Someone explain to me how these NBA scouts think?

[intlzncster]

I'm not saying him coming in early is a bad thing. Just him coming in early is the reason he isn't dominating as soon as he came in like Shaq did. Did anyone see Shaq play at LSU? Because that's the play that would be comparable to Andre now. If Andre averages 20 next year his progression would be on pace with Shaq. He looks like he is starting to get very comfortable with the NBA game. Next year can be a huge year for him. I feel like in his peak he can be a 25 and 15 guy. MVP candidate.

Pretty sure everyone has...when we absolutely pasted them!

 

[intlzncster]

I never liked D. Howand, I never liked his game. I never liked his attitude. I think the guy is not a winner. So I don't like comparisons to him.

Shaq was 22/13/3.4 pts/rbs/blks when he was 20, at 56% from the field. PER 36 minutes.
AD was 14/13/2.8 pts/rbs/blks when he was 20, at 60% from the field. PER 36 minutes.
Howard 15/12/1.4 pts/rbs/blks when he was 20, at 52% from the field. PER 36 minutes.

So AD is clearly better than Howard, and clearly not as good as Shaq, by those numbers. Shaq got 4 buckets more per 36, and Shaq was a better defender.

All that said, I think AD has more upside at 20 than either Shaq or Howard had. Not to say he can be better than Shaq - that does not seem possible - only that Shaq relied heavily on his size to dominate. I disagree that the guy had moves, other than 2 or 3. He couldn't shoot outside of 7 feet because of his eye issue. Shaq was Shaq more because of mass and athleticism than because of skills.

Shaq had a devastating baby hook though. I think one of the reasons Shaq never developed more moves is that he didn't have to. You couldn't stop him from getting position on the low block, and from there, he'd either spin and dunk, or flip a baby hook over you. Add that to coming over the top for ally oops and putbacks, and he was unstoppable.

 

[mauconnfan]

Embiid played volleyball at high level and his athletic ability for his size is through the roof……..he looks pretty decent shooting the ball in a short amount of time playing and to me at least, looks better coming out of his freshman year that Andre did……..Andre has made huge strides to his credit and no one knows it will be the same with Embiid but I would take a chance on that kid w/o a doubt. Like Amida he just started playing and look where he is……amazing

 

[Kembacity]

Ugh stop all the shaq comparisons! Andre likes to try to shoot a jumper, he snags steals from talented guards on picks at the top of the key. He's a much different player than shaq so there's no sense or need for those comparisons.
I'm not a big NBA history buff but I think AD has a chance to make his own legend.

He's one of the most gifted big men athletically, let's just be patient wish him the best and see what he becomes.