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Source: Kevin Ollie believes he deserved one more chance next season (Borges)

JimOllie said:
I don’t understand - aren’t these two also soon to be gone?
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Yeah, but they might be trying to keep the kid at the school in general, selling it. Chill might be in the running for an assistant job, and this is one good way to land it.

Ricky may have the same thoughts, and he'll also always be loyal to the core to UCONN.

Makes sense.
 
D$ said:
How could Borges not at least imply that Ollie was the cause of the transfers and MAL's decommit?!

And for Ollie to tell a player that he feels he deserves another year? I bet it was DO.

Does KO not realize he put the program into a nosedive? Man up and own it.
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That, and I love the bit about being without Larrier for a full year last year. Well, we had Larrier for a full year this year, and an even worse record. The injuries argument works when you’re team ends up ranked in the 60s, when the expectation w/out injuries were to be ranked in 35-40 range. But, when you’re team is ranked 178 range, the injury excuse starts sounding a bit strained. Water under the bridge of course
 
TopDogs said:
because of injuries? Am I wrong thinking we only had one guy injured this season? One injured player should not equal a second losing season. I mean, I'll give him last year. Not much you can do when your entire team is injured. But this year? It smacks of incompetence.
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We had three guys transfer and our leading recruit decommit .
That’s two maybe three starters .
Plus Larrier and Gilbert coming of very serious injury
The other guys were all freshman.
The article did say Injuries and transfers.
We started the season with two players with any time together .
Do you really think we wanted Cobb,Williams,DO and maybe even Anderson
That’s called desperation .
The reality was last years team with a healthy Adams was much better than this years non team .
Especially offensively. They were real thin with no back up ball handler but they we still more complete.
 
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because of our history and our years of success Ollie cannot get one more year, we have become too impatient of a fanbase, especially being in the AAC, we can't afford to risk losing everything UConn has built....but I do believe he deserves one.
 
D$ said:
How could Borges not at least imply that Ollie was the cause of the transfers and MAL's decommit?!

And for Ollie to tell a player that he feels he deserves another year? I bet it was DO.

Does KO not realize he put the program into a nosedive? Man up and own it.
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“The Huskies also lost three key players — shooter Vance Jackson and forwards Juwan Durham and Steve Enoch — to transfer following the ’16-17 season. The program’s top recruit, Makai Ashton-Langford, also was granted a release from his national letter-of-intent and wound up at Providence.” Still, Kevin takes no responsibility for the climate he created.
 
It's not my metaphor, but "I deserve another year to turn it around" sounds like escalator language.
By contrast, how would "I believe I've earned another year to walk this staircase to the top" sound in view of what you've witnessed over the past 12 or 5 or 2 months, or even more recently?
 
Early in the year, I was in favor of giving him one last chance. As the season progressed, and I watched this team struggle with basic things like the inbounds pass, watched as DO got valuable minutes that could have gone toward developing players that would be here going forward, watched as we struggled on the boards and he insisted on using all 3 guards at once, I no longer felt he could come back. We basically sunk to a level where games against USF and ECU were toss ups and games against Cincinnati and Wichita were lock losses. UConn cannot settle for that.
 
Milo65 said:
“The Huskies also lost three key players — shooter Vance Jackson and forwards Juwan Durham and Steve Enoch — to transfer following the ’16-17 season. The program’s top recruit, Makai Ashton-Langford, also was granted a release from his national letter-of-intent and wound up at Providence.” Still, Kevin takes no responsibility for the climate he created.
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Amazing! The losses didn't happen TO him. They happened BECAUSE OF him!!!
 
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HooperScooper said:
One thing I really didn't like is that Ollie rarely took responsibility for the failures of the team. He finally did after the last game of the season when he said he needed to do a better job preparing the team.

“C.V. says it's about the players, but it's about the coaching staff, too,” Ollie said. “How can I get these guys to play better and play together? … We don't want to be here. We don't want to be 14-18. And that's unacceptable and we have to get better in every category, and I'm on the top to evaluate myself. How I can get these guys to play better, how can I get my coaching staff to execute better and we're all in this together. So it's going to be a long evaluation for myself, my coaching staff, my team.”
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I didn't buy that quote given the timing, just seemed like lip service given that the same crap went on all year, the team's shortcomings were obvious and there was never any double-down apparent on the court in terms of re-dedication to hard work & preparation. There's also no work evident to correct via a great recruiting class and not a single thing moving in a positive direction, this was just not true introspection - just words.
 
It was pretty easy to see why many(Most??)wanted him fired. I was always in the camp that felt he could turn it around and would have given him another year.
 
CL82 said:
“If they hire someone, that person goes into the collective bargaining agreement. I don’t know what title he’d have,” Bailey said. “I don’t know if you could have two coaches at the same time. It would be awkward. We’ll see how they proceed with this.”

Why the freak is our head coach part of the teachers union?
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huskymedic said:
Been like this for decades (including Calhoun):

“Connecticut State Statute requires all individuals, as designated by their work titles, to be represented by a bargaining agent to which they pay dues.“

Titles included/excluded in the AAUP are here in Article 1 & 2 on Page 1
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CL82 said:
Still incredibly dumb.
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I thought this, too, at first; but after thinking about it some more, I'm guessing that it is frequently the case at many state schools that many coaches are also teachers. For example, Larry Tsantiris, UConn women's soccer head coach, also taught soccer as a class for undergraduates. I don't know if he still does, but he did in the 80s.
 
8893 said:
I thought this, too, at first; but after thinking about it some more, I'm guessing that it is frequently the case at many state schools that many coaches are also teachers. For example, Larry Tsantiris, UConn women's soccer head coach, also taught soccer as a class for undergraduates. I don't know if he still does, but he did in the 80s.
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If you coach a state school what other unions could you be in. I think there should be a separate union for coaches. They shouldn’t be in the AAUP
 
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CT works in odd ways. Years ago when I worked as an RN at the health center we were part if the teacher's union.
 
Hoophound said:
KO didn’t deserve another chance because he blew it off the court. He needs to accept that and settle or risk soiling his good name for future opportunities.
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Soiling his name, how exactly?
 
August_West said:
Soiling his name, how exactly?
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His reputation is already severely tarnished. He was beloved, now people just want him to be completely out of the picture. I know you will argue otherwise, but it's the truth.
 
Huskybass said:
His reputation is already severely tarnished. He was beloved, now people just want him to be completely out of the picture. I know you will argue otherwise, but it's the truth.
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No.
Not good enough. That poster said Ollie was risking soiling his reputation by not already agreeing to a settlement. I want to know why he (or now you) thinks that.
 
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August_West said:
No.
Not good enough. That poster said Ollie was risking soiling his reputation by not already agreeing to a settlement. I want to know why he (or now you) thinks that.
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I don't care what he does from here on out, although I will bet you a trip to Arby's that a compromise settlement is reached.

If you don't think his on and off court actions over the past 2 to 4 years have tarnished what was a great reputation, I don't know what to tell you. I bet you even view him differently than you did 2 years ago.
 
Huskybass said:
I don't care what he does from here on out, although I will bet you a trip to Arby's that a compromise settlement is reached.

If you don't think his on and off court actions over the past 2 to 4 years have tarnished what was a great reputation, I don't know what to tell you. I bet you even view him differently than you did 2 years ago.
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This isnt about performance. Which of course was lacking. I want to know why that poster said that because he didnt already accept a settlement that he will be tarnished.
 
August_West said:
This isnt about performance. Which of course was lacking. I want to know why that poster said that because he didnt already accept a settlement that he will be tarnished.
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I can't speak to that as I believe KO has to do what is in his best interests from here on out. None of this is unexpected. The two sides are doing what they need to do. My personal belief is that a compromise settlement will be reached.
 
No one is posting how they could tarnish his reputation. When people have, it has been deleted. Anyone spending as much time on the board as most involved in this discussion knows the rumors. The big question is what’s true and what isn’t. I’ve come to believe that a couple of them are true. I don’t know for certain, but some of the same stuff has come from different people.
 
August_West said:
This isnt about performance. Which of course was lacking. I want to know why that poster said that because he didnt already accept a settlement that he will be tarnished.
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Isn't it obvious that if there is a legal fight there is discovery and it will be public. Wrongdoing, personal matters everything is suddenly out in the open. I don't care if you are Dudley DoRight there's risk to that. If Dudley is doing everything right but still underperforming at his job the risk of publicly documenting that is career threatening.
Just a few articles about Al Skinner being fired from BC for being lazy kept him out of coaching for 3yrs, finally getting a job as an assistant at Bryant University. Skinner's story defines tarnished.

From the BGlobe: As to that perception that he didn’t work as hard as he should have, Skinner said, “I was really surprised the legs it had. I would have hoped my reputation would have been able to withstand that."
 
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