Rule question involving an ex-Husky

[TCC Kid]

The ref needed to walk away. While the stare down and close personal space violation was probably uncalled for it was not illegal & the push was ridiculously minor. This was a true case of "no harm, no foul."

Un-sportsman like conduct is a foul. If at games end you continue pushing, yaking it up (negatively), I'd call it. College or HS need to learn it is just a game and it not a RIGHT to play in these contests. It is something fans should learn competiton is great and you should play all out, like Nika. When the horn blows the competition ends.

 

[AgStatesman]

In games that are close, hotly contested, or contentious, the refs have a feel for wanting to be out of there asap. You will see them tuck their head towards the floor and book it off the court. They become Sgt. Schultz from Hogan's Heroes (I see nothing). This game appeared to be winding down like normal so it's possible the refs guard was down. They called what they called, it affected nothing, and everyone moves on. There is no need for a rules change or to even think twice about this incident. How about maintaining a level of decorum where players are penalized for boorish, unsportsmanlike behavior? This has nothing to do with reffing. It has to do with Mir acting the dope and the player who retaliated getting punished. That scenario is a trope as old as time.

 

[stamfordhusky]

Obviously...not everyone knows. And just because it's a rule... would certainly like to know the point of it. I bet there are plenty of players and gambling folks that never heard of this.

So the game starts with a clock, but doesn't end when the clock goes to zero? It ends when the ref is out of sight of the court? And you think everyone closely involved understands the "logic" or even the intent here? How would the scorekeeper enter free throws taken "pregame" or even "post game"? There are only 4 quarters in the game...regardless of the clock time.

Look at the Syracuse box score. Those two FT's were listed as occurring at 0:00 and were part of the fourth quarter. Maybe I assume too much about fan's knowledge of basketball. I've known this since HS and seen it happen in person.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

Look at the Syracuse box score. Those two FT's were listed as occurring at 0:00 and were part of the fourth quarter. Maybe I assume too much about fan's knowledge of basketball. I've known this since HS and seen it happen in person.

I don't anyone who knows everything about anything. I mean if seasoned analysts, some who are ex players) can consult Steve Javie regarding the rules of basketball, then there's no shame in my game trying to better understand.

And I would expect the freethrows to be recorded in the 4th quarter as I would expect freethrows taken in the first quarter when the clock reads 10:00 to be recorded as part of the first quarter. Which is why I said "on the clock and during the game". If scoring at 0:00 is part of the game, then certainly 10:00 is part of quarter 1.

I certainly thank you for your wisdom in clarifying the validity of the call, but beyond correcting a scoring error I don't get the intent. The call aside, the violation occurred beyond regulation and then the results of that violation (extra points) is recorded as part of the scoring record. Bizarre logic and rule IMO.

 

[sun]

I certainly thank you for your wisdom in clarifying the validity of the call, but beyond correcting a scoring error I don't get the intent. The call aside, the violation occurred beyond regulation and then the results of that violation (extra points) is recorded as part of the scoring record. Bizarre logic and rule IMO.

It appears that the purpose of technical fouls is because they are important tools for enforcing behavior, as well as administrative & procedural rules that are important to game management.
Being responsible for game management is the very reason why referees are given their authority to control the outcome of the game.

Some of the administrative & procedural rules begin to be enforced before the game actually starts such as when a coach gives the information about their starting line up and uniform numbers which can result in a technical if incorrect or aren't legally met.
If you can understand that simple rule needs to be enforced with a technical then you can understand why there can be technicals before the game even starts that can affect the score.

I'm not going to hunt for a perfect article that can explain it to you, but the one below starts off with a reasonably good explanation that I mentioned above.

Technical Fouls: The Most Misunderstood Rule In Basketball? | MomsTeam

Technical fouls are a necessary, but perhaps the most misunderstood part of the game of basketball and are an important part of an official's arsenal in effectively managing the game, coaches and players.

www.momsteam.com

Humans make rules for sports that have evolved over time, and they have become accepted as being necessary and good for the game.
If people don't like the current rules, they are free to try to change them, but it can become a political battle if they think that they know more than the governing bodies such as the NCAA or the professional sports leagues.
There's are NCAA rules committee that are constantly examining the rules and are willing to accept suggestions.
But changes are usually incremental and not radical or extreme.
It takes a lot of deliberation and a majority of votes to change rules.
And the rules committee is largely made of NCAA coaches from around the country.
So a person would need to convince them about how they should be doing a better job of reviewing the rules.