Times Square is one of the most visited tourist attractions in the US. What do people want to see there? Besides loads of bright lights, I have no idea. But the point is that it IS good to advertise there.
Clearly, UConn should advertise on his thong.
We played that Miami team in 2001, in Miami. Never got a return game from them.
I'm looking forward to the return game from Michigan.
Jimmy - do you think Nike knows what it's doing when it comes to marketing and promotion?
Think about this, and then understand that Oregon football, was very successful for many years on the west coast. THe problem was, they played football in Oregon. THey virtually never made it anywhere in the popularity contest that developed in the 1990s for the college football rankings. In 1994 they won the Pac 10, went to the rose bowl, but never cracked the top 10 in the polls.
Two years later, when the BCS is created, and the polls become so damn important, and a national championship game (in name) is actually going to be played for the first time come 1998 - a certain fan of Oregon football, who happens to own Nike..... starts a TWO YEAR plan of advertising Oregon football..........where? 3,000 miles away - in the middle of New York City.
Two Years - of new york city bill boards advertising Oregon football in Manhattan, starting in the late 1990s.
I'm not going to post his quotes, b/c I've done it before. I'll paraphrase - if you want to be recognized, you have to advertise where it counts.
In 2000, (our first season as a 1-A program, 3-8) Oregon won the Pac 10 again, but this time was ranked in the top 10 in the country, as a tri-champion of the league.
IN 2001, Oregon won teh pac 10 again, and was ranked #2 iun the country in the popular media polls. AND got snubbed for the BCS championship game, in place of #4 ranked Nebraska - who lost to Miami.....the calculations of the BCS system were changed after that.
Two years of dropping big bucks on New York City publicity is what made Oregon football a nationally recognized product, and what made the controversy around Miami's national title in 2001, so important, and changed the BCS the first time.
IF you don't agree? Fine. The big east leadership at the time, was oblivious about it all too, being interviewed while a 250 tall billboard of Joey Harrington was on the building across from the entrance to MSG.
This is not the same as buying out Western Michigan.
It costs three million to pass go.
This effects Michigan's future schedule. BCS teams will be wary of scheduling a home/home series with Michigan unless they get Michigan at home first.
UConn has some powerful carrots in the athletic department including series with our men and women basketball teams. Heck, a home and home with our women would produce the only sell out UM women's team ever has. A home/home with the men's basketball team means a healthy TV payday.
Warde has many arrows in his quiver. What's amazing to me is how little Boneyarders think of their own athletic program. There are posters comparing UConn to Buffalo. There are posters that are guaranteeing a Michigan win. There are posters who think that the season ticket holders should be screwed and the game moved. And this is the UConn board! YIKES!
I don't know how much of this is true, but I will endorse any argument that leads to scheduling Michigan in NYC or anywhere else, assuming we cannot get them to come to E. Hartford.
You didn't get a return game because UConn was required to play a free road game against every team in the Big Eat for free as part of being admitted to the league. You might have noticed that VPI and Boston College never played return games as well. UConn never played them all because the league fell apart.
No sh(t.
Every word of it is true. In the summer of 2002, while the BCS leadership was meeting to restructure itself, because #2 in the country after regular season Oregon, was left out of the national championship game, that pitted #1 Miami vs. #4 Nebraska (Nebraska was also NOT a conference champion - when Miami and Oregon were).....and Miami won. The Big 12, the Pac 10, the entire college football world was ready to scrap the BCS, and it's ranking systems, Miami was getting raked over the coals, because they were champions of the Big East - a supposedly weak conference, and Nebraska played the title game as a non-champion of the big 12, (hello texas/oklahoma) and Oregon at #2 sat out in the west and didn't play. As the BCS ranking systems were being restructured in meetings that summer....
Mike Tranghese was interviewed in the New York Times about the state of college football, the Big East conference position in it as the current reigning national champion AND the two year plan that Nike had sponsored to advertise Oregon football in New York City....asked quote" what to you think about advertising Oregon 3,000 miles away in the heart of Big East country?"
Tranghese' response, instead of defending his cnference champion and national title, and dumping on a BCS system that had put Nebraska into game instead of Oregon.......said.....I you not....
Well, I'm more concerned about the decision that St. JOhn's is making about the names on the backs of their players basketball jerseys."
Miami was gone to the ACC by spring 2003.
But that kind of leadership is all over now in the conference. The conference nearly died for it to happen. We have new leadership moving forward, and a whole new outlook, and a realistic grasp now on the intercollegiate landscape, unfortunate that it took so long, but once again, if not for the way the big east handled things over the years, UConn would still be at the level of our former new england partners in intercollegiate athletics.
Well your post implies your lack of understanding as to why Miami didn't return the game.
Do honestly think that Oregon's rise is tied to some billboard in NYC? For real?
People here live on false sense of bravado. It is many's reason for being.
You have the general concept right, but your simply wrong on the details...you win your way into the "big boy club" as you call it by winning football games...year after year. Getting to the point where 8-4 is considered a rebuilding year. It doesn't matter all that much who you play...Bosie State has done that, and Virginia Tech is the poster child for that approach. In fact, Beamer had a term for it...Scheduling for success...And while a regular season win against Michigan in September would be nice and exciting for UCONN fans, the wins you want are over name opponents in bowl games. The win over Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl is more important in boise being taken seriously than any 5 other wins they've had. Had UCONN somehow figured out a way to beat Oklahoma in our Fiesta Bowl trip, we'd be on a very different plane, and likely in a very different conference, right now.Some people on here are so beyond clueless, it's almost hard to fathom how they get out of the bed in the morning.
Nobody is advocating the game be voluntarily moved to Giants Stadium. We all want the game at The Rent. Stop insinuating that is the debate - it's not.
Michigan is either going to play us at The Rent, buy the game out, or try and work out an arrangement where we play at Giants Stadium.
It's not 'giving in' if we move the game to NYC. It will be making the best of the situation.
If Michigan says we'll buy you out for $2M or play at Giants Stadium, you have two options:
a) Play the 2nd most storied college football team in America, in NYC and have a nationally televised game.
or
b) Play Toledo at Rentschler Field on SNY.
For the absolute life of me I cannot fathom how a fan of UConn Football would select the ladder.
Again, how is playing Michigan in Giants Stadium "small time" and playing a home game vs. Toledo "big time" ? Swallow this false sense of bravado and just go out and do what's best for the program.
I haven't had season tickets as long as some of you ( only 8 years ) but guess what? If I 'have' to go to Giants Stadium and get to watch UConn take on Michigan instead of another boring game that does nothing for UConn's national brand - I'm going to be pretty pumped up about.
You win your way into the big boy club by beating name brand teams. Period.
This is an opportunity for that. In case you haven't been paying attention to the new scheduling arrangements between the 'big boys' and the new bowl lineups - these opportunities may come few and far between.
Had UCONN somehow figured out a way to beat Oklahoma in our Fiesta Bowl trip, we'd be on a very different plane, and likely in a very different conference, right now.
If Miami were in the conference when we were supposed to join in 2005, we would have gotten a home game on the schedule - conference home game. Sorry I didn't hold your hand on that conclusion.
here's the reason that UCONN, and Boise State for that matter, are different from Syracuse and Pittsburgh. VaTech got embarassed too, and Clemson got not just embarrassed but humiliated...But the difference is that UCONN and Boise State are virtual unknowns in the world of big time football. UCONN would have vaulted into the national consciousness as a football program with that win, just as Boise did with its win. But we have no history...Pitt, agains twhom we're 4-4 since joining the Big East, is being hailed as a great addition. Syracuse, agaisnt whom we're 6-2, is considered a good one. Yet on the field UCONN is at least as good, arguably with a higher upside than either one, certainly than Syracuse. As for why Boise State was skipped over in favor of Utah by the PAC, there are a host of reasons, including that Utah was seen as "or equal" due to its recent performances. And it was better located, had better fans and better markets, and frankly a far better institution.You were mostly right, but then you make a crazy statement like this.
Pitt got embarrassed in their BCS game, and Saracuse hasn't even sniffed one. If you were right about this, Louisville would have been invited to the ACC over Pitt or Cuse.
Cincy, Ville, UConn all have had more recent success by far than Cuse/Pitt but were not invited to the ACC. One BCS bowl win doesn't get you an invite.
And please don't bring up Utah or TCU. They both made a lot of sense in terms of market, performance, investment, etc, etc, etc. They weren't invited based on a singular BCS win. It took the Big East being decimated before we considered Boise State, and they were passed over for Utah by a conference that is a more natural fit. They also won their conference 9 out of the last 11 years.
Here's the thing - there was an chance of playing the SEC or Big12 champion in the current BCS model. Right now our champion is going to be playing the ACC #3 in the Champs Sports Bowl-which we'll share with ND.
Point being even if we do have a 10 win season we still be facing a 9-3 Georgia Tech as opposed to an 11-1 Texas or USC.
By all indications Michigan is going to be a pretty damn good team as Hoyke has turned the program around. Getting an opportunity to get on the field with a top 10 ranked blue blood program just isn't going to happen much with 9 game conf schedules and scheduling alliances between conferences.
And yet people would rather be tough guys and demand the buyout or nothing and play some no name school.
Beating Michigan in 2013 won't make UConn a national name in football. But you beat a top 25 ranked Michigan team anywhere it becomes the all time signature win in UConn Football history. Right now we have an unranked ND road win, a 7-5 USCe win, a ranked win vs USF and an unranked WVU win.
A ranked Michigan win trumps all of those! Yet people don't want to budge because apparently "scheduling for success" wins vs Kent State are more important and being tough guys with our contract mean more to them.
:Here's the thing - there was an chance of playing the SEC or Big12 champion in the current BCS model. Right now our champion is going to be playing the ACC #3 in the Champs Sports Bowl-which we'll share with ND.
Point being even if we do have a 10 win season we still be facing a 9-3 Georgia Tech as opposed to an 11-1 Texas or USC.
By all indications Michigan is going to be a pretty damn good team as Hoyke has turned the program around. Getting an opportunity to get on the field with a top 10 ranked blue blood program just isn't going to happen much with 9 game conf schedules and scheduling alliances between conferences.
And yet people would rather be tough guys and demand the buyout or nothing and play some no name school.
Beating Michigan in 2013 won't make UConn a national name in football. But you beat a top 25 ranked Michigan team anywhere it becomes the all time signature win in UConn Football history. Right now we have an unranked ND road win, a 7-5 USCe win, a ranked win vs USF and an unranked WVU win.
A ranked Michigan win trumps all of those! Yet people don't want to budge because apparently "scheduling for success" wins vs Kent State are more important and being tough guys with our contract mean more to them.
Do honestly think that Oregon's rise is tied to some billboard in NYC? For real?
Michigan must be made to honor its contract and play the game at Rentscheler. The game is TOO important to the perception of UConn football to ignore how damaging this would be. If need be-take it to court. Hopefully some judge will have the fortitude to compel Michigan to honor its agreement or endure a extremely stiff remedy, for example:
Michigan can either play UConn at Rentschler Field on that date or NOT PLAY at all. The game would be forfeited to UConn with the following stipulations: 1.) UConn could go about scheduling a replacement game (giving them a shot at 13 regular season wins and a guarantee of no worse than a 1-12 record) AND Michigan would furthermore be prohibited from scheduling a replacement twelvth game. Bottom line for the Wolverines . . . play UConn at Rentschler or forfeit the game and be restricted to an 11 game regular season that year. How bad could a trip to East Hartford be.
The only exception to this should be IF Michigan uses its "clout" and gets UConn a BiG Ten acceptance in return for UConn voluntarily agreeing to allow them to opt out of the commitment. Then . . . they'll have to come to East Hartford every few years anyway.
Well then maybe Uconn can ask Vermont to reinstate football and get that whole Yankee Conference thing going again. This whole business is so not what people were led to believe way back when UConn was trying to generate support for upgrading. People were not jumping at the vision of UConn v Western Michigan or UConn v Kent State. UConn may need to get some Orrin Hatch types (worked for Utah) that will lobby congress hard to look into all this nonsense if the Huskies can't get a better crack at becoming a legitmate D-1/BCS-esque program. And for its part, Congress would do well to spend less time on whether Bobby Bonds's and Mark Mac's (of the A's) records were steriod induce or should not be allowed to count because poor old Hank Aaron didn't use 'em and spend time on a growing oligopoly TV and a shrinking number of college programs.
Michigan must be made to honor its contract and play the game at Rentscheler. The game is TOO important to the perception of UConn football to ignore how damaging this would be. If need be-take it to court. Hopefully some judge will have the fortitude to compel Michigan to honor its agreement or endure a extremely stiff remedy, for example:
Michigan can either play UConn at Rentschler Field on that date or NOT PLAY at all. The game would be forfeited to UConn with the following stipulations: 1.) UConn could go about scheduling a replacement game (giving them a shot at 13 regular season wins and a guarantee of no worse than a 1-12 record) AND Michigan would furthermore be prohibited from scheduling a replacement twelvth game. Bottom line for the Wolverines . . . play UConn at Rentschler or forfeit the game and be restricted to an 11 game regular season that year. How bad could a trip to East Hartford be.
The only exception to this should be IF Michigan uses its "clout" and gets UConn a BiG Ten acceptance in return for UConn voluntarily agreeing to allow them to opt out of the commitment. Then . . . they'll have to come to East Hartford every few years anyway.