Sportscenter obsession with pro wrestling

[Walker11]

I think ESPN is a year or two away from hiring paparazzi to trail athletes TMZ style.

 

[nomar]

Personally I don't find it entertaining at all and have never watched. But it does require a ton of athletic ability and there's a huge fan base who is interested

I agree that they're athletes but I don't get why anyone over 7 is into it. It's like a grown man still really being into Santa.

 

[joober jones]

My grandfather was a huge fan, but pro wrestling was quite a bit different in his day.

 

[hardcorehusky]

ESPN in the early days carried wrestling programs regularly.

 

[amory]

whatever. it's no worse than what they normally do

plus wrestlemania is still fun after all these years

 

[Fishy]

It's all over ESPN.com as well.

I'm guessing ESPN has a stake in it somehow - that's how things become news there.

No one, but no one, but no one gives a tenth of a s--- about the X-games, but since ESPN owns it, they treat it like a real sport and pretend that the world's best snowmobile flipper-overer is actually someone of note.

 

[Robertelamin]

I can't wait for Steven A Smith and Skip Bayless debating on First Take if Undertaker is clutch or not.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

I agree that they're athletes but I don't get why anyone over 7 is into it. It's like a grown man still really being into Santa.

Haven't watched in years because the product sucks but it's really no different than watching a movie. You know the actors in movies are playing characters and the outcome is predetermined. I'm not saying you in particular but I think people crap all over wrestling to feel better about themselves.

 

[JimHurley]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. It's not even a sport. It's acting. WWE was stuff I loved back in 5th and 6th grade.

 

[August_West]

Haven't watched in years because the product sucks but it's really no different than watching a movie. You know the actors in movies are playing characters and the outcome is predetermined. I'm not saying you in particular but I think people crap all over wrestling to feel better about themselves.

product does suck right now.
It used to be so fantastic. I especially was a huge mark for southern based stuff from the late 70's through the 80's ( Jim Crockett promotions, Georgia championship, Mid- South. World Class, UWF, Memphis). What made it so fun is those nuts BELIEVED, so the heat was so real. I did not like at all the cartoon era McMahon ushered in with Hogan after Vince sr. died, but I at least had NWA/WCW to lean on (McMahon had killed all the other regions) . Then the Monday night war/ attitude era of late 90's was simply incredible. WWE has sucked since the attitude era ended pretty much. at least 10 years now. I still pay attention but its not good (there are exceptions Daniel Bryan, etc...)

 

[Dogdeacon]

The answer to every question is money. Its likely both that ESPN had or now has a stake in WWE once they saw their younger audience was paying attention, they are desperate to stop the erosion of eyeballs from sportscenter that's also discussed in thread.

 

[amory]

product does suck right now.
It used to be so fantastic. I especially was a huge mark for southern based stuff from the late 70's through the 80's ( Jim Crockett promotions, Georgia championship, Mid- South. World Class, UWF, Memphis). What made it so fun is those nuts BELIEVED, so the heat was so real. I did not like at all the cartoon era McMahon ushered in with Hogan after Vince sr. died, but I at least had NWA/WCW to lean on (McMahon had killed all the other regions) . Then the Monday night war/ attitude era of late 90's was simply incredible. WWE has sucked since the attitude era ended pretty much. at least 10 years now. I still pay attention but its not good (there are exceptions Daniel Bryan, etc...)

even if you don't watch raw, $10 a month for WWE network to just watch the PPVs is worth it. I still look forward to the major ones

 

[nomar]

Haven't watched in years because the product sucks but it's really no different than watching a movie. You know the actors in movies are playing characters and the outcome is predetermined. I'm not saying you in particular but I think people crap all over wrestling to feel better about themselves.

I hear you. A lot of people are into it, obviously, so there must be something to it. I find it amusing more than anything. Like I said, I respect the athleticism. It's choreographed but there's talent to it. There's also a skill in creating and performing the characters.

My dad watched boxing when I was a kid and hated the WWF because it was fake. So that's how I grew up (although I did watch it a little behind his back). Watching guys actually hit each other, not stomp on the floor with their foot while "throwing" a punch that misses by about a foot. That stuff always made me laugh. It was so over the top. Like when it was a tag-team bout and one team was going to lose so one of the guys would distract the ref, etc. So I get the comparison to the movies but I guess my response would be pointing out that movies look real. Then again, I guess it's all one type or another of the suspension of disbelief.

 

[August_West]

even if you don't watch raw, $10 a month for WWE network to just watch the PPVs is worth it. I still look forward to the major ones

I have it. (well, I have a reciprocal deal with my Brother in law. I give him my Netflix password, he gives me is WWE network password).
I use it more for the classic stuff, honestly. Just finished watching the Flair/Steamboat trilogy of 5 Star matches from spring '89. But I do watch most current PPV's....eventually

 

[nomar]

I have it. (well, I have a reciprocal deal with my Brother in law. I give him my Netflix password, he gives me is WWE network password).
I use it more for the classic stuff, honestly. Just finished watching the Flair/Steamboat trilogy of 5 Star matches from spring '89. But I do watch most current PPV's....eventually

If I drew a Venn diagram of hardcore Deadheads and hardcore wrestling fans, how many people besides you would be in the middle section?

Second question: if Jerry showed up a WWF event in like 1992, and bashed someone over the head with a guitar, do you think you would have died of ecstasy at that exact moment, or would it have taken a a few minutes?

 

[August_West]

If I drew a Venn diagram of hardcore Deadheads and hardcore wrestling fans, how many people besides you would be in the middle section?

Second question: if Jerry showed up a WWF event in like 1992, and bashed someone over the head with a guitar, do you think you would have died of ecstasy at that exact moment, or would it have taken a a few minutes?

Nah I like those worlds being separate. I remember being at a dead show at philly spectrum in 1987 when wrestle mania 3 was happening and calling home from a payphone during set break for results

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

I have it. (well, I have a reciprocal deal with my Brother in law. I give him my Netflix password, he gives me is WWE network password).
I use it more for the classic stuff, honestly. Just finished watching the Flair/Steamboat trilogy of 5 Star matches from spring '89. But I do watch most current PPV's....eventually

Did you watch last night? If so how was it?

 

[August_West]

Did you watch last night? If so how was it?

didnt watch yet and have stayed away from spoilers. Going to watch tonight or tomorrow hopefully.

 

[MattMang23]

Did you watch last night? If so how was it?

For your sake or August's I don't want to spoil anything but one match (involving a hell in a cell) is a must watch. The rest was just blah. Couple nice surprises but don't expect one of the best Manias ever.

 

[August_West]

I don't want to spoil anything but one match (involving a hell in a cell) is a must watch. The rest was just blah. Couple nice surprises but don't expect one of the best Manias ever.

Havent watched but I would bet my life Shane O Mac probably risked his life taking a bump again. He's insane always has been. Looking forward to seeing that.

 

[MattMang23]

Havent watched but I would bet my life Shane O Mac probably risked his life taking a bump again. He's insane always has been. Looking forward to seeing that.

He has no fear.

 

[CallMeBruce]

From the linked article, I'm referring to this Glenn Jacobs.

Glenn Jacobs, senior coordinating producer of ESPN’s New & Next Group (a 25-30-person group that focuses on new content plays for the company), said his staff has spent a lot of time researching what ESPN viewers are paying attention to on social media. They found that ESPN viewers are very interested in WWE content. For example: Last Monday’s WWE Raw, which airs on USA Network, was the most-talked about topic among SportsCenter’s nearly 26 million Twitter followers (The ESPN researchers look at hashtags and key words). WWE content, in fact, drew three times as many as mentions as the second-most talked about topic that night: LeBron James. Jacobs said WWE Raw has been a top five talked-about topic over the last five weeks among SportsCenter followers on Twitter and a top 10 topic for 15 straight weeks.

Here's his full bio from ESPN. He graduated from Rockville High in 1988 (Same year and school as Mike Ferrell from football recruiting sites).


Glenn Jacobs - ESPN MediaZone

Hey, same high school! High five!

 

[Marat]

I didn't watch but something caught my eye (without revealing much) - Shaq made an appearance.

 

[sledog]

Don't you yurn for the days of Haystack Calhoun?

 

[August_West]

Don't you yurn for the days of Haystack Calhoun?

not for him personally, he was a side show oddity, but yes I yearn for that era of wrestling.

 

[MattMang23]

Ughhh I wish I had been able to see that. I hear it was awesome. My coming of age was during the NWO/Attitude era. Those were great years too.

 

[August_West]

Ughhh I wish I had been able to see that. I hear it was awesome. My coming of age was during the NWO/Attitude era. Those were great years too.

incredible years. The initial NWO angle was pure genius. They screwed it up eventually but the intitial angle with Hall and then Nash coming in was as good as you got.

 

[MattMang23]

incredible years. The initial NWO angle was pure genius. They screwed it up eventually but the intitial angle with Hall and then Nash coming in was as good as you got.

Yup. If they had gotten HBK as their third like was the original plan- or so I hear- it would have been even better. But even with Hogan it was great had they left it at that. Got watered down.