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Selection Monday

I give the reveal show a pass for the overall #1 comment. It was the first reveal and they likely assumed the #1 overall would be announced first like usual. Order of reveal was weird. I just listened to Jeff Waltz comments. I think he was happy her didn't draw UConn again and thinks that helps his chances. I just hope Geno being missing does not effect any outcomes. Is there a chance of a false positive? That actually seems more likely than a real positive given everything we know. Funniest result will be if final 4 is chalk given all the talk about how different this year will be.
 
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Top to bottom, UConn is in the toughest region. So many teams from power conferences that are used to playing top competition. Thats what you want to avoid. Could have close, scary games from Round 2 on...Then, playing a big, "unknown" Baylor team in their backyard in the E8? That game might be a toss-up. Geno/CD will really have to earn #12. But, if they do win #12, the Paige Legend will continue to grow!
 
Nick Pignatello said:
No where do you extrapolate questioning a 500 team with no ooc games getting in with the conference champions, A program with an actual recent resume getting a top seed.
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The committee tries to select the best available teams for the at-large pool.

Given the level of competition in some conferences, it is certainly feasible for a team with a sub-.500 conference record to be one of the 32 (or 33, this year) best available at-large teams.

If you think a team with a sub-.500 conference record should be automatically ineligible, then your issue is not with tonight's selection decisions; it's with the rules adopted well in advance for the sport. Maybe try writing your congresspeople.
 
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Baylor 1994. In almost 20 years of being a guest on this Board I've tried to keep intra-university banter on our own Board. See me as SSadler on Sic'em365 and let's talk, leaving these gracious fans without us cluttering their Board. Just a suggestion.
 
Lorcan said:
Alamo

1. Stanford
16. Utah Valley

8. Oklahoma State
9. Wake Forest

5. Missouri State
12. UC Davis

4. Arkansas
13. Wright State

6. Oregon
11. South Dakota

3. Georgia
14. Drexel

7. Northwestern
10. UCF

2. Louisville
15. Marist

Mercado:

1. NC State
16. North Carolina A&T

8. South Florida
9. Washington State

5. Gonzaga
12. Belmont

4. Indiana
13. Virginia Commonwealth

6. Rutgers
11. BYU

3. Arizona
14. Stony Brook

7. Iowa State
10. Michigan State

2. TAMU
15. Troy

Riverwalk

1. UConn
16. High Point

8. Syracuse
9. South Dakota State

5. Iowa
12. Central Michigan (WOW. Caitlin Clark vs. Micaela Kelly! This will be fireworks!)

4. Kentucky
13. Idaho State

3. Tenneessee
14. Middle Tennessee

6. Michigan
11. Florida Gulf Coast

7. Virginia Tech
10. Marquette

2. Baylor
15. Jackson State

Heimsfair.

1. South Carolina
16. Mercer

8. Oregon State
9. Florida State

5. Georgia Tech
12. Stephen F. Austin

4. West Virginia
13. Lehigh

6. Texas
11. Bradley

3. UCLA
14. Wyoming

7. Alabama
10. North Carolina

2. Maryland
15. Mount St. Mary's
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I like Florida Gulf Coast as Cinderella to Face UCONN in elite Eight & finally get "CRUSHED" after multiple buzzer-beaters to get there. CD remains UNDEFEATED as she gets the Huskies to another Final FOUR in this weirdest of years.....
 
BostonBay said:
Top to bottom, UConn is in the toughest region. So many teams from power conferences that are used to playing top competition. Thats what you want to avoid. Could have close, scary games from Round 2 on...Then, playing a big, "unknown" Baylor team in their backyard in the E8? That game might be a toss-up. Geno/CD will really have to earn #12. But, if they do win #12, the Paige Legend will continue to grow!
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"So many"?

South Dakota State is the 9 seed that UConn may face in round 2.
Marquette, FGCU and Central Michigan are the 10-12 seeds in UConn's region.

Are you nervous that UConn can't beat Syracuse? Or the winner of Kentucky/Iowa? If so, then maybe UConn shouldn't even be a 1 seed.
 
Plebe said:
You seem to be hung up on this. I often hear people throw out this arbitrary criterion. Not sure why arbitrarily pick .500 as the threshold. Why not .550? Or .600?
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The problem with the .500 in conference record is that, like the teams themselves, conference aren't all equal, sometimes dramatically so. So a team that finishes a game below .500 in Conference A could be superior to a team that finishes 3 games above .500 in Conference B. The arbitrariness of the standard means the team from Conf. A cannot be in the field while the team from Conf. B might be in. In fact, the team from Conf. B could make the tournament specifically because the Conf. A team was excluded. While it might be silly to include teams that didn't win at least half its conference games, it would be even sillier to exclude them on that criteria alone.
 
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Plebe said:
The committee tries to select the best available teams for the at-large pool.

Given the level of competition in some conferences, it is certainly feasible for a team with a sub-.500 conference record to be one of the 32 (or 33, this year) best available at-large teams.

If you think a team with a sub-.500 conference record should be automatically ineligible, then your issue is not with tonight's selection decisions; it's with the rules adopted well in advance for the sport. Maybe try writing your congresspeople.
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WTF does writing a congressman have to do with having an opinion that a mediocre team, or less than mediocre team should not get an invite over a team that actually showed it could win more than half their games. I would rather see the mid majors get more respect from the committee than propping up P5 also rans.
 
UConn plays opening round game in Alamodome, so at least it doesn't have to deal with being over in Austin/SanM, or changing venues or hotels multiple times thru the tournament.
 
Plebe said:
"So many"?

South Dakota State is the 9 seed that UConn may face in round 2.
Marquette, FGCU and Central Michigan are the 10-12 seeds in UConn's region.

Are you nervous that UConn can't beat Syracuse? Or the winner of Kentucky/Iowa? If so, then maybe UConn shouldn't even be a 1 seed.
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This type of reaction seems to happen every year. I don't get it. Rinse wash repeat. I'm pretty sure there's been hand wringing over Syracuse before, but this year? Why?
 
RegisteredUconn said:
The problem with the .500 in conference record is that, like the teams themselves, conference aren't all equal, sometimes dramatically so. So a team that finishes a game below .500 in Conference A could be superior to a team that finishes 3 games above .500 in Conference B. The arbitrariness of the standard means the team from Conf. A cannot be in the field while the team from Conf. B might be in. In fact, the team from Conf. B could make the tournament specifically because the Conf. A team was excluded. While it might be silly to include teams that didn't win at least half its conference games, it would be even sillier to exclude them on that criteria alone.
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I am talking about excluding teams with much better records. And since the teams I mentioned have no major ooc wins this year or even a recent historical resume. My opinion is as valid as yours.
 
LETTERL said:
Harper gets that distinction by coaching 1 -- count 'em -- 1 NCAAT game with NC State, with players left to her by the late Kay Yow. We lost to UCLA (coached at the time by Nikki Caldwell) in the first round.
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willtalk said:
Well I watch the show on ESPNU and they basically did the same thing. The did a long story on DiDi injury and rehab and inteviewed Georga coach but nothing else. Did a little bit on Baylor but no break downs on any matchups. They said their would be a program tomorrow for that, but lets wait and see. They really were not prepared to do any breakdowns today.

I don't care if it isn't politically correct and I am sure there are qualified women out there but the people ESPN hires to do these programs have a hard time staying on topic. This is expecially true when the announce games. They are not good representatives of women in sports in the field of sports reporting. Probably because they hire ex players and coaches that have very little announcing talent. This is ironic because women have complained for years about the good ole boy system that kept them as ousiders. Well what do they do? They establish their own good ol girl system of insiders that keeps real sports announcers and analysts on the outs.

There are a number of reasons that there is more parity in womens basketball. One of them is that the level of coaching has improved via more competition. In the past there were just a few good coaches and the rest were ex players who thought having played was enough. The problem was that the game had advanced so much and the athletes were so much better that the system of coaching most of those players studied under and learned from was obsolite. There were many schools who would not even consider hiring a male coach. Good ole girl system in practice.
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I think two things - The best women that networks develop in sports seem to be constantly moved into (or choose to move into) the bigger money sports. The networks do it partly to improve their image of being a progressive employer, and the employees do it because the pay is better. It will continue to be an issue as long as the men's sports carry better ratings and more cash. Golf and Tennis which are pretty close to equal have I think the best and comparable quality reporters/analysts between the genders.

The biggest change in coaching that has occurred is money - at the D1 level very few coaches were making a primary breadwinner living wage forty years ago. When Geno started I have no idea what his wage was, but he was certainly not on the gravy train. That has changed big time and assistant coaches in the big programs are making good money. That changes who can actually take coaching jobs, and who can make a career choice to stay coaching when they marry and have kids.

When Geno started there weren't many men in the profession and as the money increased there was some resentment that suddenly men were applying for jobs they never wanted before. I think it was never a really big deal, but it was real and understandable seeing as no one was looking to hire women in the men's sports. I think the worst of it has disappeared and the 'old guard' is now Geno and Tara and Gary, and CViv.
 
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Plebe said:
UConn-NCSt
Stanford-SC
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Most important for me was preserving the possibility that Geno and Tara can meet in the finals. In a season in which they both broke Pat's record, and with both teams coming back after some down seasons, that would be the ideal way to end the season, IMHO. Now just need Kim and Dawn to btfu. :D
 
baylorprof said:
Baylor 1994. In almost 20 years of being a guest on this Board I've tried to keep intra-university banter on our own Board. See me as SSadler on Sic'em365 and let's talk, leaving these gracious fans without us cluttering their Board. Just a suggestion.
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Prof - a little banter can be fun. Always enjoy having Baylor and other school's fans here - with the creation of the General WCBB board on the boneyard and all the general WCBB threads being moved there, unfortunately we see them less on the Uconn specific board. If we meet up in the E8 it should be a great game!
 
DefenseBB said:
Q1 Easily
Q2 They don’t have to as Tenn will beat them...
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arlene dickinson no GIF by CBC
 
Plebe said:
As they should. They should bring it with all they got.

They are a 3-point shooting team, averaging more than 10 made 3's per game. (@triaddukefan has dubbed them FGCU-North.) That at least gives them a wild puncher's chance.
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10 3's equal 30 points, Final score 90-30 :)
 
WFFL said:
I think we have the toughest bracket star player wise . If we can come out this region I like our chances to win the title. The cuse will be a tough out if we get them2nd rd
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Your joking right ?
 
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TheFarmFan said:
Most important for me was preserving the possibility that Geno and Tara can meet in the finals. In a season in which they both broke Pat's record, and with both teams coming back after some down seasons, that would be the ideal way to end the season, IMHO. Now just need Kim and Dawn to btfu. :D
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We have never met in the finals - been at the same but if we met it was in the semis.

That would be cool and hadn't thought about the passing Pat sidebar to a possible meeting.
 
UcMiami said:
We have never met in the finals - been at the same but if we met it was in the semis.

That would be cool and hadn't thought about the passing Pat sidebar to a possible meeting.
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UConn and Stanford met at least once in the finals -- either 2009 or 2010. That was the game where UConn's offense just wasn't working, and the halftime score was 20-12 in favor of Stanford. UConn eventually won (I believe by 53-47), holding Jayne Appel to zero points.
 
Uconn beat Stanford in San Antonio in 2010, 53 to 47. Poor first half, like 15 points per side
 
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