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I think that's reading too much in to it. We have quite a few WRs that Diaco has spoken highly of and I believe Shak has been dinged up so probably hasn't been fully evaluated, which is why Diaco can't miss what he's never had.
After all the talk that was given before each season thinking Shak was going to be a big target, other than the Maryland game, I never really saw it. His size was what everybody was excited about, but we never used it. His best play ever, he had to limp into the end zone. If he is in top shape, that probably doesn't happen. I always felt he was overrated. He was needed because we were thin at wideout for years, now we have plenty of talent there. I like the young kids, they are much quicker and have more big play potential from what I can see.
 
Losing Phillips is a loss, no question. When he was on the field he was solid. Losing a player with experience is never a good thing.

With that said, I remain very high on this wr group.
 
After all the talk that was given before each season thinking Shak was going to be a big target, other than the Maryland game, I never really saw it. His size was what everybody was excited about, but we never used it. His best play ever, he had to limp into the end zone. If he is in top shape, that probably doesn't happen. I always felt he was overrated. He was needed because we were thin at wideout for years, now we have plenty of talent there. I like the young kids, they are much quicker and have more big play potential from what I can see.

How do we knock the kid down like that? Doesn't make sense. IF he decides to move on and go back to BC, I wish him nothing but the best. He's a gazillion times more athletic than anybody on this board that judges him.. IF he ends up staying, it's his time ( along with Geremy's ) to BLOW UP...
 
Do you really miss something if what you had was never on the field because of injury anyway?
 
Talented kid. Geremy Davis will be the man this season. Maybe he's looking for someplace where HE can be the man and improve his prospects for the League.

Not smart imho......
 
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I hope he finishes his course work and earns his UCONN degree, if indeed he's gotten himself into position to have the opportunity to do so over the next few months. That's important for the young man, andno matter what the reasoning as why, he's out of the program, and that means he's got his own interests as top priority now, and earning that degree would seem to be a good idea to put on top as a personal priority - for whatever reason, doesn't really matter to me.

What's important, I think, to the program is that the people that take to the meeting rooms, the practice facilities and fields, the weight and training rooms, and then the game field itself, all have everything - EVERYTHING - squared away and moving in the right direction for themselves, their immediate position group teammates, and the whole team with regards to football, as well as school and personally - all of it - working to help the team win. This player is no longer part of that.

I wish him luck wherever he goes, and thanks for his time with UCONN football.
 
I would be really upset if he had like 3-4 years of eligibility left. SP wasn't going to make or break us either way. Perspective is key here.

HFD is going off on twitter.
 
How do we knock the kid down like that? Doesn't make sense. IF he decides to move on and go back to BC, I wish him nothing but the best. He's a gazillion times more athletic than anybody on this board that judges him.. IF he ends up staying, it's his time ( along with Geremy's ) to BLOW UP...

Great point. If the rules allow BC, so be it. Leave irrational pettiness to the likes of Flipper, the nut case/wack job.
 
Time to move on to the next Husky wide receiver.

I wish him well wherever he ends up.."except BCU."
 
What is HFD's handle on twitter? I could use a chuckle.
 
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Top 6 WR's from what I've seen in games and the Spring Game......

1. Davis
2. Foxx
3. Abrams
4. Bradley
5. Lemelle
6. Lucas

Noel Thomas also in the mix. John Green?
 
Top 6 WR's from what I've seen in games and the Spring Game.

1. Davis
2. Foxx
3. Abrams
4. Bradley
5. Lemelle
6. Lucas

Noel Thomas also in the mix. John Green?
I could have sworn Diaco was throwing some praise John Green's way.
 
He's not transferring to BC.

Here's a list of all of BC's master's programs: https://www.bc.edu/content/bc/schools/gsas/academics/academic_departments.html

There's Business, Education, Law, Nursing.

The only possibility I see is for Catholic Theology (UConn has a degree in Jewish Theology).

He can only transfer to a school with a program that UConn does NOT have.
So explain the following graduating with fifth year eligibility transfers to me -
From UF to BC - Matt Patchen, Tyler Murphy
From LSU to?? Steven Rivers
UF to ND - Cody Riggs
ND to Miami of OH - Andrew Hendrix
NC State to ?? Andrew Thomas
Ill to ?? - Houston Bates

That is just a handful of the dozens that happened last year and will happen this year. I could go on if you want.

You can't be so naive to believe that all these kids are transferring into some other degree not offered at their school. If Uconn lets him free (which it sure sounds like they are doing), he will transfer anywhere he wants. Including BC if that is who he wants.
 
So explain the following graduating with fifth year eligibility transfers to me -
From UF to BC - Matt Patchen, Tyler Murphy
From LSU to?? Steven Rivers
UF to ND - Cody Riggs
ND to Miami of OH - Andrew Hendrix
NC State to ?? Andrew Thomas
Ill to ?? - Houston Bates

That is just a handful of the dozens that happened last year and will happen this year. I could go on if you want.

You can't be so naive to believe that all these kids are transferring into some other degree not offered at their school. If Uconn lets him free (which it sure sounds like they are doing), he will transfer anywhere he wants. Including BC if that is who he wants.

Other than it being an actual NCAA rule you mean?
 
Wish Shak nothing but the best wherever he ends up. Always will be a part of the Husky family.

This will definitely slot Foxx and Abrams up. Not sure if they'll keep Foxx in a slot position and bump up the next best wideout. Or will they bump up Foxx and try to plug someone else in in the slot. I guess it doesn't matter since they can feature multiple looks anyway.
 
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Other than it being an actual NCAA rule you mean?
How do all of these kids transfer for fifth years? Patchen, Murphy worked on their MBA's at BC. UF has an MBA program. So, what are the exceptions to the rule? If the school lets him off the hook. It happens all the time and it should happen here. BC allowed him to transfer to Uconn, or is that conveniently fogotten?And before you ask, schools do put restrictions transfers. Like not within the conference. I think the alternate degree rule is for not sitting a year for undergrad transfers, too. Other undergrad exception I think is hardship (ie - going closer to home to be near an ill parent).

The more I think about, and I don't have time to look up the rules, I am fairly certain if the kid graduates, they have no further obligation to the school unless the school extends a scholarship that covers his grad work and he accepts. No other explanation why fifth year, post grad transfers happen so often and so easily.
 
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Interesting that Phillips may return to the program from which he originally transferred. C'est la Vie. Next man up (assuming Phillips would be a starter).
 
Other than it being an actual NCAA rule you mean?
Quote from the attached article -
All that is at work in the graduate transfer exception. To qualify to be immediately eligible upon transferring schools, the “student-athlete” must complete degree work at his current institution and then pursue an advanced degree at his new school.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-ba...ated-not-blasted-by-coaches-such-as-tom-izzo-

Although I am sure upstater will insist I am wrong.
 
So explain the following graduating with fifth year eligibility transfers to me -
From UF to BC - Matt Patchen, Tyler Murphy
From LSU to?? Steven Rivers
UF to ND - Cody Riggs
ND to Miami of OH - Andrew Hendrix
NC State to ?? Andrew Thomas
Ill to ?? - Houston Bates

That is just a handful of the dozens that happened last year and will happen this year. I could go on if you want.

You can't be so naive to believe that all these kids are transferring into some other degree not offered at their school. If Uconn lets him free (which it sure sounds like they are doing), he will transfer anywhere he wants. Including BC if that is who he wants.

It's an NCAA rule.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/06/27/wilson.transfer.wisconsin/

Wilson, a Colorado Rockies minor-leaguer who cut short his single-A season to play one more year of college football, can play immediately at Wisconsin because he already earned a bachelor's degree (in communications) at N.C. State. The NCAA allows a one-time exception for graduate students that eliminates the sit-out year that accompanies most transfers. As long as Wilson enrolls in a graduate program at Wisconsin that N.C. State doesn't offer, he can play in 2011.
 
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I said I hope I am wrong. But tell me the last time a starting skill position player transferred going into his last season?

Of course, there may be many reasons and truthfully it isn't our business. I believe the Coach made a recent statement about the importance of running the ball. Again, we will probably never know and the world will keep spinning. Just would have been nice seeing GD and Shak and a competent QB for an entire season.
 
I said I hope I am wrong. But tell me the last time a starting skill position player transferred going into his last season?

Of course, there may be many reasons and truthfully it isn't our business. I believe the Coach made a recent statement about the importance of running the ball. Again, we will probably never know and the world will keep spinning. Just would have been nice seeing GD and Shak and a competent QB for an entire season.

Robbie Frey.
 
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If the Steven Rivers (formerly of LSU) "06029" is referring to in his post is the brother of Philip Rivers (of San Diego Chargers) he is now with Vanderbilt.

In any case, if that is not one in the same, Philip Rivers has a brother playing at Vanderbilt. My brother saw him in the Spring game.....sugggested he is quite good.
 
It's a rule with this exception -
Or this one, which will be used by more players: The NCAA allows a one-time exception for graduate students that eliminates having to sit out a season — as long as the player would have been academically eligible at his/her original institution . If Lyons completes his undergraduate work, he could be eligible to play in 2012-13 at whichever school he chooses.

Some students go to great lengths to achieve immediate eligibility. Quarterback Garrett Gilbert is taking 27 credits this semester (six regular classes and three online courses), trying to graduate from Texas and play this fall at Southern Methodist, according to the Dallas Morning News.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/spor...all-transfers-brandon-wood-bo-ryan/54557224/1

Okay, so you made look it up in the NCAA by-laws 14,1.8.1 is the exception rule:
14.1.8
Graduate Student/Postbaccalaureate Participation.
A student-athlete who is enrolled in agraduate or professional school of the same institution from which he or she previously received a baccalaureate degree, a student-athlete who is enrolled and seeking a second baccalaureate or equivalent degree at the same institution, or a student-athlete who has graduated and is continuing as a full-time student at the same institutionwhile taking course work that would lead to the equivalent of another major or degree as defined and documented by the institution, may participate in intercollegiate athletics, provided the student has eligibility remaining andsuch participation occurs within the applicable five-year period set forth in Bylaw 14.2 (see Bylaw 14.1.7.2.1.4).
(Revised: 1/10/90, 1/16/93 effective 8/1/93)
14.1.8.1
One-Time Transfer Exception.
A graduate student who is enrolled in a graduate or professional school of an institution other than the institution from which he or she previously received a baccalaureate degree may participate in intercollegiate athletics if the student fulfills the conditions of the one-time transfere xception set forth in Bylaw 14.5.5.2.10 and has eligibility remaining per Bylaw 14.2. A graduate student who does not meet the one-time transfer exception due to the restrictions of Bylaw 14.5.5.2.10-(a) shall qualify for
this exception, provided:
(a)The student fulfills the remaining conditions of Bylaw 14.5.5.2.10;
(b) The student has at least one season of competition remaining; and
(c) The student’s previous institution did not renew his or her athletically related financial aid for the following academic year
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Bottom line, if you graduate, you can transfer anywhere you want if the school let's you go free if you have 1 year left. There is no degree/major requirement. The exception is so big that a lot of BB coaches have been trying to close it.
 
I said I hope I am wrong. But tell me the last time a starting skill position player transferred going into his last season?

Of course, there may be many reasons and truthfully it isn't our business. I believe the Coach made a recent statement about the importance of running the ball. Again, we will probably never know and the world will keep spinning. Just would have been nice seeing GD and Shak and a competent QB for an entire season.

You could be right..but without hearing from him (and no real answer from Diaco)...it is one of many possible reasons....

Other potential reasons....
- He was going to lose his starting position
- Didn't get along with new coaching staff
- Didn't like new workout expectations
- Prefers bigger city atmosphere
- girlfriend graduating and wanted to stay close to her
- wanted to be a #1 and Davis was #1
- doesn't like new helmets (just joking Freescooter ;))
- doesn't think UConn plays teams that will get him exposure

Who knows what kids are thinking....but he seemed like a good guy and he did a good job so I wish him well.
 
Bottom line, if you graduate, you can transfer anywhere you want if the school let's you go free if you have 1 year left. There is no degree/major requirement. The exception is so big that a lot of BB coaches have been trying to close it.

So, essentially, if your school does not release you, then you can't go and play unless you are going for a degree that your school doesn't offer. But if your school agrees to terminate your scholarship, then you can go play elsewhere regardless of degree.
 
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