Spanos -- are you freakin' joking?

[UCFBfan]

And the men just lost to Providence so by the logic here Hurley should be fired.

I guarantee there are a ton of folks over on the MBB board that would probably agree with you right now....

 

[Waquoit]

"The UConn that you used to know is not the UConn that you will see in the future". - HCJM

"Those were the words of UConn head coach Jim L. Mora, at the Sixth Annual Educating Athletes New Jersey High School Football Coaches Event of the Year at Waterside Events in North Bergen, New Jersey on Monday, December 13, 2021".

I'm thinking Gou buries the lede a bit here. Think about it, Mora was only hired a few weeks ago and he gets a gig to speak in front of the NJ coaches at their Event Of The Year! They have good players in NJ. I'm guessing he wasn't on the bill before the hire. I wonder if another coach gets that spot on short notice instead of Jim Mora. And good on coach for making it happen. One good thing we know already, Jim isn't afraid to ask.

 

[Samoo]

Yep. He is responsible and is being asked to stay around as player loyalty to him trumps his ability. At least as Mora sees it. We need the bodies for now. Not good.

Glad to hear that Mora has you to confide in. Can you share all the other ways he "sees it"?

 

[CL82]

It was young. It isn’t an excuse. It is another Edsall failure. He ran off the older players and didn’t replace them with transfers. We were playing a stupid number of freshman and sophomores all over the field. That’s was Edsall failing. That’s why we have a new coach.

I’m not sure if that was why Edsall was failing, but it certainly was a major contributing factor.

 

[CL82]

Here is a short article on Mora defending against rookie QBs written this fall. Any young Qb probably, and would be dictated down to Spanos.

Jim Mora on How to Defend Rookie Quarterbacks

Jim Mora on Defending Rookie Quarterbacks. Former NFL head coach Jim Mora Jr. shared his thoughts on how he would attack Trevor Lawrence

www.the33rdteam.com

I thought this was interesting and counter-intuitive.

 

[hardcorehusky]

I thought this was interesting and counter-intuitive.

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You would think you want them to make quick decisions. I am not sure it means no pressure on the qb, just keep him contained in the pocket. It also could mean disciplined lane rushes and not having your ends take wide angles to the qb.

 

[SubbaBub]

The defense being easily read by opponents is the biggest mark on Spanos record. That needs to change immediately. If the Wyoming QB can read it that easily, then there was a very serious problem.

 

[DoctorWho85]

I guarantee there are a ton of folks over on the MBB board that would probably agree with you right now....

Most likely. I avoid the MBB board after a lost like the plague. It's about as toxic as Urban Myers locker room.

 

[Platt81]

You would think you want them to make quick decisions. I am not sure it means no pressure on the qb, just keep him contained in the pocket. It also could mean disciplined lane rushes and not having your ends take wide angles to the qb.

I think it just means a lot more of rushing and containing from the edge as opposed to stacking the box and blitzing up the middle. I could also be completely wrong but that’s what I take away from it.

 

[RSTuthill]

I’m not sure if that was why Edsall was failing, but it certainly was a major contributing factor.

Absolutely. I remember his first year. But I think Disco did the same thing. They all think they have a free year. Like a corporation taking a huge hit one year which makes it so much easier to show progress the next years.

The problem of course is that players now hit the portal for someplace better once they get good enough. A structural problem which makes it much more difficult for a school like UConn to pull itself out of the hole it is in.

 

[giddyup]

The defense will be ranked in the high 80s low 90s next year. You heard it here first.

Imagine flying so high as to break above the bottom 25%…and into the lower limits of the realm “below average”.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

I think it just means a lot more of rushing and containing from the edge as opposed to stacking the box and blitzing up the middle. I could also be completely wrong but that’s what I take away from it.

The idea is that you want QB's, especially inexperienced ones, to have to stay in the pocket and check down their list of options to throw at; by doing so, you can cause interceptions and at least incompletions rather than letting them get out of the pocket and make things happen with their legs, let receivers break off of their intended route so as to create chaos and get open in that manner, etc.

 

[RSTuthill]

The idea is that you want QB's, especially inexperienced ones, to have to stay in the pocket and check down their list of options to throw at; by doing so, you can cause interceptions and at least incompletions rather than letting them get out of the pocket and make things happen with their legs, let receivers break off of their intended route so as to create chaos and get open in that manner, etc.

Gotta be good on the edge to do that. And maybe send more on the edge rush. Which means the secondary has to be good enough for man coverage. Hmmm ... the problem in non-linear.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Gotta be good on the edge to do that. And maybe send more on the edge rush. Which means the secondary has to be good enough for man coverage. Hmmm ... the problem in non-linear.

Yes, all three levels of the defense have to improve.

 

[Hoophound]

I’m not sure if that was why Edsall was failing, but it certainly was a major contributing factor.

I meant, it was another of his many failures.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Gotta be good on the edge to do that. And maybe send more on the edge rush. Which means the secondary has to be good enough for man coverage. Hmmm ... the problem in non-linear.

There are zone blitzes. Usually drop a DE into pass coverage. They use to drop Julius Williams into pass coverage alot but he came in as a LB. Perhaps someone like a Hardy or the kid Branch coming in.

 

[RSTuthill]

There are zone blitzes. Usually drop a DE into pass coverage. They use to drop Julius Williams into pass coverage alot but he came in as a LB. Perhaps someone like a Hardy or the kid Branch coming in.

Yeah. Whether or not UConn will have the capability to execute this strategy next year is a currently open question pending portal arrivals and February signings.

 

[Palatine]

Mora's #2 is "create discomfort."

....it’s important to make the communication between the quarterback and center as difficult as you can, so there’s some uncertainty when the ball is snapped.

That means moving the front a little bit, moving the Mike linebacker a little bit — presenting some different looks. Make sure the quarterback and the center and the back and the line — all those responsible for protection – are not on the same page.

This is something Spanos almost never did. His defensive line and LBs were in cement. They rarely moved pre-snap. Our defensive was easier to read than "Fun with Dick and Jane."

 

[Samoo]

Mora's #2 is "create discomfort."

....it’s important to make the communication between the quarterback and center as difficult as you can, so there’s some uncertainty when the ball is snapped.

That means moving the front a little bit, moving the Mike linebacker a little bit — presenting some different looks. Make sure the quarterback and the center and the back and the line — all those responsible for protection – are not on the same page.

This is something Spanos almost never did. His defensive line and LBs were in cement. They rarely moved pre-snap. Our defensive was easier to read than "Fun with Dick and Jane."

I hope so. Fun with Dick and Jane is a movie.

 

[CL82]

I hope so. Fun with Dick and Jane is a movie.

Closed captioning?

 

[Bomber36]

I hope so. Fun with Dick and Jane is a movie.

It was a kids book long before it was a bad movie.

 

[ktuck911]

It was a kids book long before it was a bad movie.

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If you watch the movie enough there's plenty of humor in it

 

[Bomber36]

If you watch the movie enough there's plenty of humor in it

No thanks…once was enough for me.

 

[Husky92]

Mora's #2 is "create discomfort."

....it’s important to make the communication between the quarterback and center as difficult as you can, so there’s some uncertainty when the ball is snapped.

That means moving the front a little bit, moving the Mike linebacker a little bit — presenting some different looks. Make sure the quarterback and the center and the back and the line — all those responsible for protection – are not on the same page.

Defense will take a good step forward next year. I believe it and I’m counting on it!

 

[RioDog]

\
You guys are sooooo old. By the time I was in grammar school reading class in the late 60s we had left Dick and Jane behind and moved on to Jack and Janet.

Back to our regularly scheduled thread.

EDIT: The Wyoming QB was probably a Jack and Janet man.

 

[Chief00]

My guess is this was a forgone conclusion. Spanos likely played some part in the Mora hire. He was rewarded for playing that role and there was a comfort level.

 

[Pudge]

My guess is this was a forgone conclusion. Spanos likely played some part in the Mora hire. He was rewarded for playing that role and there was a comfort level.

I suspect Lou Spanos was a central topic in DB conversation with Mora in Idaho. That was one they had to drill into. I believe Mora made a priority search and networking to find a guy that fit his mind better than Lou. And reached out. That led him to circle back to Spanos ... and Benedict was fully supportive, given Lou's performance in the 2021 pride closeout. He has the team's back.

The Defense may be led by Spanos in 2022; but Mora is a integral new part given his background. And the personality of Hilliard, Diabite, MacClendon is going to take this in a new direction. Plus we aren't playing newbies all over. We have vets.

 

[DoctorWho85]

I suspect Lou Spanos was a central topic in DB conversation with Mora in Idaho. That was one they had to drill into. I believe Mora made a priority search and networking to find a guy that fit his mind better than Lou. And reached out. That led him to circle back to Spanos ... and Benedict was fully supportive, given Lou's performance in the 2021 pride closeout. He has the team's back.

The Defense may be led by Spanos in 2022; but Mora is a integral new part given his background. And the personality of Hilliard, Diabite, MacClendon is going to take this in a new direction. Plus we aren't playing newbies all over. We have vets.

You make a good point. Mora most likely has a good network of people to reach out to and for one reason or another things just didn't work out. Mora also seems like the type of coach that also will take players opinion's into consideration too before which is another reason I think Spanos was re-hired. Spanos makes a lot of sense once you get past the initial knee jerk reaction. He's had success everywhere he's been, including at UCLA with Mora. The defense did improve under this year and can only get better from it's performance this year with a better offence being fielded.

 

[Waquoit]

Mora's #2 is "create discomfort."

....it’s important to make the communication between the quarterback and center as difficult as you can, so there’s some uncertainty when the ball is snapped.

That means moving the front a little bit, moving the Mike linebacker a little bit — presenting some different looks. Make sure the quarterback and the center and the back and the line — all those responsible for protection – are not on the same page.

This is something Spanos almost never did. His defensive line and LBs were in cement. They rarely moved pre-snap. Our defensive was easier to read than "Fun with Dick and Jane."

I'm thinking that this is something UConn will start to do now, the recent past under a different HC notwithstanding.