South Carolina fans

[jumpstart]

Where? I've just moved to North Myrtle Beach.

I lived in Cherry Grove for a year...loved it...North Myrtle was not that great but it's been a few years. Maybe things have changed.

 

[CL82]

Too much?

“Shut down the women’s basketball board! Shut down the dang general women’s basketball board!!!”

Too much?

I knew that game was always going to be tough, but that fourth quarter was just world-class disappointing. Hopefully, we’ll be better prepared when we next meet. Congrats on a good win.

 

[HuskylnSC]

Where? I've just moved to North Myrtle Beach.

North Myrtle is pretty cool. Some great restaurants. If you've just moved to SC, you may not be familiar with the geographic nomenclature. The Upstate is those western counties that border on North Carolina or Georgia; Greenville, Spartanburg, Oconee, Cherokee, Pickens, and Anderson predominantly. We are about 4 hours away from NMB. Welcome to SC. Beautiful Places and Smiling Faces.

 

[HuskylnSC]

Husky and GameCock-now loving living in Bluffton, SC and traveling the state. In Greenville last week - best job of urban redevelopment in US. SC has some of the best sport fans in the country with the exception of women's basketball. Have not found many fans of any women's sports. Even graduates typcially acknowledge that they have a good "girls team" but know little about the team.

#YeahThatGreenville - Typically listed as one of the top downtowns in America. Great town. Over 50 companies national and international headquarters. A top spot for young professionals too. Downtown has a replica of Fenway park, where BoSox minor leaguers play. (Go Yankees)

 

[thatguyed]

Somewhat unrelated, I liked that both UConn and South Carolina fans traveled to support their teams. I thought that was one of the few bright spots from the game today.

True. We each had groups far bigger than anyone else. I think we may have been a little larger than USC but it would be close. I was really surprised USF had such a small group.

 

[TC22]

Had there not been Covid we would have been there. If they go to another island tournament I won’t miss it.

 

[cockhrnleghrn]

I have not read anything to support your warning. I think all fans on here are basic women's basketball fans. UCONN is not dead in the water and it's a very long season. I would be surprised to see an undefeated team at seasons end......even with South Carolina playing at such a high level. It takes one bad game and you have a loss. The South Carolina fans have not been anything but respectful but they deserve the right to be happy. Just saying......I lived in Irmo SC for 8 years and got to know their athletics programs up close. They appreciate winning. They don't expect it.

We have a lot more experience with losing than with winning.

 

[cockhrnleghrn]

Husky and GameCock-now loving living in Bluffton, SC and traveling the state. In Greenville last week - best job of urban redevelopment in US. SC has some of the best sport fans in the country with the exception of women's basketball. Have not found many fans of any women's sports. Even graduates typcially acknowledge that they have a good "girls team" but know little about the team.

In basketball, our fandom is very much Columbia focused.

 

[Bayareahusky]

Yes South Carolina has a great team, and will be formidable to play this season and into the tournament. We are fortunate to play them early in season, and later in preparation for the big dance. Let's see how it plays out. SC certainly deserved the W this week. They played well.

 

[visitingcock]

We have a lot more experience with losing than with winning.

I can’t “like” this post but must acknowledge its validity!

 

[cbraarj]

Disagree. Two teams that play each other every year that know they have to go through each other for the top recruits and #1 ranking. More of a "friendly" rivalry at this point unlike ND and TN but still a rivalry. Both teams circle their game with each other on the calendar every year. Meeting in the FF would enhance the rivalry (they did meet in regional final in 2018) but the rivalry is already there and will only get stronger over the next couple of seasons.

Regional Final that was over by the first half. South Carolina has only won twice that's not a rival.

 

[cockhrnleghrn]

I can’t “like” this post but must acknowledge its validity!

It's true, especially in football. We've had periods of good teams in most sports, but success over the course of decades is probably limited to baseball. In WBB we had some lean years under Nancy Wilson and Susan Walvius, though both of them had a few good teams.

 

[Charliebball]

Husky and GameCock-now loving living in Bluffton, SC and traveling the state. In Greenville last week - best job of urban redevelopment in US. SC has some of the best sport fans in the country with the exception of women's basketball. Have not found many fans of any women's sports. Even graduates typcially acknowledge that they have a good "girls team" but know little about the team.

South Carolina sure seems to fill their arena for the WBB games.........I believe they've led the country in attendance the past few years..........somebody must appreciate women's basketball down there.....

 

[Tank]

Husky and GameCock-now loving living in Bluffton, SC and traveling the state. In Greenville last week - best job of urban redevelopment in US. SC has some of the best sport fans in the country with the exception of women's basketball. Have not found many fans of any women's sports. Even graduates typcially acknowledge that they have a good "girls team" but know little about the team.

SC has been leading the nation in attendance for quite some time now….there must be some fans.

 

[visitingcock]

SC has been leading the nation in attendance for quite some time now….there must be some fans.

The fambase is mostly in the Columbia area. The ticket prices are kept low enough to take a whole family to the games and the locals do. The AD and Dawn are in absolute agreement on keeping prices low to make it accessible to the entire community.

We are a football-tv-money-rich SEC school and can afford to do this.

 

[shiverz45]

I live in the Upstate of South Carolina. When I talk to fans here they usually say, "Girls basketball? Really?"

I believe it. Dawn had to correct one of the reporters/writers who used the term "girls" in referring to her team.

 

[TC22]

In basketball, our fandom is very much Columbia focused.

Tell that to the steady stream of cars coming from the Charleston region on any given game day.

 

[Creature]

Very Proud of this thread. Why? Moderator made a prediction to stop overzealous South Carolina fans from poking fun at Uconn fans. Instead!!! This thread turned into a lovefest between UConn Fans and SCar fans. Yaaaay.

 

[DefenseBB]

SC has been leading the nation in attendance for quite some time now….there must be some fans.

Interestingly enough, yes, SC has led the NCAA WCBB in attendance the past 6 years (no data for 20-21). Prior to that, in 2014, Tennessee led the category (SC was 10th at 6,371) and it was the last of 11 straight years (2004-2014) they led the country only broken in 2003 when UConn led the country. Tennessee also led the country for 3 years '00, '01 and '02. The 2000 year was the first year listed for Attendance. Tennessee had by far the highest average of 15,510 in 2001. They also broke 15,000 in 2006 with 15,356. SC's highest average was 14,364 in 2016 and they had 12,218 in 2020 and 10,406 in 2019.

But as @visitingcock noted, the school keeps ticket prices very low to allow boosters to buy in bulk and to give them to youth organizations. So, being the business analyst that I am and the fact I regularly buy UConn tickets, I suspect the UConn revenue is higher on gate receipts than SC.

But hey, feel free to put up another banner on the being the top attendance school in WCBB. We will retain the banner for most titles...oh wait, we already have 11 so I guess we don't need 1 stating we have the most banners...

 

[visitingcock]

Interestingly enough, yes, SC has led the NCAA WCBB in attendance the past 6 years (no data for 20-21). Prior to that, in 2014, Tennessee led the category (SC was 10th at 6,371) and it was the last of 11 straight years (2004-2014) they led the country only broken in 2003 when UConn led the country. Tennessee also led the country for 3 years '00, '01 and '02. The 2000 year was the first year listed for Attendance. Tennessee had by far the highest average of 15,510 in 2001. They also broke 15,000 in 2006 with 15,356. SC's highest average was 14,364 in 2016 and they had 12,218 in 2020 and 10,406 in 2019.

But as @visitingcock noted, the school keeps ticket prices very low to allow boosters to buy in bulk and to give them to youth organizations. So, being the business analyst that I am and the fact I regularly buy UConn tickets, I suspect the UConn revenue is higher on gate receipts than SC.

But hey, feel free to put up another banner on the being the top attendance school in WCBB. We will retain the banner for most titles...oh wait, we already have 11 so I guess we don't need 1 stating we have the most banners...

Since I must appreciate your Snark . . .

SCar doesn’t need to profit on wbb ticket sales. Is wbb the only part of UConn’s athletic department that turns a profit?

 

[CL82]

Since I must appreciate your Snark . . .

SCar doesn’t need to profit on wbb ticket sales. Is wbb the only part of UConn’s athletic department that turns a profit?

“Shut the general woman’s Basketball Board and ban all South Carolina posters!”

I kid, I kid. (or do I?)

In 2020 I don’t believe any of our sports made a profit.

 

[DefenseBB]

Since I must appreciate your Snark . . .

SCar doesn’t need to profit on wbb ticket sales. Is wbb the only part of UConn’s athletic department that turns a profit?

The funny thing is I wanted to edit your comment for better clarity "We the SEC is are a football-tv-money-rich SEC school and can afford South Carolina to do this".

The irony is though, even football rich SEC schools cut Men's Athletic programs as even the mighty Gamecocks with all their SEC money, only have 8 Men's sports. The women have 11 sports including Beach Volleyball, which seems odd as I have been to Columbia and don't recall any beaches?

I jest of course, but the point is despite all the "so-called money" from Football, the SEC schools seem to reinvest all that same money back into salaries of Football so virtually all the SEC schools have limited men's programs and requisite Title IX women's programs to equal out the football 85 scholarships.
Tennessee 7 men's, 9 women's
Texas A&M 8 men's, 10 women's
LSU 8 men's, 11 women's
Mizzou 8 men's, 10 women's
Georgia 8 men's, 11 women's
Ole Miss 7 men's, 9 women's
Miss State 6 men's, 8 women's
Alabama 7 men's, 10 women's
Florida 8 men's, 11 women's
Vanderbilt 6 men's, 9 women's
Arkansas 7 men's, 10 women's
Kentucky 10 men's, 12 women's
Auburn 7 men's, 10 women's

UConn 7 men's, 12 women's, (they just cut Men's swimming).

So yeah, it is a little bit disingenuous that so many of your colleagues want to tout this "football" money but yet, it stays "football money"...much to the dismay of the many non-revenue sports that could and should benefit with the distribution-like men's swimming, water polo, wrestling, men's soccer, men's and women's lacrosse...

For the record, the NCAA has sanctioned 16 men's sports, 18 women's sports and 3 co-ed sports. Stanford participates in the most with 16 Men's and 19 Women's. Some of these sports are not sanctioned by the NCAA-like men's rowing.

 

[visitingcock]

The funny thing is I wanted to edit your comment for better clarity "We the SEC is are a football-tv-money-rich SEC school and can afford South Carolina to do this".

The irony is though, even football rich SEC schools cut Men's Athletic programs as even the mighty Gamecocks with all their SEC money, only have 8 Men's sports. The women have 11 sports including Beach Volleyball, which seems odd as I have been to Columbia and don't recall any beaches?

I jest of course, but the point is despite all the "so-called money" from Football, the SEC schools seem to reinvest all that same money back into salaries of Football so virtually all the SEC schools have limited men's programs and requisite Title IX women's programs to equal out the football 85 scholarships.
Tennessee 7 men's, 9 women's
Texas A&M 8 men's, 10 women's
LSU 8 men's, 11 women's
Mizzou 8 men's, 10 women's
Georgia 8 men's, 11 women's
Ole Miss 7 men's, 9 women's
Miss State 6 men's, 8 women's
Alabama 7 men's, 10 women's
Florida 8 men's, 11 women's
Vanderbilt 6 men's, 9 women's
Arkansas 7 men's, 10 women's
Kentucky 10 men's, 12 women's
Auburn 7 men's, 10 women's

UConn 7 men's, 12 women's, (they just cut Men's swimming).

So yeah, it is a little bit disingenuous that so many of your colleagues want to tout this "football" money but yet, it stays "football money"...much to the dismay of the many non-revenue sports that could and should benefit with the distribution-like men's swimming, water polo, wrestling, men's soccer, men's and women's lacrosse...

For the record, the NCAA has sanctioned 16 men's sports, 18 women's sports and 3 co-ed sports. Stanford participates in the most with 16 Men's and 19 Women's. Some of these sports are not sanctioned by the NCAA-like men's rowing.

But Dawn’s salary is higher than our football coach. So, changing we South Carolina” to we “SEC” and making an argument about the SEC in general is a bit disingenuous.

We filled a then-75,000 seat stadium and made tv money as an independent with strong scheduling before we joined the SEC. that’s why they invited us. And the SECN/ESPN loves Dawn’s WBB programming (and scheduling). WBB and baseball might be considered slot fillers - but slot fillers have value to contracts.

And YES we love what UConn has done for us in terms of scheduling. Thank you Geno. Hate us DBB. We love you.

 

[Tank]

I believe SEC FB money has greatly enriched many WBB teams In that conference. Mulkey to the SEC is latest example.

 

[jumpstart]

Football drives the athletic departments. It is up to the other programs to mitigate their losses. South Carolina does this in WBB by lower prices but heavy on the sales on the game day end. The average 12,000 fans eat and drink plus buy paraphernalia. I think what they do is very smart on that end.

 

[Tank]

Football drives the athletic departments. It is up to the other programs to mitigate their losses. South Carolina does this in WBB by lower prices but heavy on the sales on the game day end. The average 12,000 fans eat and drink plus buy paraphernalia. I think what they do is very smart on that end.

MBB is also profitable. That and FB pay for everything in college athletics, as no other teams in any sports make positive net profit from their operations.

The fact that SEC schools give much of that profit back to FB is a moot point if they are bringing in enough profit to help finance the other teams, like WBB. In WBB the SEC has overage profits that fund the sport such that they can spend more than others to acquire coaches and build facilities.

Look at the Mulkey hire, and SC keeping Staley. Both are among the highest paid in the sport. SEC FB and MBB revenues absolutely fuel the other sports. SEC looks soon to be in the $100 million per year revenue stream. That so far outpaces many excluding the B1G, all others falling behind fast.

SEC FB is the king of revenue, along with B1G FB.

 

[Tank]

Regional Final that was over by the first half. South Carolina has only won twice that's not a rival.

Since when has ND and Tenn been a “thing”?

Since I must appreciate your Snark . . .

SCar doesn’t need to profit on wbb ticket sales. Is wbb the only part of UConn’s athletic department that turns a profit?

No women's team turns a profit,

 

[TC22]

he's in Duncan. Great location - Halfway between Greenville and Spartanburg. 15 minutes (low traffic) to downtown of either

And right in the center of Clemson country. They don’t even know they have a sport other than football.

 

[TC22]

But as @visitingcock noted, the school keeps ticket prices very low to allow boosters to buy in bulk and to give them to youth organizations. So, being the business analyst that I am and the fact I regularly buy UConn tickets, I suspect the UConn revenue is higher on gate receipts than SC.

But hey, feel free to put up another banner on the being the top attendance school in WCBB. We will retain the banner for most titles...oh wait, we already have 11 so I guess we don't need 1 stating we have the most banners...

Curious, what is the price of a season ticket to UConn games?

 

[cbraarj]

Since when has ND and Tenn been a “thing”?

No women's team turns a profit,

Learn the history before you comment.