Seton Hall Post Game Thread

[housekeys]

The most WTF call last night had to be the UConn defense making 2 clean blocks with the end of the shot clock happening, only to be interrupted by a whistle calling a foul on UConn with players fighting for a loose ball. SH got rewarded with FT's thanks to the whistle, from the ref only feet away from Halloway.

 

[thekollieman]

Thank you. That's how I grew up thinking of it too. Those first 3 single bonus foul shots always made me extra nervous, one miss = TO. I'm glad I don't have to shoot FT's for a living.

No doubt. Free throws are far from free psychologically. That’s why I’ve always thought it’s one of the most badass things for a player to be elite at. In the Shaq docuseries there were multiple accounts of Shaq being great at free throws in practice… seems crazy but it’s understandable. From my experience with the mere pressure of CT Class S, I can only extrapolate the pressure of having an in-game strategy named after your poor free throw shooting on basketball’s highest level lol.

 

[UCMB88]

Also, shoutout to TruTV for using the smallest font in broadcast history for the team fouls. If it weren’t for the ESPN app I’d have been walking across the room to check the numbers.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought the same thing! And using white typeface over that white marble background on the SH side was brutal too. Hate truTV's scorebug!

 

[nelsonmuntz]

was there too:

1. When Braylon or more often Silas was dribbling north-south to drive they were routinely bumped enough to change their direction somewhat.
2. Early on a seton hall player got caught in the air coming down on Tarris - no call
3. lack of calls against SH include over the back, moving screens, hard bumps, hands pulling jerseys.
4. Calls on us included straight up defenses, barely a touch or on AK two phantom calls.

40+ whistles and at some point all of us in sec 6 were feeling the refs let this get out of hand.

Main culprit - John Gaffney

Why is there a conspiracy by all the officials to get UConn?

 

[freshler40]

This is exactly right.

One thing I found befuddling. Late in the game, after SH scores, Karaban would grab the ball and.... the rest of the team would wait before getting into their action. There was almost no urgency getting the ball inbounds until a couple of seconds into the five count. When the ball goes though the net, they should be ready to go. Maybe, they have to wait for a sign from the bench or someone on the court. But if so, that operation should start faster. I really don't understand why they are so lackadaisical starting their action.

A sore spot for sure and covering many tight past games. Karaban seems to be the chosen in bounder. Perhaps this is to have the faster, more adept guards to be the ball handlers. This continued delay in getting the ball in play is a serious deficiency at critical times IMO.

Why allow the defense to set up and waste time outs?? Why not, as in most girl games, have our center come to the mid court? We also tend to trap ourselves in the corners. Why? We almost always want to dribble across half court. Why? Much of our offence is dependent upon playing a long shot clock. Well, we are 17-1 so what do I know?

 

[freshler40]

Absolutely correct. Aside from Louisville, this is why UConn had to carry the conference in the Tournament for decades. Pitt is another famous example.

The Big East loves its reputation, but it makes for a horrible product and risks killing its golden goose. Short-sighted and dumb.

It also makes everyone injury prone, long games and nearly an unwatchable product at time. I think the NBA recently cracked down on this type of play which is more like hockey led by goons. The quarterback ass lift is another of this type of questionable play being reviewed.

 

[7774]

He still hasn't talked to Jeff Epstein the New York financier.

I'm pretty sure if there was some news about Jeff Epstein he would have heard.

 

[uconnfan68]

If Tarris made his free throws, it would have never even have gotten close. They played hack a Tarris with him and it almost worked.

Their 80+% shooters didn't shoot well either.

 

[aceboon]

Their 80+% shooters didn't shoot well either.

AK, Braylon, Silas, and Solo shot a combined 11/13 from the line

 

[uconnfan68]

It also bothered me that the refs missed about 10 foul calls on Tarris, so on my personal stat sheet I'm marking him down for 29 missed FTs. Going to be tough to win if he keeps that up

I think he'd get more calls if he was over the rim. He rarely plays above it.

 

[uconnfan68]

AK, Braylon, Silas, and Solo shot a combined 11/13 from the line

SH's shooters, not ours. I think both teams missed 10.

 

[aceboon]

SH's shooters, not ours. I think both teams missed 10.

my bad, I misread it

 

[Mr. French]

Why is there a conspiracy by all the officials to get UConn?

It can be incompetence and/or subconsciously wanting the underdog to do well at home as opposed to a conspiracy. But you know that already.

 

[superjohn]

I'm pretty sure if there was some news about Jeff Epstein he would have heard.

The only way to get to the bottom of this is for him to call his friend Ghislaine.

 

[Scrutineer]

With legitimate refs we win that game by 25. Our offense was restricted by holds all game so we had no choice but to go to Reed. And they hacked him at will.

The worst had to be Tarris' two consecutive blocks in the lane where the Seton Hall guy went up and down and instead of calling a travel on SH they called a foul on Tarris.......

 

[superjohn]

The worst had to be Tarris' two consecutive blocks in the lane where the Seton Hall guy went up and down and instead of calling a travel on SH they called a foul on Tarris.......

Tarris blocked Hines twice in a row but they called the foul on AK with one second left on the shot clock for reaching in. AK lightly put his hand on the ball. It was a ridiculous call to end a great defensive possession.

 

[Umami Zen]

Tarris blocked Hines twice in a row but they called the foul on AK with one second left on the shot clock for reaching in. AK lightly put his hand on the ball. It was a ridiculous call to end a great defensive possession.

Looked to me like AK had tied him up-possession arrow call vs a foul. 50/50 ball

 

[Lafayette]

Dan said he was fully healthy last night. I know his numbers were good except free throws but I felt he played “soft” last night. He had a chance to power dunk a few last night and didn’t. Don’t get that. Big dunks can lift a team! I totally understand Dan wanting him to “unleash the bear” but don’t think we’ll see that from him unfortunately. The lack of beast mode is what is holding him back from being all american caliber player. The question I don’t know the answer to is why?

Guessing fatigue - games played with less time off plus workouts and practice. Posted already a bit earlier but glad a week goes by after Georgetown

 

[Lafayette]

Wow, I guess I'm in the minority here. I found that guy entertaining as hell, he was making me chuckle all night.

I have no idea how he didn't lose his voice by the end of the game, lol

That dude was me at BYU game - was right behind broadcasters and had no voice next day. Of course I was the maniacal pro-UConn dude BYU boards probably roasted too

 

[Lafayette]

Why is there a conspiracy by all the officials to get UConn?

In many games we see some level of bad officiating but this game? OMG whole sections of prudential center including seton hall fans alike felt the refs let this one get out of control. Mainly it was Gaffney though.

 

[Storrs South]

In many games we see some level of bad officiating but this game? OMG whole sections of prudential center including seton hall fans alike felt the refs let this one get out of control. Mainly it was Gaffney though.

Gaffney was an absolute dumpster fire

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Looked to me like AK had tied him up-possession arrow call vs a foul. 50/50 ball

That should have been ruled a jump ball, but it shouldn't have gone that far as Tarris' first block (of two) immediately before that also should have called a jump ball

 

[Umami Zen]

That should have been ruled a jump ball, but it shouldn't have gone that far as Tarris' first block (of two) immediately before that also should have called a jump ball

Agree with you. TR had all ball on the first shot

 

[dalydosehoops]

Nicely written story, including some unique quotes that I hadn't seen elsewhere.

Thanks! Bobby Mullen got Braylon, Tarris and Silas for us in postgame scrums after the formal presser with Tarris, Silas, Alex and Dan.

 

[DogMania]

In many games we see some level of bad officiating but this game? OMG whole sections of prudential center including seton hall fans alike felt the refs let this one get out of control. Mainly it was Gaffney though.

It was one of the worst officiated game I've seen in some time. From the jump they decided not to call any SH bumping, reaching in and grabbing off the ball. They started to blow their whistle on some of it in the second half, but the damage was already done empowering the Seton Hall players to make it a rock fight throughout most of the game.

And it was another example where the officiating was called differently on each end of the floor. There were some touch fouls that were called against UConn where moments earlier on the other end of the floor there was much more physical contact by the Pirates that was ignored. I remember Hurley going out of his mind during one sequence where that happened.

I usually prefer to watch a game we're less fouls are called, but not when the game turns into a wrestling match where neither the players nor the fans I want to witness. At least 30 minutes of that game was not much fun to watch whatsoever.

I don't know about any of you, but down the stretch of that game, I couldn't wait for it to be over and was praying that it would not go into overtime. That can't be good for the Big East to have that type of product.

Does the leadership of the Big East have any meetings or calls with the officials to discuss how games are being called? It seems the way that games are called in various conferences aren't all the same.