Simple fix for the Big 10!

[Schoup]

You are 5 years too late. We have been discussing all this on Conf Realignment board for ever. You are bring nothing new here. Go back to your moms basement and have a nice life.

LOL. You clearly have learned nothing from 5 years of feeding each others delusions on getting into a P5. It's not happening for the reasons stated and you all get butt hurt over it. Now go study for your exams in what surely is a useless major. You're clearly not bright. Your parents are looking forward to you moving back in soon enough.

 

[HuskyBandDad]

LOL. You clearly have learned nothing from 5 years of feeding each others delusions on getting into a P5. It's not happening for the reasons stated and you all get butt hurt over it. Now go study for your exams in what surely is a useless major. You're clearly not bright. Your parents are looking forward to you moving back in soon enough.

You are one funny dude. What are you 10

 

[HuskyBandDad]

Oh by the way you do not have to be in P5 to win National Championships. Can you say UCONN! WE ARE DOING JUST FINE. Thanks for your interest in UCONN sports.

 

[Adios]

LOL. You clearly have learned nothing from 5 years of feeding each others delusions on getting into a P5. It's not happening for the reasons stated and you all get butt hurt over it. Now go study for your exams in what surely is a useless major. You're clearly not bright. Your parents are looking forward to you moving back in soon enough.

Pot, meet kettle? P5 conferences are still very interested in us, believe it or not. Do you have anything better to do with your life?

 

[Adios]

UConn fball is horrible and it's not in a big tv market. MD and Rutgers while not having great fball programs were in great tv markets.

What country are you in?

 

[cbraarj]

LOL. You people can't refute facts so to distract from the facts you don't like, you start obsessing over something like what team someone is a fan of? Btw, the delusion and arrogance is hilarious. UConn would give their lives to be in the ACC or any other P5. NOBODY WANTED THEM EVEN WITH BEGGING!!!! THOSE ARE THE FACTS! Finally, you do know the ACC's premier sport is mens bball.

Power 5 is about football nothing else. Every time it is brought up for another sport all it does is make me laugh. It is BECAUSE of football when will people understand that! I hope I typed this slow enough for you! The fact is they can say Uconn FB sucks and it does and that is why there not in. But dont bring up BB because between mens and womens bb since 1999 the Connectcut programs have 14 NCs and All the teams in the ACC combined are not even close! Now that is Hilarious!!!

 

[HuskyBandDad]

Power 5 is about football nothing else. Every time it is brought up for another sport all it does is make me laugh. It is BECAUSE of football when will people understand that! I hope I typed this slow enough for you! The fact is they can say Uconn FB sucks and it does and that is why there not in. But dont bring up BB because between mens and womens bb since 1999 the Connectcut programs have 14 NCs and All the teams in the ACC combined are not even close! Now that is Hilarious!!!

You are correct that it is all about football. Most of the arguement is about football on field success. Example is Rutgers they were picked for cable boxes/ New York market for the B-10 network and being AAU. Uconn short D1 history is better then Rutgers. As bad as uconn football has been we could still be competitive against at least half of the P5 schools. A few years of recruiting as a P5 and we would improve greatly. Again this has been beaten to death on the CR board.

 

[HuskyBandDad]

Also pretty ironic that this troll schoup is arguing this on the women's basketball board. The greatest program in NCAA history.

 

[Schoup]

Pot, meet kettle? P5 conferences are still very interested in us, believe it or not. Do you have anything better to do with your life?

No they aren't. You're delusional. If they wanted UConn the P5's could have had them anytime in the last 5 years. THEY DON'T WANT THEM B/C THEY DON'T ADD ENOUGH IN WHAT MATTERS IN EXPANSION. They aren't a marquee program that draws nationally..a la Nebraska and they aren't a big market that any P5 cares about. UConn will begging the ACC, there only desperate hope to join a P5, every time any talk of expansion occurs. ACC will keep saying no thanks.

 

[cbraarj]

You are correct that it is all about football. Most of the arguement is about football on field success. Example is Rutgers they were picked for cable boxes/ New York market for the B-10 network and being AAU. Uconn short D1 history is better then Rutgers. As bad as uconn football has been we could still be competitive against at least half of the P5 schools. A few years of recruiting as a P5 and we would improve greatly. Again this has been beaten to death on the CR board.

New Jersey is a hot bed for Div.1 recruits in the North East for FB also. It is just funny when they talk Power 5 and basketball. Even there BB coaches are naive about it.

 

[Monte]

I do not think the football part would work.

Futball rules!

 

[iamcbs]

I do not think the football part would work.

As has been said for about the millionth time on this site....

 

[iamcbs]

Rutgers is terrible at sports. Anyone catch the scores of Rutgers vs. Michigan, Ohio State, or Penn State? We could have done that, and at least we bring national championships in other sports.

Before Schiano left for the NFL, he built Rutgers into a pretty respectable program, the AD didn't shoot high enough when replacing him.

 

[iamcbs]

You clearly don;t understand what has driven conference realignment. It's all about football and tv markets. UConn fball is horrible and it's not in a big tv market. MD and Rutgers while not having great fball programs were in great tv markets. UConn's best chance and best fit to join a P5 Conference is the ACC eventually. That would occur possibly if ND joined in fball, not likely happening soon and then ACC wanted 16 teams

That may not be as far off as you may think, NBC is seriously rethinking its deal with ND, the implosion during the Brian Kelly era is having a major financial impact on the school.

 

[Schoup]

That may not be as far off as you may think, NBC is seriously rethinking its deal with ND, the implosion during the Brian Kelly era is having a major financial impact on the school.

NBC is rethinking nothing. ND finances are not hurt, they makes a ton of money win or lose, they sell out 80K stadium. They have ridiculous merchandise sales revenue, etc.. The reason ND has little interest in joining a conference is they make so much money being independent. NBC renewed the ND deal thru 2025 for a reported 15M/yr for 7 games a yr. ND is NBC's only access to college football. ND pulls good ratings and when they have marque games they pull outstanding ratings. The ACC deal assures a certain number of marquee match ups for NBC with ACC schools FSU, Clemson, Vtech, Miami,etc.... ND also has the long standing series with Pac 12 schools either Standford or USC at home alternating years. ND also has home and home series with big draw teams like Mich St and Michigan that are long time rivals and big draw games. They have extraneous series with Texas, Texas A&M, Georgia, Ohio State scheduled which are also big tv draw games. Then, even Navy who they beat 95% of the time draws good ratings b/c of tradition of the rivalry length and the military aspect. NBC is in no way rethinking the ND deal, it's great for NBC and ND.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

What team somebody cheers for is irrelevant to the points made. But, it irks you b/c since you couldn't refute the points and didn't like the truth.

The notion that you are some way interested in "truth" is the funniest part of the thread.

You wouldn't know "truth" in conference realignment if it fell out of Gene DeFelippo's butt and onto your face.

Just wanted to get that in before the thread is deleted.

 

[Schoup]

The notion that you are some way interested in "truth" is the funniest part of the thread.

You wouldn't know "truth" in conference realignment if it fell out of Gene DeFelippo's butt and onto your face.

Just wanted to get that in before the thread is deleted.

Sorry the facts hurt and no matter how sore you people get you can't handle why UConn is not in a P5 and won't be no matter how much they beg. They are low low down in the pecking order. Besides the fact that P5's are happy where they are b/c all the quality programs that add enough to be worthy of being in a P5, are already in P5's. Even B12 which is getting left behind in money, realized that none of the schools available add enough to give them a share of the B12 pie. The B12 will be picked a part in the next realignment as the big schools Tx and OU look for more money. B12 in desperation will do what the Big east tried to do and add unworthy programs leading to it's demise and the AAC split and Big East becoming essentially a BBall conference w/o fball.

 

[iamcbs]

NBC is rethinking nothing. ND finances are not hurt, they makes a ton of money win or lose, they sell out 80K stadium. They have ridiculous merchandise sales revenue, etc.. The reason ND has little interest in joining a conference is they make so much money being independent. NBC renewed the ND deal thru 2025 for a reported 15M/yr for 7 games a yr. ND is NBC's only access to college football. ND pulls good ratings and when they have marque games they pull outstanding ratings. The ACC deal assures a certain number of marquee match ups for NBC with ACC schools FSU, Clemson, Vtech, Miami,etc.... ND also has the long standing series with Pac 12 schools either Standford or USC at home alternating years. ND also has home and home series with big draw teams like Mich St and Michigan that are long time rivals and big draw games. They have extraneous series with Texas, Texas A&M, Georgia, Ohio State scheduled which are also big tv draw games. Then, even Navy who they beat 95% of the time draws good ratings b/c of tradition of the rivalry length and the military aspect. NBC is in no way rethinking the ND deal, it's great for NBC and ND.

Not according to Bloomberg, ND bullied NBC Universal into renewing the deal, but according to the article there's an out. As far as the ratings you claim are so great, they've been down for the past 3 years, even in their so-called marquee games like USC, you're obviously an ND fan, because the ratings for ND/Navy were not good this year. I don't know what ND's merchandising revenues are because I'm not on their Board of Trustees, but I do know they are not 1-5, that's Texas, Oregon, tOSU, Florida State and Baylor, according Bloomberg and USAToday. When ND is good their ratings are much better, but when they're down, as they are now, the deal isn't a good one. The reason they won't join a conference is simply pride.

 

[Schoup]

Not according to Bloomberg, ND bullied NBC Universal into renewing the deal, but according to the article there's an out. As far as the ratings you claim are so great, they've been down for the past 3 years, even in their so-called marquee games like USC, you're obviously an ND fan, because the ratings for ND/Navy were not good this year. I don't know what ND's merchandising revenues are because I'm not on their Board of Trustees, but I do know they are not 1-5, that's Texas, Oregon, tOSU, Florida State and Baylor, according Bloomberg and USAToday. When ND is good their ratings are much better, but when they're down, as they are now, the deal isn't a good one. The reason they won't join a conference is simply pride.

You're delusional if you think I like ND. There is no program in fball I hate more than ND b/c they are the most overrated program over the last 30 years. I do understand why they won't join a conference thought most I and most think they should. They have been enabled by finding a conference that feels they need ND and thus makes a deal to let them harbor their other sports. Big East did it and now ACC. All other P5's would never allow them to keep fball seperate and compete in other sports. ND has been willy in finding a conf who have an inferiority complex and thus allow such a deal.

ND did not bully NBC, they surely stated the fact that ND was NBC's only way to be in the college fball game b/c every other conference was locked into long term and very pricey deals. NBC fall sports line ups on saturdays would be horrible without fball. ND had all the leverage.

ND is one of the most valuable fball program in the country. The reason they don't join a conference is they are making a ton of money. They are top 5 in profits every year. They made 4 mil more in profit in the year OSU won the championship. The top B10 school, Michigan just beat ND by 2 mil that year. They make 15 -20 mil more per year than the top ACC school(FSU). That's important b/c if they join a conference before 2035, it must be the ACC. That was in the fine print in the partnership they signed with ACC for all other sports. ND has no reason to join a conference when they are in the top 5 in profits and ahead of every ACC school and on par with the top B10 schools. B10 will bolt ahead when their new tv deals kicks and with the BTN annual growth. Even then, the ACC is where ND wants to be. The ACC network which is starting in a couple of years could close the gap with ND, but even then ND would have to fall behind substantially in money to join. The only other thing that could force their hand is if CFP changed rules and made it harder for ND to make the playoff. There's not a realistic chance of that happening b/c the media/pundits/etc...love ND and overrate and hype them all the time.

 

[Gus Mahler]

Great point @pinotbear. KY would have at least one more Championship if not for an enlightened coach Don Haskins of Texas Southern now UTEP. A Haskins team with 5 black starting players beat a KY squad with a guy named Pat Riley to win an NCAA championship in 1966 as depicted in the movie Glory Road.

Friendly edit: It was Texas Western.