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btstimpy said:
If UConn were to join the ACC, you'd have 7 of the names on that top line plus Louisville together. You'd only be missing WV, Rutgers, and Penn State. The 5 Catholics have a different agenda not being FBS football playing schools, so those don't really fit anyway.

Then you would add further representation in Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia along with Notre Dame. That would be a hell of an east coast oriented conference. What a novel idea. Someone ought to consider that.
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What that original poster's referring to, long lamented in Big East circles, is the Great Eastern Conference that Joe Paterno tried throughout the 80's to put together. At that time, the original Big East football schools (not Cincy or L'ville), Miami, Penn St, and FSU were all Independents, and Maryland supposedly was ready to jump. Also, that was before a ton of transplants started moving into the Carolinas and GA. Florida was really a culturally northeastern place. So, no bstimpy, it's a different concept than today's ACC. Would've been awesome had that happened.
 
adbern7 said:
What that original poster's referring to, long lamented in Big East circles, is the Great Eastern Conference that Joe Paterno tried throughout the 80's to put together. At that time, the original Big East football schools (not Cincy or L'ville), Miami, Penn St, and FSU were all Independents, and Maryland supposedly was ready to jump. Also, that was before a ton of transplants started moving into the Carolinas and GA. Florida was really a culturally northeastern place. So, no bstimpy, it's a different concept than today's ACC. Would've been awesome had that happened.
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I know what the OP was saying. I'm just suggesting that the current ACC is only a few pieces from that Paterno Eastern Conference (Penn State, UConn and WVU) along with additional southern atlantic presence in the hotbed recruiting areas for high school football talent and Notre Dame. I don't remember Florida schools as part of Joe Paterno's vision, but perhaps they were. Maryland leaving the ACC and being replaced by Louisville alters it some, but not much.
 
btstimpy said:
I know what the OP was saying. I'm just suggesting that the current ACC is only a few pieces from that Paterno Eastern Conference (Penn State, UConn and WVU) along with additional southern atlantic presence in the hotbed recruiting areas for high school football talent and Notre Dame. I don't remember Florida schools as part of Joe Paterno's vision, but perhaps they were. Maryland leaving the ACC and being replaced by Louisville alters it some, but not much.
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That Paterno Eastern Conference couldn't exist today. It's a bygone era when Penn State was a top 3 team, Doug Flutie was at BC, Syracuse was a top 10 program, Miami was winning titles, Eastern football meant something. Nobody was interested in a "south atlantic" presence. Doesn't matter anymore, just reminiscing about what could've been back then.
 
adbern7 said:
That Paterno Eastern Conference couldn't exist today. It's a bygone era when Penn State was a top 3 team, Doug Flutie was at BC, Syracuse was a top 10 program, Miami was winning titles, Eastern football meant something. Nobody was interested in a "south atlantic" presence. Doesn't matter anymore, just reminiscing about what could've been back then.
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I'm with you now. You want the Paterno Eastern Conference with Paterno here to lead it. Can't help you there.
 
btstimpy said:
I'm with you now. You want the Paterno Eastern Conference with Paterno here to lead it. Can't help you there.
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yup. i realize it's the same thing as pining for Yale, Notre Dame, Army, and Harvard to join together to dominate CFB. a black and white movie. or, in the case of 80's eastern football, analog TV with the old Atari-style scoreboard graphics.
 
Well, it's quite clear that Rutgers was not added to the B1G for their stellar basketball program and attendance. For 2013, current average attendance is 3,700, which is a 45% drop from 2004/5 and is less than several Catholic HS football games I have been to in Jersey.

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/2...ball__Marketing_madness_in_N_J_.html?page=all

Assuming that there is not a blizzard next week, there will be at least 4 at the UConn game at the RAC as I plan to go with a neighbor and fellow rec coach, who is a Rutgers alumni, along with our two oldest sons to the game.

Seton Hall is not looking good either. It a couple more years, they may need to give-up on the Rock (+18K for basketball, current attendance 6K) and go back to Walsh Gym (2,600 for basketball). Sad actually as I have caught 3 or 4 UConn games at the Rock and enjoyed the games there.
 
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buggsy said:
And I just did a search on "UCONN too smalltime for the real conferences" and got 1.35 million results in 1 second.

https://www.google.com/#q=UCONN too smalltime for the real conferences

But we already knew that.
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of course here are the results:
Bioscience Connecticut UConn Health Center News Conference
Bob Diaco Press Conference Quotes - UConn Huskies
Motivated UConn eager to compete behind Ollie's charge - USA Today
A Great First Impression - The UConn Blog

Among others but nothing that supports your premise.
#ironic
 
Rutgers will need to overcome financial hurdles to compete with top Big Ten schools
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...dles_to_compete_with_top_big_ten_schools.html

This is the final installment in a series focusing on various aspects of Rutgers' transition to the Big Ten based on interviews with these former coaches. The first entry focused on what the coaches' believe is Rutgers' primary advantage as it enters its new conference. The second entry focused on the physical challenges that Rutgers will encounter in its first season of Big Ten play. The third entry focused on the appeal of Rutgers – and the New York media market – to the Big Ten.
 
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