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JMick said:
Solo didn't deserve the backlash it got. It was a perfectly good star wars film
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I don't know about "perfectly good", but it certainly wasn't the worst film ever as some made it out to be. It was ok, and when my kids and I watched it on Netflix we certainly never considered turning it off, etc. The thing is that with Star Wars or these Marvel movies, we want more than ok. We want something really cool that we want to see again or spend some time talking about after. This was like, "ok, not too bad, let's go outside and shoot some hoops".

This next Star Wars film needs to rekindle that spark somehow, and Marvel will need to somehow figure out how to set up the next ten years of their films after Endgame. I am curious to see how both franchises manage it.
 
traitor71 said:
I don't know about "perfectly good", but it certainly wasn't the worst film ever as some made it out to be. It was ok, and when my kids and I watched it on Netflix we certainly never considered turning it off, etc. The thing is that with Star Wars or these Marvel movies, we want more than ok. We want something really cool that we want to see again or spend some time talking about after. This was like, "ok, not too bad, let's go outside and shoot some hoops".

This next Star Wars film needs to rekindle that spark somehow, and Marvel will need to somehow figure out how to set up the next ten years of their films after Endgame. I am curious to see how both franchises manage it.
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Yeah I probably could have phrased it differently. It was a fine movie and if you wanted to watch all of the Star Wars movies, it wouldn't be worth skipping. It was better than all of the prequels.

I hope Endgame lives up to the hype. I'll worry about everything else after.
 
JMick said:
Yeah I probably could have phrased it differently. It was a fine movie and if you wanted to watch all of the Star Wars movies, it wouldn't be worth skipping. It was better than all of the prequels.

I hope Endgame lives up to the hype. I'll worry about everything else after.
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Endgame really needs to be a proper end to the Stark/Rogers Avengers era. If it ends up being some ridiculously overpowered Captain Marvel flying in to save the day, then it will really taint the story. I also think the next ten years of Marvel films aren't going to be received as well as the first ten because that character just isn't going to be able to carry the franchise like those guys have. In my opinion Disney/Marvel is taking a big risk by planning to have her lead the charge from here on out. This movie will have a big first weekend, probably a good second one too as it has zero competition to contend with. Then it will fall back some and we will see how it ends up, and we will see what the audience scores say about it. Time will ultimately tell how it works out from there, but I am skeptical.
 
JMick said:
Solo didn't deserve the backlash it got. It was a perfectly good star wars film
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I'm sure the 10th Episode of the First Season of Law and Order: Special Timbuktu Detail was strong as well. At some point, after you destroy the brand, the backlash isn't just about the next episode.
 
traitor71 said:
Endgame really needs to be a proper end to the Stark/Rogers Avengers era. If it ends up being some ridiculously overpowered Captain Marvel flying in to save the day, then it will really taint the story. I also think the next ten years of Marvel films aren't going to be received as well as the first ten because that character just isn't going to be able to carry the franchise like those guys have. In my opinion Disney/Marvel is taking a big risk by planning to have her lead the charge from here on out. This movie will have a big first weekend, probably a good second one too as it has zero competition to contend with. Then it will fall back some and we will see how it ends up, and we will see what the audience scores say about it. Time will ultimately tell how it works out from there, but I am skeptical.
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Yeah I agree. Tony Stark/Robert Downey is a pretty awesome frontman. That will be tough to follow.
 
ZooCougar said:
Yeah I agree. Tony Stark/Robert Downey is a pretty awesome frontman. That will be tough to follow.
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Yeah, and I also think the Iron man/Captain America dynamic is just going to be impossible to top. Two guys who both want the same things, but just have different ideas on how to get there. At the end of the day they always come together and make it work and I think that has been a huge part of this ten year run of the MCU. I just don't see who the hell they can turn to to come up with anything close to that. Maybe they will be able to use the X men and Fantastic Four properties to juice things up, but we have to see. I am extremely skeptical that they can make the FF work at any rate.
 
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traitor71 said:
Yeah, and I also think the Iron man/Captain America dynamic is just going to be impossible to top. Two guys who both want the same things, but just have different ideas on how to get there. At the end of the day they always come together and make it work and I think that has been a huge part of this ten year run of the MCU. I just don't see who the hell they can turn to to come up with anything close to that. Maybe they will be able to use the X men and Fantastic Four properties to juice things up, but we have to see. I am extremely skeptical that they can make the FF work at any rate.
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I keep forgetting about Dr. Strange. He could pull it off. Surprisingly that worked for me. I also hope they keep Thor around, those movies are funny as well.
 
ZooCougar said:
I keep forgetting about Dr. Strange. He could pull it off. Surprisingly that worked for me. I also hope they keep Thor around, those movies are funny as well.
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I have this feeling that Iron man/Captain America/Thor are not going away forever (if Thor even goes away at all). I feel like those guys may move on, but their characters may still be out there in the background, maybe doing other things. I could easily see a scenario where Stark and Rogers come together to deal with this whole accords thing by actually running it from the background. In Civil War, Cap was ready to sign off on it until he and Stark got into an argument. I could see War machine taking over the Iron man role, Winter Soldier picking up the shield, etc as part of a new Avengers team moving forward.

I can see those guys not wanting to do one movie after another anymore, but making appearances here and there? I could see that, and I hope that is how Marvel handles it as opposed to killing characters and eventually having to invent some way to resurrect them.
 
traitor71 said:
I have this feeling that Iron man/Captain America/Thor are not going away forever (if Thor even goes away at all). I feel like those guys may move on, but their characters may still be out there in the background, maybe doing other things. I could easily see a scenario where Stark and Rogers come together to deal with this whole accords thing by actually running it from the background. In Civil War, Cap was ready to sign off on it until he and Stark got into an argument. I could see War machine taking over the Iron man role, Winter Soldier picking up the shield, etc as part of a new Avengers team moving forward.

I can see those guys not wanting to do one movie after another anymore, but making appearances here and there? I could see that, and I hope that is how Marvel handles it as opposed to killing characters and eventually having to invent some way to resurrect them.
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Disney doesn't even both with the soap opera reincarnation tales. It just restarts a character from the beginning with a new actor. Like Spiderman or the Hulk. How many versions into them are they? I honestly don't know because they rebooted so quickly for both I just stopped watching.
 
Spartacus said:
Disney doesn't even both with the soap opera reincarnation tales. It just restarts a character from the beginning with a new actor. Like Spiderman or the Hulk. How many versions into them are they? I honestly don't know because they rebooted so quickly for both I just stopped watching.
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Spiderman is a little more convoluted because of the Sony thing. I always had the feeling that the Edward Norton issue was a money thing, but who knows. I do think they have both characters cast pretty well now.
 
ZooCougar said:
I keep forgetting about Dr. Strange. He could pull it off. Surprisingly that worked for me. I also hope they keep Thor around, those movies are funny as well.
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Dr. Strange is the only individual film in the current Marvel Universe I haven't seen. For some reason, I never rent it when I am flipping through accounts. Sounds like you recommend it?
 
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traitor71 said:
Spiderman is a little more convoluted because of the Sony thing. I always had the feeling that the Edward Norton issue was a money thing, but who knows. I do think they have both characters cast pretty well now.
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I think technically the Ed Norton movie is not part of the MCU. They just pretended that Ed Norton and Mark Ruffalo are the same person.
 
tzznandrew said:
I think technically the Ed Norton movie is not part of the MCU. They just pretended that Ed Norton and Mark Ruffalo are the same person.
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Actually it is, but I think they've tried to pretend like it doesn't exist since it's release. That was the biggest misfire of the entire MCU.

The prior Hulk movie starting Eric Bana is definitely not MCU. It was a better movie though, despite getting lost at times w/ mumbo jumbo and close ups of lizards?
 
nwhoopfan said:
Actually it is, but I think they've tried to pretend like it doesn't exist since it's release. That was the biggest misfire of the entire MCU.

The prior Hulk movie starting Eric Bana is definitely not MCU. It was a better movie though, despite getting lost at times w/ mumbo jumbo and close ups of lizards?
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I typed the exact opposite thing I meant. Eric Bana's isn't part of it, though, right?
 
Mano said:
Much ado...?

Captain Marvel (2019)

83%
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That's a bad sign in my opinion. This movie probably should be over 90% with the critics. I have this feeling that it's going to sit between 60-70% with audiences with a big drop off between its first and second week. We will see how it plays out and I would love to know if the rumors of two edits existing for Endgame are true. We probably never will know that, but it seems plausible.
 
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traitor71 said:
That's a bad sign in my opinion. This movie probably should be over 90% with the critics. I have this feeling that it's going to sit between 60-70% with audiences with a big drop off between its first and second week. We will see how it plays out and I would love to know if the rumors of two edits existing for Endgame are true. We probably never will know that, but it seems plausible.
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Captain Marvel Movie Review: Dull and Directionless | National Review
 
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I'm interested to see the movie. Other than the first Iron Man when it came out, I never really got into the MCU until about 6 months ago, when my wife had interest in watching all the movies and I joined her. Now I'm really intrigued to see how things wrap up in Endgame (although I'm definitely afraid Captain Marvel is just going to use time travel or some crap like that).

As for the controversy about the movie, Brie Larson definitely doesn't do it for me. She never really had much charisma in anything I've seen her in, so I'm not really looking forward to her performance. As for all the other crap, any negativity I've seen around the movie is always centered around the fact that she's a woman and people complaining for thinly veiled political reason (I mean, I could've guessed what the National Review's...well, review...would look like). There are perfectly valid reasons why the movie might not be great; Captain Marvel being overpowered, do they lean too heavy on making political statements, are they going to come up with some bogus, not well earned plot device to reverse the end of Infinity War...that kind of stuff. But I'm willing to give the movie a shot. The same people I saw complaining about Captain Marvel a few months ago were fanboys that complained about a female Dr. Who, and honestly I saw a few episodes of hers and thought the quality of the show was about the same as previous episodes. So I'm not convinced that all of the bitching and moaning is necessarily justified. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 
Rotten Tomatoes scores for Captain Marvel: critics 81% audience 36%! Holy crap! Is that the biggest discrepancy between critics and fans ever? Are they gonna blame this on trolls? Wow.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I don't watch shows or movies about vampires, zombies or superheroes.
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My absolute favorite variety of comment on virtually any site, blog, etc.

Only surpassed by "We don't even OWN a TV"
 
JMick said:
Solo didn't deserve the backlash it got. It was a perfectly good star wars film
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Thing is, Solo didn't get the backlash over Solo. It was on the receiving end of the backlash over Last Jedi. And deservedly so. The only thing Marvel has going for it is the movie directly following this likely failure is Endgame, and it won't suffer any kind of backlash.
 
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