentional and surgical (now not seen in the last 5 games). With the made shots we ran the score up so we never were truly worried, guys played with confidence. We were stopping runs by the other teams by making smart plays and hitting shots. We never had our backs truly up against the wall.

We become desperate when only down by a possession or two. It feels like we miss our open shots we freak out and turn to sloppy passes and quick out of rhythm shots. When they don’t drop, our team gives up. You can see it on their faces.

It did seem like Jordan had a look in his eyes, that I haven’t seen yet. He took smart shots and when he came off the screen and didn’t have the space he took it to the basket.

Our “big three” need to play smart and lead by example, sanogo needs to pass out of doubles and Jackson needs to slow down and limit turnovers like when we were undefeated. It feels like two of the three have played poorly in all of our losses
 
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jibsey said:
I was out and have the game on tape but went to the chat just to check near the end. It was quite toxic over there understandably. I now don’t want to watch the tape but can someone just briefly explain how this went that badly? Once down, playing tight?
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It was the same as the rest of the losses. Bad on ball defense and no ability to dribble penetrate or get quick baskets. We start our offense 30 ft from the basket with our point guard dribbling with his back to the basket. There was so much bad it’s tough to even pick a few things out.
 
IllinoisHuskie said:
We can nix any talk about members of this team being ready for the NBA. Only one somewhat close is Hawk and he has no driving game.
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Funny you point that out when he actually drove the ball well this game. It was his best game driving the ball all season.
 
I know offense is sexier than defense, but I hope the coaching staff realizes that this team is going nowhere unless it significantly improves defense down the stretch or it is going to have mediocre results down the stretch. Honestly, I am not sure they have the parts to play great defense - certainly not man to man. I think a 2-3 zone should be considered and played a good 15 minutes a game. It will protect our players who foul 1v1 too much and protect against the fact that Sanogo is not a physical deterrent at the rim and that Donovan is still green defensively but could be a great accumulator of rebounds in a zone.
 
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Hey Adrien! said:
What about RJ Cole? He was pretty good for two years, no?

But I do agree, Newton is not the guy I thought he'd be and right now we are screwed at the PG position until someone steps up, if at all.

Great UConn teams have a dog at PG and Newton isn't a dog.
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I’m fine with Newton if Hurley allows him to drive.
 
I have thought this before today. Did we have a game plan today? Or is the plan let’s run our stuff, play tough defense and we should be ok? Because if we had a game plan we certainly did not execute it.
 
husky429 said:
I said at the beginning of the season, the only thing that matters to me is the BET and the NCAAT, and I'm sticking by that. But I'm not feeling very good right now.
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Yup, and I've seen enough from these clowns now. I'll tune in again when we get there.
 
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