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Love samuel but trying to play devils advocate here... his jumper that we saw was beyond ugly. They played off him because we had 2 elite guards.. would love nothing but to see him become an elite guard. But lets be honest with ourselves... he was more like a 2011 donnel Beverly than he was a 2011 napier... he has the inner city im going to out work you mentality but has yet to show the pure all around guard skills.. hope he does.
 
UcannUconn said:
Love samuel but trying to play devils advocate here... his jumper that we saw was beyond ugly. They played off him because we had 2 elite guards...
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And now we have three elite guards.
 
UcannUconn said:
Love samuel but trying to play devils advocate here... his jumper that we saw was beyond ugly. They played off him because we had 2 elite guards.. would love nothing but to see him become an elite guard. But lets be honest with ourselves... he was more like a 2011 donnel Beverly than he was a 2011 napier... he has the inner city im going to out work you mentality but has yet to show the pure all around guard skills.. hope he does.
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Fine, now I'll play devil's advocate...2011 Donnell Beverly??? Samuel was better at getting to the rack and converting than either Boatright or Napier THIS YEAR. His jump shot is a major question mark, but the kid can play; he's already much better than Beverly was as a senior.
 
Rico444 said:
Samuel was better at getting to the rack and converting than either Boatright or Napier THIS YEAR.
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UcannUconn said:
Love samuel but trying to play devils advocate here... his jumper that we saw was beyond ugly. They played off him because we had 2 elite guards.. would love nothing but to see him become an elite guard. But lets be honest with ourselves... he was more like a 2011 donnel Beverly than he was a 2011 napier... he has the inner city im going to out work you mentality but has yet to show the pure all around guard skills.. hope he does.
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I think your basketball IQ is somewhere between a turkey and a cane toad based on this post. :)
 
He's an intangibles type player that contributes in many ways but at this point I don't see him as a game takeover guy like Bazz could be. Thst said, when he was in good stuff happened and next year should be more of the same.
 
I think jibsey is closest to where we should be thinking as of right now……can it all change? Heck yeah he could work so hard and become better than anyone ever imagined, never know.

Tough to compare him to anyone as he has 3 years left but as of now he's certainly more Taliek than Shabazz, but this is from a small sample. Let's let the kids career evolve and see if the hard work elevates all facets of his game to a level many of us figure is not achievable from him. He already is an impact player off the bench, but the question will be can he become a go-to PG and solidify a starters role at some point with all of these great guards coming in during his tenure? We will see……..
 
Don't forget about that really nice 12 foot one handed runner he had down the stretch. T-Sam has some touch. I wish we could pull a shot chart on him.
 
Bryan Lord said:
Eh he hit a three or two. Free throw shooting seemed fine too IIRC. Need more time to judge his JS. right now it's probably a C.
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He wasn't a great outside shooter in HS so we'll have to see but have to love his toughness getting to the rim. He may have improved more than any UConn player over the course of last season.
 
The only real similarities between TS and DB are that they're of a similar build and have kind of an awkward-looking handle. Love DB, but Samuel is already ahead of where he was in 2011.
 
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I like Terrence and I think he'll be a valuable contributor.

That being said, it's obviously absurd to say he's already better at getting to the bucket and converting than Napier or Boatright. Samuel got minutes in the tournament because other teams were loading up on those other guys. He has not yet been asked to run an offense for 40 - or even 10 - minutes, and he certainly wasn't the focus of any team's scouting report like those other guys. I'm optimistic about him but I think some people are going a bit overboard based on what he showed in the tournament. (But I don't think his jumper was "beyond ugly," I don't think anyone would confuse him with a natural jump shooter, but it looks like he's got something there to work with.)
 
Rocktheworld said:
LOL took 3 years for people to get Boatwright down, looks like it's gonna take another 3 to get Samuels down.
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It took almost 3 years for Ryan to get "Boatwright" down……if you like him that much spell his name right.

He's been a real nice player for a while, but his best basketball BY FAR came during the tourney…..it's like a switch went off and I hope it stays on, he was great! before then if you thought he was anything but perplexing at times and a bit inconsistent you were wrong!
 
I think a switch was definitely flipped. He said himself he found his role, excelled in it, and I can only hope/imagine KO will capitalize and build on it this season. A three PG lineup of Senior Boat, 21 year old Purvis and confident and experienced TSam might end up being deadlier than Bazz/Boat/TSam this season, if we can make up for the three point shooting we will miss with Bazz gone.
 
UcannUconn said:
But have we ever seen him hit a jump shot?
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Reminds me alot of an old NC PG we had named Taliek Brown. He couldn't shoot either (except that one time) but he could run an offense and play D. Most of all, he played hard.

Samuel's game has a similar feeling in my eyes. And with the weapons around him he won't need to shoot.
 
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Samuel could be our poor man's version of Victor Oladipo. Same everything except with the still developing J. I believe that if Sam continues to develop at his present rate, he could be a is round 2016 or 17 draftee. He has to try very hard at games and practice to earn huge game minutes. His teammates at his position are very good. He has to assert himself.
 
Rocktheworld said:
I think a switch was definitely flipped. He said himself he found his role, excelled in it, and I can only hope/imagine KO will capitalize and build on it this season. A three PG lineup of Senior Boat, 21 year old Purvis and confident and experienced TSam might end up being deadlier than Bazz/Boat/TSam this season, if we can make up for the three point shooting we will miss with Bazz gone.
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Remains to be seen if Purvis can be effective at PG; it isn't a simple transition. Sam Jr. could emerge as an outstanding PG who can score. It is going to be interesting to see how KO pieces together the team next year. It is likely that we will have some surprises both positive and negative. Nolan and Brimah getting a little better, Omar getting his confidence back and Facey developing could end up being more important.
 
Rocktheworld said:
TSam won't have double hip surgery.
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Fair enough. For what it is worth, I am hopeful that Omar gets back to form this year. I think he just needed time. My heart goes out to him. It was a rough year. Still, at least publically, he kept his head up. I have a ton of respect for him.
 
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I'm going to judge Samuel based on how he played in the tourney against a Top 10 team when our star was on the bench for 12 minutes. Nevermind the way he just took it to 'em in the Final game. The guy is a player.
 
otp85 said:
Reminds me alot of an old NC PG we had named Taliek Brown. He couldn't shoot either (except that one time) but he could run an offense and play D. Most of all, he played hard.

Samuel's game has a similar feeling in my eyes. And with the weapons around him he won't need to shoot.
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The difference on offense is Samuel can finish and make his FTs.
 
Danzz said:
The difference on offense is Samuel can finish and make his FTs.
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That is very true. Taliek was a bit shaky at the line. But I think that comparison is a bit more fair then the Shabazz or Boat nonsense.
 
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I like Samuel. Alot. Thrilled he'll be here for 4 years and has the makings of a leader. He's unselfish and plays harder than most you'll find. But he's not an elite talent. No offense. Yes, he had his moments in the tournament but he was GREATLY aided by the defense's focus on Shabazz or Boat, or both. A weaker defender on him for the same reason. A lesser scouting report for the same reason. And fresher legs at all times because he wasn't logging 35-40 minutes a night.

He's going to do good things but let's reel in the hype a bit.
 
In 270 minutes he made zero three pointers.

He only attempted one.
 
Palatine said:
In 270 minutes he made zero three pointers.

He only attempted one.
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Does he need to make 3s to help us win games? He's a PG, how many assists? How many TOs? He's proven he can be effective. If anything I like that stat because he only took 1. Let's me know he understands his own game. You can teach a player to shoot. The fact that he is a good free throw shooter is evidence he's not hopeless. Leave it on him and the coaching staff. Imagine if he develops an outside shot. It's not unheard-of.
 
He is more Kevin Ollie and Talik Brown then any one else and not even close to Bazz even when Bazz was a freshman. I see alot of Ollie in him, loves to push the ball and run every chance he gets, attacks the rim, and plays hard defense, those were Ollie trademarks. Ollie and him both even dribbled high. He needs to work on his handle against pressure and develop at least a short jumper.
 
Candyman34 said:
He is more Kevin Ollie and Talik Brown then any one else and not even close to Bazz even when Bazz was a freshman. I see alot of Ollie in him, loves to push the ball and run every chance he gets, attacks the rim, and plays hard defense, those were Ollie trademarks. Ollie and him both even dribbled high. He needs to work on his handle against pressure and develop at least a short jumper.
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I'll take Kevin Ollie again.
 
I like the Tate George comp the best. He's big and physical like George was, and he's a very good on-ball defender.
 
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