So when does our football program kill our basketball program?

[TheChamps990411]

Funny because last year i mentioned our poor football program was a big part of why we werent invited to the acc or big 10 and i got ripped for it.

 

[temery]

I understand your concern, but this is a fluid situation. "Coach" Pasqualoni will not be here if what we just experienced continues. The correct hire infuses life into the program quick than "Coach" Pasqualoni drained it. Also, if conference reallignment is not over (and I believe it is not), then UConn's market will be recognized as at least a suppliment to Rutgers in the NYC DMA.

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How's Edsal doing in Maryland?

 

[Husky25]

How's Edsal doing in Maryland?

What does Edsall's performance at Maryland have to do with UConn?

 

[upstater]

Funny because last year i mentioned our poor football program was a big part of why we werent invited to the acc or big 10 and i got ripped for it.

A program is more than 1 or 2 years of results. If this weren't true, Cuse and Pitt would never have been invited. On the other hand, if it isn't true, we know why Ville was invited.

 

[djct1999]

A program is more than 1 or 2 years of results. If this weren't true, Cuse and Pitt would never have been invited. On the other hand, if it isn't true, we know why Ville was invited.

in other words, either our hoops pedigree will take us to the promise land or the entire athletic program died last thursday night. only time will tell. seriously, i doubt immediate on field performance has that much of an influence but we will all look back on the loss to towson if cincy joins the power 5 and we are left behind.

 

[upstater]

in other words, either our hoops pedigree will take us to the promise land or the entire athletic program died last thursday night. only time will tell. seriously, i doubt immediate on field performance has that much of an influence but we will all look back on the loss to towson if cincy joins the power 5 and we are left behind.

Agreed, if Cincy joins the ACC...

But, don't be surprised if Cincy joins the B12. That conference is not looking to send Texas teams to Hartford any time soon. It's too much. UConn is 2x as far from Ames, Iowa as Cincy is.

 

[djct1999]

i have my doubts that the big 12 will expand while the rest of the landscape remains static. they will add cincy as a reaction to further movement.

 

[upstater]

i have my doubts that the big 12 will expand while the rest of the landscape remains static. they will add cincy as a reaction to further movement.

The B12 might expand quickly when its 1 loss champ gets frozen out in favor of a 1 loss championship game winner.

 

[djct1999]

The Big 12 has proven it will never be proactive and solely reactive.

 

[upstater]

The Big 12 has proven it will never be proactive and solely reactive.

That's what I'm saying. Reactive. Once it gets frozen out, it will react.

 

[freescooter]

With the right coaches, men's and women's bb could survive in the AAC and on the national level. They could survive any weakness in UConn's football program. But the monies that the major conferences are getting from media deals is very beneficial to the various universities within those conferences. Down the road athletic programs may have to be culled because of expenses at various universities. I don't want to see UConn facing this dilemma. Furthermore UConn may not be able to afford to pay the salaries for decent bb coaches. And then those programs would spiral downhill.

It will be much harder over time to have the same level of success we're accustomed to from the AAC. It will be more difficult to recruit. It will be more difficult to schedule, and it will be harder to get high seeds. We'll be struggling to get the money to run high level programs, too. Even to keep a guy like Ollie if he does indeed turn out to be a top flight coach. When Indiana with its $30 million in tv revenue and NC State with its $20 come calling, we have $2 million to fall back on. Nobody will say it, but it will make a difference.

 

[upstater]

It will be much harder over time to have the same level of success we're accustomed to from the AAC. It will be more difficult to recruit. It will be more difficult to schedule, and it will be harder to get high seeds. We'll be struggling to get the money to run high level programs, too. Even to keep a guy like Ollie if he does indeed turn out to be a top flight coach. When Indiana with its $30 million in tv revenue and NC State with its $20 come calling, we have $2 million to fall back on. Nobody will say it, but it will make a difference.

Who the heck would want to give Ollie $4 million a year when Shaka Smart is available?

 

[ctchamps]

It will be much harder over time to have the same level of success we're accustomed to from the AAC. It will be more difficult to recruit. It will be more difficult to schedule, and it will be harder to get high seeds. We'll be struggling to get the money to run high level programs, too. Even to keep a guy like Ollie if he does indeed turn out to be a top flight coach. When Indiana with its $30 million in tv revenue and NC State with its $20 come calling, we have $2 million to fall back on. Nobody will say it, but it will make a difference.

I thought that is what I wrote! I guess that makes me a somebody cause nobody would say it and since I said it I must not be a nobody.

 

[djct1999]

That's what I'm saying. Reactive. Once it gets frozen out, it will react.

It would be an extreme circumstance for a current 1 loss big 12 champion to get shut out. If that were to occur, then all 1 loss teams will be shut out and I guess you can argue its well deserved. Still, I contend that the next, first pawn to be moved in future realignment won't be from the big 12. Currently, its more likely a team will leave the big 12, than join.

 

[upstater]

It would be an extreme circumstance for a current 1 loss big 12 champion to get shut out. If that were to occur, then all 1 loss teams will be shut out and I guess you can argue its well deserved. Still, I contend that the next, first pawn to be moved in future realignment won't be from the big 12. Currently, its more likely a team will leave the big 12, than join.

Playoff Contenders:
Alabama 13-0 (Champ)
LSU 12-1
Ohio State 12-1 (Champ)
Florida St. 12-1 (Champ)
USC 12-1 (Champ)

Out of the Running:
Texas 11-1
Michigan 12-1
Oregon 12-1
Notre Dame 11-1

 

[champs99and04]

I ask this as somebody who doesn't follow the UConn football program that closely, so don't kill me, but, is there any chance Edsall gets the boot at Maryland this season and UConn re-hires him?

 

[upstater]

I ask this as somebody who doesn't follow the UConn football program that closely, so don't kill me, but, is there any chance Edsall gets the boot at Maryland this season and UConn re-hires him?

Hopefully that won't happen

 

[djct1999]

Playoff Contenders:
Alabama 13-0 (Champ)
LSU 12-1
Ohio State 12-1 (Champ)
Florida St. 12-1 (Champ)
USC 12-1 (Champ)

Out of the Running:
Texas 11-1
Michigan 12-1
Oregon 12-1
Notre Dame 11-1

Again, of course its possible, but extremely unlikely. In that scenario, a one loss texas team would still prob get the nod over a 1 loss lsu team, assuming texas lost in the championship and lsu couldnt even win the division. Could you come up with unique circumstances for a 1 loss oklahoma or texas getting shut out, of course you could. Its still my opinion that its less likely to occur than the big 12 initiating expansion. The only way the big 12 expands is if it feels threatened by further moves. I am pretty sure its their belief that a one loss texas team will still find its way in to the playoff.

 

[ctchamps]

I ask this as somebody who doesn't follow the UConn football program that closely, so don't kill me, but, is there any chance Edsall gets the boot at Maryland this season and UConn re-hires him?

Yes to first possibility. No to second.

 

[temery]

What does Edsall's performance at Maryland have to do with UConn?

Edsal and his last five years seem to be the standard by which PP is measured by many here. Edsal had a nice little stretch, but that's it. The idea he made UCONN football relevant is ridiculous. He was a good coach, who was given a dozen years, and ended on a high note. He took over a school with a similar record, and has done worse than PP in the past two years.

PP deserved the same chance given to Edsal. Give him a couple years where the majority of his players are his own recruits. PP deserves this year at the very least.

 

[upstater]

Again, of course its possible, but extremely unlikely. In that scenario, a one loss texas team would still prob get the nod over a 1 loss lsu team, assuming texas lost in the championship and lsu couldnt even win the division. Could you come up with unique circumstances for a 1 loss oklahoma or texas getting shut out, of course you could. Its still my opinion that its less likely to occur than the big 12 initiating expansion. The only way the big 12 expands is if it feels threatened by further moves. I am pretty sure its their belief that a one loss texas team will still find its way in to the playoff.

There is no championship for Texas to lose. That's why they're hampered. That's really the whole point of what I'm saying. The other teams will have played a championship game. Texas is not in a conference with a championship.

 

[djct1999]

There is no championship for Texas to lose. That's why they're hampered. That's really the whole point of what I'm saying. The other teams will have played a championship game. Texas is not in a conference with a championship.

Right, that was my mistake. I still think a one loss Texas/Ok team gets in over a 1 loss sec team unless both alabama and georgia or florida go into the championship game undefeated.

 

[upstater]

Right, that was my mistake. I still think a one loss Texas/Ok team gets in over a 1 loss sec team unless both alabama and georgia or florida go into the championship game undefeated.

That was the scenario. Two undefeated SEC teams go to the championship game, both get in ahead of 1 loss Texas. It would only be fair.

 

[Husky25]

Edsal and his last five years seem to be the standard by which PP is measured by many here. Edsal had a nice little stretch, but that's it. The idea he made UCONN football relevant is ridiculous. He was a good coach, who was given a dozen years, and ended on a high note. He took over a school with a similar record, and has done worse than PP in the past two years.

PP deserved the same chance given to Edsal. Give him a couple years where the majority of his players are his own recruits. PP deserves this year at the very least.

UConn did not fired Edsall in favor of "Coach" Pasqualoni. He left on his own accord. So comparing and pining after Edsall as if UConn should not have dumped him in the first place is a fool's errand. Secondly, Edsall had different challenges and much different expectations at the beginning of his tenure than "Coach" Pasqualoni, So comparing the two coaches' tenures at this point at UConn as well at their respective current schools is also ridiculous.

The standard to which "Coach" Pasqualoni is held has to do with the product on the field and the results thereof, not necessarily in comparison to Randy Edsall. My untrained eye tells me that "Coach" Pasqualoni's system employs a rigid, complicated-at-times system that is a failing formula in the current FBS football era. My one and only comparison to Randy Edsall is that while his system was not always aesthetically pleasing, it was effective for the most part, especially at home. The latter certainly cannot be said for "Coach" Pasqualoni.

 

[tzznandrew]

Right, that was my mistake. I still think a one loss Texas/Ok team gets in over a 1 loss sec team unless both alabama and georgia or florida go into the championship game undefeated.

A 1-loss OSU team says hi.

 

[Palatine]

UConn, Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, North Carolina. What do they all have in common? Football will never affect our basketball wins. May change the conference, but that's it.

Indiana has a god awful football team and has for decades.

 

[freescooter]

Indiana has a god awful football team and has for decades.

True, but Indiana is in the Big 10, has been for decades. They, and Kentucky and North Carolina, even Syracuse now, can get away with having crappy football. Not so sure UConn, being on the outside looking in, has the same flexibility. Furthermore, why would we want to?