Source: Kevin Ollie believes he deserved one more chance next season (Borges)

[Pudge]

I am not one to dismiss Kevin Ollie. But ... absolutely NOT: We got blown out (by more than 20 points) 8+ times. We were often, simply, NOT COMPETITIVE. Go learn more about the Profession and how to teach/coach young men. NBA or whatever. You are still young and can rebound and rise.

 

[CL82]

I thought this, too, at first; but after thinking about it some more, I'm guessing that it is frequently the case at many state schools that many coaches are also teachers. For example, Larry Tsantiris, UConn women's soccer head coach, also taught soccer as a class for undergraduates. I don't know if he still does, but he did in the 80s.

Geno, Dailey and Calhoun all did as well. That was before their contracts made them multi-millionaires and limited their duties to just coaching.

88, under CT law can two parties expressly agree not to be subject to the CBA? Alternatively, can UConn define being a head coach as a management position outside of the teachers CBA?

 

[huskeynut]

None of this should be a surprise. The original ESPN article said Ollie was fighting for his job. He does not think he should be fired. The union's statement that he is suspended without pay is further evidence that Ollie has every intention of being UConn's head basketball coach next year and the union seems to support that. I believe DB and Susan knew this going in.

We will know in a few days how this will play out, unless the union plays games with dates to postpone things. I hear that game has already started.

 

[huskymedic]

We will know in a few days how this will play out, unless the union plays games with dates to postpone things. I hear that game has already started.

? It’s in the article...

>>That means this process could drag on for at least a couple of weeks, perhaps a month. In fact, UConn has already suggested a few dates for the initial hearing with Benedict that weren’t amenable to the union. That hearing likely won’t occur until late next week — and perhaps even after the March 24 deadline, if the two parties can’t find a mutual date and agree to an extension.<<

 

[huskymedic]

Alternatively, can UConn define being a head coach as a management position outside of the teachers CBA?

Not unilaterally - subject of bargaining.

 

[tower1]

>>One thing is sure: Ollie is not getting his job back. The only issue at hand is money, and whether or not Ollie gets all, some or none of the nearly $11 million left on his contract.<<

>>“If they hire someone, that person goes into the collective bargaining agreement. I don’t know what title he’d have,” Bailey said. “I don’t know if you could have two coaches at the same time. It would be awkward. We’ll see how they proceed with this.”<<

>>“They have to do what they need to do, I suppose,” Bailey said. “They’ve begun their search, that’s their prerogative. But right now, Kevin is suspended with pay. They’re not gonna hire somebody tomorrow or next week. Not until this is said and done.”

Benedict would not comment, but sources at UConn seem to believe the school could make a hire before Ollie’s situation is resolved.<<

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NO HE DOES NOT !!!!

 

[Block C]

NO HE DOES NOT !!!!

Screw him he can have another chance somewhere else like Rhode Island

 

[Huskybass]

None of this should be a surprise. The original ESPN article said Ollie was fighting for his job. He does not think he should be fired. The union's statement that he is suspended without pay is further evidence that Ollie has every intention of being UConn's head basketball coach next year and the union seems to support that. I believe DB and Susan knew this going in.

We will know in a few days how this will play out, unless the union plays games with dates to postpone things. I hear that game has already started.

There is exactly zero chance Kevin Ollie will ever coach again at UConn.

 

[Danzz]

KO didn’t deserve another chance because he blew it off the court. He needs to accept that and settle or risk soiling his good name for future opportunities.

What did he blow off the court? Nothing has been proven only alleged if you mean the investigation.
As far as another chance it is time for UConn and KO to part ways. Our program needs a fresh start with a new coach and KO also needs a new environment.

 

[warbler1055]

One thing I really didn't like is that Ollie rarely took responsibility for the failures of the team. He finally did after the last game of the season when he said he needed to do a better job preparing the team.

“C.V. says it's about the players, but it's about the coaching staff, too,” Ollie said. “How can I get these guys to play better and play together? … We don't want to be here. We don't want to be 14-18. And that's unacceptable and we have to get better in every category, and I'm on the top to evaluate myself. How I can get these guys to play better, how can I get my coaching staff to execute better and we're all in this together. So it's going to be a long evaluation for myself, my coaching staff, my team.”

2 years too late and lots of missing opportunities!!! Sad that it comes down to this. KO must be blind not to see that he headed the program in a death spiral.

 

[fatlucy]

This isnt about performance. Which of course was lacking. I want to know why that poster said that because he didnt already accept a settlement that he will be tarnished.

Because its a two way street. If UCONN risks looking bad by terminating him per the terms of the contract, he also runs the risk of potential employers (let alone fans) thinking he's only in the game for the money and not the results. His whole persona is "ten toes in", "loyalty", "dedication", "doing the right thing" but if he uses the terms of the contract to try to take money for torpedoing the program b/c its a guaranteed contract it will make him look like his ten toes are only in his employers wallet.

I don't think he thinks this way and its his option to do what he needs to do but there are consequences to every decision he makes. If he's willing to negotiate a reasonable settlement he'll be viewed as a reasonable guy.

Its actually different for the University b/c they have a fiduciary responsibility to the State of Connecticut and have to responsibly manage our money.

 

[UConnDad]

Its actually different for the University b/c they have a fiduciary responsibility to the State of Connecticut and have to responsibly manage our money.[/QUOTE]
State of Connecticut, reasonably manage our money, fiduciary responsibility. Are you new here?

 

[August_West]

If UCONN risks looking bad by terminating him per the terms of the contract, he also runs the risk of potential employers (let alone fans) thinking he's only in the game for the money and not the results.

No.

Nobody will ever think a coach trying to get the terms of a signed contract is "only in it for the money" . No one ever. Ridiculous.

Every single poster on this board would do the same.

 

[Hoophound]

If KO has been personally and professionally adequate to get his full buyout, he should pursue it. However, if he hasn't been and there is any record of it, he risks that stuff leaving his employee file and getting out. It isn't worth it unless he knows there is nothing there. There have been quite a few rumors, if none are true, good for KO.

 

[Deadrody]

None of this should be a surprise. The original ESPN article said Ollie was fighting for his job. He does not think he should be fired. The union's statement that he is suspended without pay is further evidence that Ollie has every intention of being UConn's head basketball coach next year and the union seems to support that. I believe DB and Susan knew this going in.

We will know in a few days how this will play out, unless the union plays games with dates to postpone things. I hear that game has already started.

Ollie and the union can think whatever they want. It is UConn's prerogative to terminate him if they so choose. The only thing at issue is his buyout.

Again, as I pointed out in a since deleted thread, the union does not dictate anything in this process. They can only appeal to another authority until those authorities have been exhausted. Their only real power is in their representation of 100s / 1000s of state employees. And there is zero chance the union can or will leverage that power on Kevin Ollie's behalf.

They also cannot dispute any agreement Kevin Ollie might come to with UConn for a reduced buyout. Their assertion otherwise is complete fiction.

 

[huskeynut]

Ollie and the union can think whatever they want. It is UConn's prerogative to terminate him if they so choose. The only thing at issue is his buyout.

Again, as I pointed out in a since deleted thread, the union does not dictate anything in this process. They can only appeal to another authority until those authorities have been exhausted. Their only real power is in their representation of 100s / 1000s of state employees. And there is zero chance the union can or will leverage that power on Kevin Ollie's behalf.

They also cannot dispute any agreement Kevin Ollie might come to with UConn for a reduced buyout. Their assertion otherwise is complete fiction.

Deadrody, I was pointing out the fact that Ollie doesn't think he deserves to be terminated. I said this from the beginning - he wants to keep his job, that's his first priority.

I agree with you that the union, try as they might, has no authority and no power to stop the firing. Ollie is gone. He screwed it up. I was in the NEA for over 30+ years as a teacher. I know all too well how unions work.

 

[Deadrody]

Deadrody, I was pointing out the fact that Ollie doesn't think he deserves to be terminated. I said this from the beginning - he wants to keep his job, that's his first priority.

I agree with you that the union, try as they might, has no authority and no power to stop the firing. Ollie is gone. He screwed it up. I was in the NEA for over 30+ years as a teacher. I know all too well how unions work.

I don't doubt that you get it. But a lot of people here don't seem to. Nor, apparently, does the union talking head, though that isn't really surprising.

The funny thing is, the union is in a no win situation, especially if you assume more than a few pro-union folks like cat lady Susan from Enfield aren't keen on the idea of a union going to bat for millionaire Kevin Ollie while there are nurses on strike (?) that can't get better than $15/hr.

 

[huskymedic]