Ryan Dickens Article Critical of UConn Football

[EdgewoodNHV]

ESPN is the Clinton News Network of sports broadcasting. Connecticut doesn't need them that bad. I'm done with them.

Oh my god keep your dumb opinions in the Cesspool please. Plenty of liberals like myself find this whole thing ridiculous too. Not everything is about left/right, you should turn off the talk radio once in a while and try thinking with your brain.

 

[Drew]

Greeny outraged by Edsall pulling scholarship - ESPN Video

 

[sub legacy]

Oh my god keep your dumb opinions in the Cesspool please. Plenty of liberals like myself find this whole thing ridiculous too. Not everything is about left/right, you should turn off the talk radio once in a while and try thinking with your brain.

I only mentioned "liberalism" within the context that it's a perpetual mind state, particularly within this region, that is reinforced by mainstream networks and hyperbolic, agenda-driven narratives in order to appeal to certain audiences (which this story is being used for) — and frankly ESPN is no different. That's not particularly, untrue is it? Defensive much?

 

[sub legacy]

Greeny outraged by Edsall pulling scholarship - ESPN Video

At least he called out the entire system.

 

[Excalibur]

I only mentioned "liberalism" within the context that it's a perpetual mind state, particularly within this region, that is reinforced by mainstream networks and hyperbolic, agenda-driven narratives in order to appeal to certain audiences (which this story is being used for) — and frankly ESPN is no different. That's not particularly, untrue is it? Defensive much?

 

[Rewster]

I don't understand why UConn can't make a statement with out going into details on a specific recruit. Make a statement in general terms about how Diaco recruits have been handled.

If none of the recruits that have had their scholarships rescinded had been promised they would keep their offer then say it.

" The University of Connecticut has not rescinded on a promise of a scholarship to any Diaco offered players. We made it clear to particular players that our evaluation will continue as we fill out our staff............"

If Edsall did what has been reported then he deserves all the crap that comes with it.
If he didn't, stand up and say you got this wrong. This idea that you can't comment on this in a way that won't get you in trouble is bullshite

We are getting smoked by the media. Stand up and fight if you didn't do what they said.

 

[UConnSportsGuy]

Herbst has to be wondering if the Football program is eternally cursed.

Before Diaco ever coached a snap, UConn had to deal with the whole "Jesus in the huddle" ridiculousness.

Now, before Edsall even gets to meet with the team in Storrs, UConn is in the national news for this absolute crap.

Herbst may need to plan for a program exorcism in the 2017 athletic budget.

 

[huskymedic]

I don't understand why UConn can't make a statement with out going into details on a specific recruit. Make a statement in general terms about how Diaco recruits have been handled.

If none of the recruits that have had their scholarships rescinded had been promised they would keep their offer then say it.

" The University of Connecticut has not rescinded on a promise of a scholarship to any Diaco offered players. We made it clear to particular players that our evaluation will continue as we fill out our staff.."

If Edsall did what has been reported then he deserves all the crap that comes with it.
If he didn't, stand up and say you got this wrong. This idea that you can't comment on this in a way that won't get you in trouble is bullshite

We are getting smoked by the media. Stand up and fight if you didn't do what they said.
We are now the poster boy for everything that is wrong in college sports and meanwhile Max Cummins just flipped UConn the middle finger.

Closest your gonna get - Benedict on WTIC yesterday.

Daniel Connolly ‏@DanielVConnolly 6m6 minutes ago
Benedict on recent recruiting controversy: "I can’t speak about any one prospect, but I do believe the system can be improved."

Daniel Connolly ‏@DanielVConnolly 7m7 minutes ago
Benedict said issues like this could be avoided with an early signing period.

Ed Daigneault ‏@EdDaigneault 7m7 minutes ago
Benedict: "It's a two-sided issue and I think on both sides, university and student-athlete, we could do a better job."

 

[businesslawyer]

I don't understand why UConn can't make a statement with out going into details on a specific recruit. Make a statement in general terms about how Diaco recruits have been handled.

If none of the recruits that have had their scholarships rescinded had been promised they would keep their offer then say it.

" The University of Connecticut has not rescinded on a promise of a scholarship to any Diaco offered players. We made it clear to particular players that our evaluation will continue as we fill out our staff.."

If Edsall did what has been reported then he deserves all the crap that comes with it.
If he didn't, stand up and say you got this wrong. This idea that you can't comment on this in a way that won't get you in trouble is bullshite

We are getting smoked by the media. Stand up and fight if you didn't do what they said.
We are now the poster boy for everything that is wrong in college sports and meanwhile Max Cummins just flipped UConn the middle finger.

I couldn't disagree with this more. First, this story will have played out totally by tonight. If you start fighting back, you just extend it.

Secondly, your first sentence of what you want said is wrong. The University is rescinding a promise of a scholarship. Just one made by Diaco. But in a non athletics context, the University can't fail to pay a contractor that did work for a project favored by the former provost, and not the current one. You want to fight a war that isn't winnable, because from the outside the system does look like it treats athletes incredibly unfairly.

Third and finally, if you make that kind of general statement, what do you do when Colin Mcenroe or whatever other schmuck says "So are you calling the Fitton parents liars?" You are setting yourself up for further questions you won't be able to answer and are pretending that you can control the dialogue when you can't.

Sometimes in life, you have to take injustices, smile and move on. This is one of those times.

 

[UConnRock]

Tennessee did the same thing to CJ Lewis from Cheshire Academy. It was a kid from CT who got hosed by an SEC school. Tennessee offered, Lewis committed, then Tennessee had second thoughts and kept recruiting QBs. This wasn't a story because Lewis quickly committed to another P5 school. In some respects what Tennessee did was worse as the same coaches who made the offer and accepted the commit were the ones who pushed him out. The SEC also knows how to do this more proficiently. Right now Tennessee has 27 commits and continues to go after several players. There will be several other decommits prior to signing day.

Smoke Signals: With CJ Lewis decommitting, Tennessee officially has an opening at quarterback in 2017 class

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

God — Greenberg is another bleeding-heart pencilneck. What a predictable, soap-box overreaction while he simultaneously chokes on Alabama's c••k like the rest of ESPN. Like I wasn't already disgusted with that hypocritical network as it is...

The sentiment I'm getting it's okay when major programs do it.

Harbaugh gets maybe a finger wag, while Edsall and UConn get eviscerated nationally as if they're the first known school to do this. Pots calling the kettle black. Bastards...

In fairness to Greenberg, after he shredded Edsall he said something like "well, it's really more about the system that allows this to happen."

 

[SAMCRO]

$6m in Lincoln, NE should get him a decent piece of property. Good Lord.

and a huge walk in closet to fit all those pairs of skinny jeans

 

[huskymedic]

@Jimdish255

Why did Finebaum rip UConn, but not Michigan or Alabama?

 

[Sprague03]

According to Rivals, Michigan has 27 commits, they can only sign 25 correct? Looks like Michigan will be pulling some scholarships from recruits, I can't wait until this happens. It's inevitable

Tennessee has 27 recruits committed
Texas A&M has 26 recruits committed
Maryland has 28 recruits committed

 

[sub legacy]

In fairness to Greenberg, after he shredded Edsall he said something like "well, it's really more about the system that allows this to happen."

Yeah, I admittedly jumped the gun on Greenberg. The tweet alone looked like he hopped on the outrage bandwagon. The clip at least shows he called out the entire system. But there has been a lot of scathing coverage for UConn surrounding this incident.

 

[jostar1]

I only mentioned "liberalism" within the context that it's a perpetual mind state, particularly within this region, that is reinforced by mainstream networks and hyperbolic, agenda-driven narratives in order to appeal to certain audiences (which this story is being used for) — and frankly ESPN is no different. That's not particularly, untrue is it? Defensive much?

Take it to the Cesspool board. I don't want to read about someone's perception of "liberalism" here.

 

[Hamms30]

I really don't think we are going to hear anything from HCRE on this one. You can't polish a turd and this situation is a turd. It's a really unfortunate circumstance for the young man and I really don't think this is something HCRE was happy about doing or was looking forward to doing. It sounds like the new D-Coord probably said, this isn't going to work with this recruit and then the decision had to be made of "who is going to be the bad guy?" It's not like HCRE is going to throw his new DC under the bus so that he can come out looking like a golden boy. Part of being a HC or leader of a business means having to deal with things like these sometimes and I think HCRE knows it's better to take this one on the chin and look like the bad guy and get this train going in a different direction and move on than to try and divert blame to others and derail the sucker before it even gets going.

The article makes it sound like the kid got a call from RE and he said.. hey, you're not coming anymore, see ya kid. I'm sure the reality is it was just as uncomfortable for RE as it was for the recruit, but the call had to be made and hopefully the kid will realize while it sucks now, if he really has aspirations of playing college football, this call probably just saved him a couple years of heart ache and wasted time. It's like the quote in Moneyball.. Would you rather take one to the brain or three to the chest?

 

[Rewster]

I couldn't disagree with this more. First, this story will have played out totally by tonight. If you start fighting back, you just extend it.

Secondly, your first sentence of what you want said is wrong. The University is rescinding a promise of a scholarship. Just one made by Diaco. But in a non athletics context, the University can't fail to pay a contractor that did work for a project favored by the former provost, and not the current one. You want to fight a war that isn't winnable, because from the outside the system does look like it treats athletes incredibly unfairly.

Third and finally, if you make that kind of general statement, what do you do when Colin Mcenroe or whatever other schmuck says "So are you calling the Fitton parents liars?" You are setting yourself up for further questions you won't be able to answer and are pretending that you can control the dialogue when you can't.

Sometimes in life, you have to take injustices, smile and move on. This is one of those times.

I worded the rescinded scholarship comment wrong. Essentilly meant to say Edsall never promised the player that the Diaco offered scholarship is assured.

I feel that UConn should have defended themselves right off the bat which would not have extended the story in theory. IF the story has a short shelf life a general statement will not extend the story and it will give pause to the perception that has now surrounded the program.

If UConn did not make a promise to the kid and his parents are not being truthful then yes they should be called out. Perhaps UConn can't prove it perhaps they can. Do you recall Benedict saying there are 2 sides to every story when the kid dumped us for Temple.
Did you feel he should not have said that. It also suggested that family was not being truthful

 

[2Infinity]

@Jimdish255

Why did Finebaum rip UConn, but not Michigan or Alabama?

Here are two articles written by a Chicago Tribune Sportswriter about Harbaugh's actions last season regarding pulling the scholly to Erik Swenson. The second article deals with the reaction to his original article. Harbaugh, and Michigan's recruiting strategy, is what Finebaum said he didn't really have a problem with. Just a complete double-standard!

Ethics no obstacle to Michigan's Jim Harbaugh dumping verbal commits

9 more thoughts on the Jim Harbaugh recruiting issue

There are more articles which seem to back up the case that Harbaugh is over-recruiting by design and knows that some will not progress as expected or get injured and no longer merit a scholly. So he just throws them "overboard". And THIS is what Finebaum has no problem with.... compared to what HCRE allegedly did?!? Wow! It sounds like it's Finebaum who is morally bankrupt!

 

[JSM1970]

More UConn discussion on ESPN, maybe they should have let the kid come and then quietly pushed him out assuming he can't play at this level

I doubt they thought it'd become a national story obviously

I think Calapari did this @ UK and next year they have 5 top 25 kids.....double standards abound

 

[2Infinity]

Can't believe this case hasn't come up yet, or maybe I just missed it, it's one we were on the other side of....the case of Tim Boyle! He was offered by BCU and Steve Addazio. SA recruited him, committed to him, then pulled the offer, saying only that they were going to go in another direction. This wasn't someone else's offer, nor was there an injury, Addazio just wanted to go in another direction. Where was the outrage from Finebaum, Greenberg and ESPN?? I don't remember hearing much...if any reaction at all..not any!

 

[tower1]

I worded the rescinded scholarship comment wrong. Essentilly meant to say Edsall never promised the player that the Diaco offered scholarship is assured.

I feel that UConn should have defended themselves right off the bat which would not have extended the story in theory. IF the story has a short shelf life a general statement will not extend the story and it will give pause to the perception that has now surrounded the program.

If UConn did not make a promise to the kid and his parents are not being truthful then yes they should be called out. Perhaps UConn can't prove it perhaps they can. Do you recall Benedict saying there are 2 sides to every story when the kid dumped us for Temple.
Did you feel he should not have said that. It also suggested that family was not being truthful

This is definitely a huge black eye for Uconn. Especially if the kid was called on January 1st and confirmed his offer. The NCAA should take a look and change the signing periods. They should have an early signing period, which would help the smaller schools from loosing recruits to the top football schools at last moment. It would benefit the kids just as much. But crooked NCAA will not change it because the top football schools would not like it.

 

[huskymedic]

More UConn discussion on ESPN...

Much more balanced discussion w/ Golic Jr and Luginbill. Luginbill did a fair job explaining the situation coaches face, how they are @ disadvantage not being able to discuss what happened. Need to find CFB Live link of broadcast.

 

[huskymedic]

The NCAA should take a look and change the signing periods. They should have an early signing period, which would help the smaller schools from loosing recruits to the top football schools at last moment. It would benefit the kids just as much. But crooked NCAA will not change it because the top football schools would not like it.

Vote to change is in April and seems likely to pass by all reports.

DI Football Oversight Committee modifies recruiting package

>>An early signing period in college football is one step closer to a vote. The Division I Football Oversight Committee on Tuesday recommended modifications to its comprehensive recruiting package proposal at the NCAA Convention in Nashville, Tennessee, moving it closer to a final vote by the Division I Council. The Council could vote on it as early as April. In the latest package, the Football Oversight Committee maintained its support for a mid-December early signing date that would last for 72 hours and is also the first time junior college players can sign a National Letter of Intent.<<

 

[31GuardTrap]

Greeny outraged by Edsall pulling scholarship - ESPN Video

Does anyone really care what Greeny thinks?

 

[CTMike]

Does anyone really care what Greeny thinks?

Personally- no. It's just irritating that his misinformed opinion reaches so many.

 

[31GuardTrap]

Personally- no. It's just irritating that his misinformed opinion reaches so many.

Oh indeed my animated friend.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Can't believe this case hasn't come up yet, or maybe I just missed it, it's one we were on the other side of....the case of Tim Boyle! He was offered by BCU and Steve Addazio. SA recruited him, committed to him, then pulled the offer, saying only that they were going to go in another direction. This wasn't someone else's offer, nor was there an injury, Addazio just wanted to go in another direction. Where was the outrage from Finebaum, Greenberg and ESPN?? I don't remember hearing much...if any reaction at all..not any!

Boyle's parents and Marinan handled the situation the right way. Didn't go to the press like whiney little bitches.

 

[Waquoit]

You hire a snake like Edsall the result is entirely predictable when he does something snaky, you don't get the benefit of the doubt. I was hoping he he'd learned something and didn't make antagonizing the recruiting base Job 1 this time. Alas.

 

[MattMang23]

Greeny outraged by Edsall pulling scholarship - ESPN Video

The worst part of this Mike Greenberg clip is that he acknowledges, after ripping Edsall apart, that this happens "at every school." Then why was this never an issue before? Then why is this a segment on your show today? Why wasn't it a worthy topic of discussion in other instances?