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2021 Recruiting: Samson Johnson to UConn

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calluke said:
So Hurley was able to get a top 5 recruiting class even though...

He hasn't made the tourney with us yet

Has not had a ranked team with us yet

We haven't played a game in the big East yet

Players are not even allowed to visit the campus

What the bleep is Hurley going to be able once all that happens?

SCARY!
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Please try to be an optimist.

Nothing wrong with projecting success based on highly regarded recruits, and hopefully, future on campus sports. How many other schools have or are allowed to have, recruits on campus now for recruiting?

Though he hasn't yet made the tourney, remember he might have made at least the building block NIT, had last season continued.

Would you have deprecated Jim Calhoun's recruiting improvements in his earlier years?

We will have to see how things wash out. Would you have preferred 2 star recruits to test out hypothetically Hurley's coaching skills in this upcoming season if it does occur?

Everybody is sour grapes about Covid 19. I would have loved to go back to the beach club I had belonged to since I was a kid. I did not think it worth the risk in a potentially highly populated environment especially since I am in a high risk age group.

Enough things to be bitter about. Coach has worked hard in recruiting and in selling himself and the program.

That is all he can do.

We can try to realistically cope with what we feel comfortable doing or not doing.

No lumps of coal just yet, please.
 
Improviser said:
Please try to be an optimist.

Nothing wrong with projecting success based on highly regarded recruits, and hopefully, future on campus sports. How many other schools have or are allowed to have, recruits on campus now for recruiting?

Though he hasn't yet made the tourney, remember he might have made at least the building block NIT, had last season continued.

Would you have deprecated Jim Calhoun's recruiting improvements in his earlier years?

We will have to see how things wash out. Would you have preferred 2 star recruits to test out hypothetically Hurley's coaching skills in this upcoming season if it does occur?

Everybody is sour grapes about Covid 19. I would have loved to go back to the beach club I had belonged to since I was a kid. I did not think it worth the risk in a potentially highly populated environment especially since I am in a high risk age group.

Enough things to be bitter about. Coach has worked hard in recruiting and in selling himself and the program.

That is all he can do.

We can try to realistically cope with what we feel comfortable doing or not doing.

No lumps of coal just yet, please.
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I think you misinterpreted his post by about 180 degrees.
 
Improviser said:
Please try to be an optimist.

Nothing wrong with projecting success based on highly regarded recruits, and hopefully, future on campus sports. How many other schools have or are allowed to have, recruits on campus now for recruiting?

Though he hasn't yet made the tourney, remember he might have made at least the building block NIT, had last season continued.

Would you have deprecated Jim Calhoun's recruiting improvements in his earlier years?

We will have to see how things wash out. Would you have preferred 2 star recruits to test out hypothetically Hurley's coaching skills in this upcoming season if it does occur?

Everybody is sour grapes about Covid 19. I would have loved to go back to the beach club I had belonged to since I was a kid. I did not think it worth the risk in a potentially highly populated environment especially since I am in a high risk age group.

Enough things to be bitter about. Coach has worked hard in recruiting and in selling himself and the program.

That is all he can do.

We can try to realistically cope with what we feel comfortable doing or not doing.

No lumps of coal just yet, please.
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I’m 99.99999% sure he meant this as optimism. Basically, Dan Hurley has accomplished all these things despite the fact that he can’t pitch making the tourney at UConn, etc.
 
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calluke said:
I wonder if Calhoun would ever come back...

:D:D
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Interesting question - I don’t believe Jim was ever an assistant coach ? Correct me if I am wrong. I just don’t see it.
 
Improviser said:
Please try to be an optimist.

Nothing wrong with projecting success based on highly regarded recruits, and hopefully, future on campus sports. How many other schools have or are allowed to have, recruits on campus now for recruiting?

Though he hasn't yet made the tourney, remember he might have made at least the building block NIT, had last season continued.

Would you have deprecated Jim Calhoun's recruiting improvements in his earlier years?

We will have to see how things wash out. Would you have preferred 2 star recruits to test out hypothetically Hurley's coaching skills in this upcoming season if it does occur?

Everybody is sour grapes about Covid 19. I would have loved to go back to the beach club I had belonged to since I was a kid. I did not think it worth the risk in a potentially highly populated environment especially since I am in a high risk age group.

Enough things to be bitter about. Coach has worked hard in recruiting and in selling himself and the program.

That is all he can do.

We can try to realistically cope with what we feel comfortable doing or not doing.

No lumps of coal just yet, please.
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Re-read his post, because none of what you just said is accurate about what he said
 
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UCTitleTown said:
What's the highest ranked recruiting class we've ever had?
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2004 class had to be top ten with Rudy Gay & AJ Price, it was small but with 2 top 20 players, it had to be high ranked. I think Antonio Kellogg was also a top 100 kid.

Also, the 2006 Jerome Dyson, Stanley Robinson, Curtis Kelly, Doug Wiggins, Hasheem Thabeet class had to be high ranked.
 
This is a great class but if we stay where we are we won't be #4 when all the 5 stars are committed
 
navery12 said:
As far back as 247 goes it was 2006 at #4, 2003 at #6, then 2008 at #7
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Then you have to factor in guys like Drummond and Caron who had absurd rankings because Drummond enrolled early and Caron was a 5th year. Drummond was the #2 recruit after Anthony Davis and Caron was like #5. I remember Donyell's class being #2 in the nation.
 
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calluke said:
So Hurley was able to get a top 5 recruiting class even though...

He hasn't made the tourney with us yet

Has not had a ranked team with us yet

We haven't played a game in the big East yet

Players are not even allowed to visit the campus

What the bleep is Hurley going to be able once all that happens?

SCARY!
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Chief00 said:
I think I know what you are trying to say about the results. But, there was a ton of long term grind behind each one of these commitments. It may seem easy, however the coaches have been working each of these guys for quite awhile.
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Really? Never would have guessed that.
 
superjohn said:
Then you have to factor in guys like Drummond and Caron who had absurd rankings because Drummond enrolled early and Caron was a 5th year. Drummond was the #2 recruit after Anthony Davis and Caron was like #5. I remember Donyell's class being #2 in the nation.
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Caron was before 247 so couldn't check on that but added Drummond to the 2011 class and they ended up at #11
 
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MDHuskFan said:
I’m 99.99999% sure he meant this as optimism. Basically, Dan Hurley has accomplished all these things despite the fact that he can’t pitch making the tourney at UConn, etc.
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I reread it and did notice the "even though" in the first sentence so that can be interpreted as giving coach credit in spite of obstacles and in spite of not yet achieving the accomplishments of not yet qualifying for the tournament.

But, I do think last year can stand as a recruiting pitch not only for the upward trajectory of the program, but also, because it did show how players were developed like Bouknight and Whaley , and the end of the year , meteoric rise of Vital. Also, Hurley's astute use of Gilbert in the latter part of the year as a facilitator rather than a go to scorer, to minimize his unfruitful drives to the basket and to utilize his best skill sets.

I guess SCARY was used to describe the anticipated results Hurley could achieve with a few more years of winning.

So that's it. I don't mind going over something again and I appreciate the comments.
 
navery12 said:
Caron was before 247 so couldn't check on that but added Drummond to the 2011 class and they ended up at #11
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For some reason after the Drummond reclass they dropped him way down in the rankings.
 
Chief00 said:
And the ultimate source of this water that creates these pressures is rain.
In recruiting you need some catchy or motivational sayings to rally the troops and have fun. Chief is a very analytical dude but at some point we need to keep high level given our purpose.
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OMG
 
Mooch82 said:
It’s ranked 4th now but will probably drop back to the 8-10 range I would guess.
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247 gives a lot more weight to bigger classes- a class score of 60.99 would have ranked:

18th in 2020 (we we 23rd w/ 3 high school commits)
20th in 2019 (we were 18th w/ 4 high school commits)
22nd in 2018
16th in 2017

i think quality is more important than quantity though. just based on the numbers (not taking how good bouk turned out to be into account) and assuming we add a grad transfer or transfer this year (which won't impact our class ranking) which class would you rather have? i'll take 2021.

#49 Hawkins
#54 Diggins
#66 Bouknight
#88 Johnson
#92 Akok
#105 Gaffney
#161 Springs

2019 isn't a perfect example with akok's ranking drop but it's just to illustrate a point.
 
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Samson Johnson vs New Brunswick

13 PTS
2 REB
AST (1 potential/0 foul)

2 TO
1 STL
2 BLK

5/5 2FG
1/3 3FG
0/1 FT
  • Very comfortable guarding the perimeter at 6’10-6’11--that will be a tremendous asset for the team.
  • Patrick school was way, way, way better than NB, so there wasn’t a lot to see. But it did allow Samson to be more aggressive offensively which was good to see.
  • Sanogo is an absolute vacuum on the boards, but a terrible, terrible shooter. I have to think he’ll be a traditional center for us.
  • Didn’t play the entire second half ****

The Patrick School vs New Brunswick - Live Basketball
  • Nice potential assist and offensive board
The Patrick School vs New Brunswick - Live Basketball
  • Corner 3.
The Patrick School vs New Brunswick - Live Basketball
  • Dunk
The Patrick School vs New Brunswick - Live Basketball
  • Easy block. I wouldn’t expect him to be a terrific weakside shotblock like Akok is, but very few players are. His length is still definitely disruptive.
The Patrick School vs New Brunswick - Live Basketball
  • NICE catch and flush. Wow
 
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