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Sources Say BYU/UConn will join Big 12 for FB only

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If this is being floated as a trial boat, it means Texas has one foot plus like three toes out the door.
 
junglehusky said:
If this is being floated as a trial boat, it means Texas has one foot plus like three toes out the door.
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This would really put a wrinkle into the ten toes in motto. How many toes do we have to go around? Two toes in the Big 12? 5 in the Big East? A couple more toes in Hockey East... one smaller toe endlessly waiting for the ACC and Big 10 to call?
 
LOL. Never go full insider. As somebody mentioned - has he or some of these dolts actually listened to what Bowlsby has said or are they too busy concoting conspiracy theories in their own heads?
 
Yeah, I somehow doubt this is the guy who's gonna break the realignment story
 
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ShakyTheMohel said:
I think the author of the article just wanted this board to stop posting about logos.
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Ha good luck with that....

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Slasher said:
Football only schools don't trigger the pro-rata. They're not going to expand and divvy up the pie even more. They're doing this to make some extra money for a few years, not give it away.
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Now that we've popped this trial balloon, let's examine the condition under which this would even be possible.

1. B12 would need to have decided that expansion is a no go.

2. B12 would need a way to save face, because they are pretty much committed to doing something by OU and the ACC network.

3. The proexpansion side would need to see this as a strategic camel nose under the tent moment and feel confident that the 2024 endgame is likely to end favorably for them.

4. The TV partners would have to agree to pay for this, not only cover the costs of the new members without diluting current payments, but also give a small bump to the existing members. It need not be the full prorata increase, but item #2 above still applies.

5. The B12 would need to feel confident that their playoff chances aren't negatively affected.

6. Any potential candidate will accept, of course.

So, anyone think all that is possible? That there is enough trust amongst the member institutions to agree to that?

I don't think there is.
 
Slasher said:
Football only schools don't trigger the pro-rata. They're not going to expand and divvy up the pie even more. They're doing this to make some extra money for a few years, not give it away.
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It doesn't trigger it contractually, but it's feasible that the Big 12 could have negotiated something with the TV partners like this. The fact that they could get the pro rata increase incentivizes ESPN to come up with a cheaper option. I'm not saying that any of this is true, and it's almost certainly not, but it's not unreasonable that they could come to an agreement where all B12 teams get a small bump and ESPN/Fox save money doing football-only adds.
 
CallMeBruce said:
It doesn't trigger it contractually, but it's feasible that the Big 12 could have negotiated something with the TV partners like this. The fact that they could get the pro rata increase incentivizes ESPN to come up with a cheaper option. I'm not saying that any of this is true, and it's almost certainly not, but it's not unreasonable that they could come to an agreement where all B12 teams get a small bump and ESPN/Fox save money doing football-only adds.
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That's what my point was. Laughing at all these TV contract experts streaming it doesn't trigger the pro rata increase. That's the point.

And again, I doubt this happens and I know for certain the rumor is bogus but that was my thought process.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
First, I don't believe this source whatsoever.

Second, I don't think it's as crazy as people make it out to be.

1. The research apparently shows that having 12 teams increases the odds for making the CFP.

2. BYU is a national football brand and could be competitive from day 1. UConn would offer a piece of the northeast without having to send their Olympic teams there.

3. Big 12 schools would see their per team take increase all while ESPN/Fox save money from paying the full pro rata.

4. UConn would need a basketball home and I'm sure Fox would want us in the Big East with some scheduling arrangements with the Big 12.

So, again I don't believe the rumor, I don't believe it will happen, but I don't think it is insane.
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I'm not suggesting the big 12 isn't discussing, but it doesn't make sense on so many levels. It goes directly against Bowlsby's comments from last week regarding the entire AD being valued.

outside of perception, how does this help uconn? their share for FB only in Big12 will be $5M and BE will get them $500K.
Great!!! Uconn is P5.
 
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And yes, Jennifer Anderson is coming over to my house for sex only.
 
Marty Jackson said:
I'm not suggesting the big 12 isn't discussing, but it doesn't make sense on so many levels. It goes directly against Bowlsby's comments from last week regarding the entire AD being valued.

outside of perception, how does this help uconn? their share for FB only in Big12 will be $5M and BE will get them $500K.
Great!!! Uconn is P5.
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Joining the BE in all sports but Football will get UConn a bit more than $500K. If the BE TV Deal is worth $500 Mil over 12 years, with 11 members that comes out to $3.78 Mil per team, per year.

So in this pipe dream of a fantasy, UConn athletics would be getting about $8.78 Mil for their FB and BB, not including Hockey East deal and whether UConn would be able to get anything for their T3 Football rights (unclear if the BE schools retain their T3 Hoops rights).
 
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SpartyCyclone said:
Is M H ver3 a dirty word? Can I not type that here??
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Yup, he's been added to the potty mouth list here. Not sure why a few others haven't been added too.
 
HuskyinWRNY said:
No way. If we any chance to go to the Big 12, it's all or nothing.
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This isn't happening, but the thought that we'd turn down moving football to the XII and everything else to the Big East if Fox wanted to show us the money is laughable. Yes, we need protection about needing to go full to the XII if they ever break away from the NCAA, but barring that the Big East for all sports has a lot of advantages as to rivalries and travel, and that deal would put us light years ahead of where we are now.
 
pnow15 said:
And yes, Jennifer Anderson is coming over to my house for sex only.
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Who is Jennifer Anderson? Should I be jealous?

Just looked her up. The assistant professor of business administration at Weber St? Yes, I am now jealous.
 
MattMang23 said:
Who is Jennifer Anderson? Should I be jealous?

Just looked her up. The assistant professor of business administration at Weber St? Yes, I am now jealous.
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Please, bring McLovin back. Anything but what you have right now.
 
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I don't think this is nearly as far fetched as you guys are making it out to be. When you step back from the situation and look at each interest involved it actually makes some sense.

ESPN doesn't' want to lose the AAC which they own for pennies on the dollar and neither FOX or ESPN want to shell out nearly a billion to add 4 schools to the Big 12.

When yo look at what the Big 12 wants adding schools isn't' really the priority, adding a CCG, increasing payouts, and increasing the chances a Big 12 schools gets in the playoff, are the goals they are after. This actually accomplished most of what they are after.

The Big 12 could easily decide that this accomplishes what they are after in the short term and this will allow them to monitor the landscape the next few years before they decide to let BYU and UConn join as full members and move forward with some sort of a conference network when these t-3 deals come to an end. Grab the 2 most valuable brands out there while not having to deal with the travel issues and other challenges BYU presents.

It's fun to say that Texas and OU are going to leave everyone behind but when you think about what that would actually take to happen it becomes apparent that them leaving is very unlikely for many reasons. Texas is quite happy with it's current situation and has no reason to go elsewhere. OU hs show to be unhappy but if 2/3 borens demands are met with a long term plan for a network OU really has no reason to leave either. Those fans who think OU is going to announce they are leaving the conference without a major shit show to follow aren't' being realistic as nothing similar has ever happened in realignment.
 
NYUConn said:
Joining the BE in all sports but Football will get UConn a bit more than $500K. If the BE TV Deal is worth $500 Mil over 12 years, with 11 members that comes out to $3.78 Mil per team, per year.

So in this pipe dream of a fantasy, UConn athletics would be getting about $8.78 Mil for their FB and BB, not including Hockey East deal and whether UConn would be able to get anything for their T3 Football rights (unclear if the BE schools retain their T3 Hoops rights).
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I was being extreme on the $500K.... Are you sure on the $3.8M figure?
pretty sad that Seton Hall bb gets $3.78M yet Uconn in the AAC gets roughly the same (before the Big East credits)...
 
MountainMan said:
So now my post require moderator approval? LOL. Jeezus you folks are uptight.
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It has nothing to do with what you are posting. It seems to happen when it takes a long time to compose the post. Here is what you do. Just copy the post and and post it again. Delete the post that says that it is awaiting moderator approval. That is what has worked for me.
 
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