Seton HeII Post Game Thread

[EnochRoot]

Ball was pushed by 1st defender into #7- watch again, the first defender shoves him with both hands and knocked Solo off balance.

Yep. Just saw it. Thanks.

 

[Deleted at users request]

This is UConn. The bluest of blue bloods. That doesn’t bode well here. Hurley can’t be more blatant. He was even quoted recently that this time of year, you play who can help you win. Look at today’s box score. Mahaney and Ross had 4 minutes, Reed had 9, Stewart 18(because Diarra was hobbled). That says all you need to know what he thinks of our bench.
This is an elite staff who made some mistakes this year. With their success, we can live with that. There is no doubt in my mind they will make the necessary adjustments this offseason. But again, if you aren’t playing now, with this team, there is a reason why. If you are looking to develop on the court, drop down a level.

Lol, we don’t want to develop players here? Man wtf are you talking about.

 

[BPT2Storrs]

Obviously this was a tough loss but I am not putting this all on the coaches as most of you are. First and foremost, on the inbounds woes - it’s not like the team doesn’t practice for this. We were pressured like crazy in the St John’s game but were still able to inbound the ball. Seton Hall for some reason played lock down D. Ball also fell at one point and Karaban called the TO with none left. McNeeley launched the ball out of bounds. No matter what you practice, in game experience will always be different. I am not making excuses but it just didn’t go our way. It happens in sports all the time.

Second, how many guys were lost to the NBA over these past two seasons? We don’t have the same talent. Karaban is an all time UConn legend but he is not a #1 option. This team runs through McNeeley and he was out 8 games this year. That coupled with Karaban’s shooting slump and Diarra’s injury has basically meant that we were without three starters a majority of Big East play. Any team down three starter is going to lose some games. Fortunately for us is that we have been close in a lot of them. I think that bodes well for us down the stretch.

The Big East is a gauntlet. It’s like divisional NFL games - you are always going to get the absolute best out of your opponent. We are the two time defending champs. Seton Hall has absolutely nothing to play for. They were
Not going to just roll over and let us cake walk to victory. We were flat, Karaban said it was the players and I believe that. Hopefully this is a wake up call.

Finally, officiating. I’m not using it as an excuse but it’s been abysmal all season and today was no different. People are upset at the Ball foul at the end on the three point shooter but he played great defense the shooter was just able draw contact by falling into him. I hate that rule but it is what it is.

We have some great wins. Marquette and Creighton on the road. A very tough loss to St John’s. We can compete with anyone and I still think winning the BET is possible. I haven’t lost faith in this team. Karaban looks like he broken out of his slump. Diarra played well today and appears on the mend. McNeeley is McNeeley. I still think we can make a run.

 

[RuffRuff]

Apologies if you’re being sarcastic but if not… wtf are you talking about? We played horribly. Should have never been in the refs’ hands there, but #7 just tackles Solo. It was 1000% a foul.

The back defender did have his hands on him.

Solo could have just stood there and it would have been a better outcome.

 

[Shamon30]

Wasn't that in the NCAA Tournament? How is an NCAA Tournament game loss worse than blowing 7 and 5 pt. leads in regulation and OT to a 6-18 injury riddled Seton Hall team that's lost 9 or 10 and just lost their last game at home to DePaul by 25?

Namely because it ended the season

 

[LetsGoUC]

so gross and so pathetic....were a tournament team still right.....RIGHT?! now im nervous again.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I refuse to acknowledge that this game occurred. I have expunged it from existence. Best if we all do the same.

 

[Mike Honcho]

Why is Reed sticking his hands in on a player outside the 3 point line? Johnson does this too at times. I don’t understand that.

That was a freshman mistake out of a junior. Complete brain fart. We had more than our fair share of those brain-dead moments from everyone. Solo fouling a 3-point shooter is another example.

We almost made out well, given the dude is a 25% FT shooter. And then he hits two, lol.

 

[superjohn]

Now I'm completely lost.

You responded to a tweet by a player (Alex Karaban) where he stated the players need to take these games more seriously by claiming ?Hurley needs to take that on himself and taske pressure off Karaban.

I askes you to elaborate on that, and pointed out that a hall of fame coach with considerably more experience in life and ib coaching college basketball at the highest level at the time wasn't able to get a team to put in the effort needed (implying that maybe it isn't always the coach).

Your response is that he coached a horrible game. Evidently you berlieve that the level of effort the entire team puts into each game is duer to Hurley's coaching that day (and perhaps how many minutes he gives Reed).

Did you type this under duress?

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Did you type this under duress?

You're beginning to copy another poster's MO.

 

[TheHorde]

That was a freshman mistake out of a junior. Complete brain fart. We had more than our fair share of those brain-dead moments from everyone. Solo fouling a 3-point shooter is another example.

We almost made out well, given the dude is a 25% FT shooter. And then he hits two, lol.

And got a shooter’s bounce on the first one that would have made Steph Curry blush lol

 

[superjohn]

You're beginning to copy another poster's MO.

Who? Your post was illegible.

I said this is a bad sign because that performance is on Hurley and AK as a captain is putting it all on himself and his teammates and giving his coaches a free pass. I don't like hearing AK who has put way too much pressure on himself all season saying what he said.

 

[RuffRuff]

#7 did not tackle Solo. Solo ran into #7 and then fell.

I'm sorry, but that's not a cut and dried foul. It looked like Ball lost control (which he did).

It looks like Solo fumbles forward into the defender - which to me is NOT a foul on that defender. But if you look more closely the other defender does have his hands on Solos back, to what extend he pushed is hard to determine. It should be a foul for just having both hands on him.

 

[Drfla]

Lol, we don’t want to develop players here? Man wtf are you talking about.

We may want to develop players but to be honest, we didn’t develop anyone last year ( unless you consider Ball who is definitely improved but still has a lot of holes in his game) and no one else either last year or this year.
I for one don’t have any confidence in Stewart or Ross for next season and we have no idea what Nowell or Abraham can bring to the table.

 

[jibsey]

We may want to develop players but to be honest, we didn’t develop anyone last year ( unless you consider Ball who is definitely improved but still has a lot of holes in his game) and no one else either last year or this year.
I for one don’t have any confidence in Stewart or Ross for next season and we have no idea what Nowell or Abraham can bring to the table.

You’re right, other than practice Nowell and Abraham are starting from scratch next season. Since we can’t rely on Mahaney all we have is Reed as a senior?

 

[UCan3]

I refuse to acknowledge that this game occurred. I have expunged it from existence. Best if we all do the same.

Actually with all due respect, this game should not be forgotten, not this season.

St. John’s loss I was fine with.

Others were okay, stung but we move on.

But this one has a stank - a reminder that were not as good as we think we are and must fight to win games.

A reminder players can’t take plays off.

A reminder that we can’t count on officiating to bail us out.

A reminder that the 3 peat was an illusion and we need simply be the best version of this team as posssibe.

 

[Viet Vet]

Stop it. 13.5 point favorites, shouldn’t even be in this position. Keep blaming the refs.

Not the refs, Not the refs, Not the refs. Stop the "It's not my fault" mantra.

 

[Deleted at users request]

We may want to develop players but to be honest, we didn’t develop anyone last year ( unless you consider Ball who is definitely improved but still has a lot of holes in his game) and no one else either last year or this year.
I for one don’t have any confidence in Stewart or Ross for next season and we have no idea what Nowell or Abraham can bring to the table.

You’re right we didn’t develop anyone last year seriously. The only thing we tried to get Ball and Stewart to do were shoot 3s and play defense. Didn’t look to develop any other skills and then become surprised that’s all that they can look to do consistently this year.

Guys aren’t going to get better unless coaches challenge them to do more to improve and live with the mistakes as they do so.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

The back defender did have his hands on him.

Solo could have just stood there and it would have been a better outcome.

He got tackled…. It was a horrendous no-call but again, should never have been remotely in that position so I can’t get too worked up about it.

 

[EnochRoot]

It looks like Solo fumbles forward into the defender - which to me is NOT a foul on that defender. But if you look more closely the other defender does have his hands on Solos back, to what extend he pushed is hard to determine. It should be a foul for just having both hands on him.

Agreed. I acknowledged that a half hour ago. (o;

 

[Viet Vet]

When Ball missed his second free-throw with 18 seconds to go, why did we let Wusu score on a simple layup taking only six seconds off the clock? Literally unimpeded.

I understand don’t do stupid fouls, but that doesn’t mean don’t play any defense whatsoever.

A layup is way easier than two free throws, especially with a guy who shoots 65% from the line.

No kidding. Do we have anybody who understands probability? Duh.

 

[uconngb]

Liam singlehandedly won the last game. Instead of all the limelight being on Liam coach decided to get into it with the few remaining Creighton fans.

I don't mind being cocky but he's taking it to horses arse levels and he doesn't have the team to back it up. He had a confident swagger last season because he had a bunch of NBA players and uniquely savvy kids who could blow everyone out. Now his mouth is writing checks...

Have a damn inbounds play, have a damn play to throw it into your big for a bucket when the other team doesn't have any bigs. Play your most talented big.

I love the guy but he needs to be humbled. We're seeing someone who is too arrogant and too stubborn right now.

Yrs we are….,and it is being tossed into his face in a BIG TIME way

 

[uconngb]

We lost 4 starters and moved the guy who was 5th in our depth chart to first. We relied on two career bench guys to man our pg and center position. The pg can’t shoot and the center can’t rebound. We were overly reliant on a freshman and a bunch of sophomores who didn’t play the year before. All while having the target of b2b national champs on our back. The writing was always on the wall. This was a rebuild year. It’s clear now.

Hurley gets a pass this season. He’s more than earned that. But we need to construct a better more cohesive roster next season.

L O L

 

[SYF75]

Just not that good/consistent this year ...horrible loss...hurley knows and dies internally by this shit....goes back to the rarest of rare back to back natties which is forgotten quickly, losing 4 fckn studs, overrated to start the year and don't forget how bad ollie years got and how great hurley brought this shit back is forgotten quickly... I said bubble team and it is what we are... may not even make it but you never know....get in the top 5 byes in the BE tourney which means we need at least 4/6 wins in remaining games and we'll see....BE not great this year overall so you never know....i think when kids are getting paid they lay down at times...i know most adults do at their jobs and thats part of the problem....go huskies!!!

 

[Viet Vet]

Sweet Sixteen at best.

 

[uconngb]

Hurley is loyal to a fault. He always gives the guys with seniority a longer leash. It works when those guys are Hawkins, Adama, Newton, Clingan, and Ajax. It doesn’t work when those guys are Samson Johnson, gaffney, Polley, etc.

Not loyal…,,STUBBORN

big difference

 

[Deleted at users request]

Not loyal…,,STUBBORN

big difference

I promise if we quit on our guys and hit the portal next year it’ll look more like 2022 than 23 or 24.

 

[uconngb]

And it sets us up for an interesting offseason. Hurley has deemed several players unplayable for this whole season and we have one kid who he misjudged as a player and it's all too much for him.

I hope Nowell and Abraham bolt. They have every right to

 

[EnochRoot]

We lost 4 starters and moved the guy who was 5th in our depth chart to first. We relied on two career bench guys to man our pg and center position. The pg can’t shoot and the center can’t rebound. We were overly reliant on a freshman and a bunch of sophomores who didn’t play the year before. All while having the target of b2b national champs on our back. The writing was always on the wall. This was a rebuild year. It’s clear now.

Hurley gets a pass this season. He’s more than earned that. But we need to construct a better more cohesive roster next season.

L O L

What did AntG say that you disagree with? I mean, he laid it all out pretty accurately.

 

[uconngb]

Meh.

The sophomores aren’t very good - like, really, not very good. We have one spot up shooter in the bunch and none of them can do anything else.

If they’re keeping these freshmen on the bench, we need to question why we’re recruiting a half dozen players who can’t play.

You mean maybe we don’t have the best effen coach in the country??? Im sure that is news to him.