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Mano said:
Much ado...?

Captain Marvel (2019)

83%
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What ? You're actually quoting the "critic score". That isn't to be believed at this point. Audience score currently sits at 35%. I'd have to go read a handful to get a sense which direction is spamming the score.

UPDATE: The 35% could be a high water mark. Four and 5 star reviews are all about countering "man babies" voting it down. Not sure even 35% of the reviews are actually about how good the movie is, rather, how much they love Brie Larson and hate men.

Great job, Disney.
 
Deadrody said:
What ? You're actually quoting the "critic score". That isn't to be believed at this point. Audience score currently sits at 35%. I'd have to go read a handful to get a sense which direction is spamming the score.

UPDATE: The 35% could be a high water mark. Four and 5 star reviews are all about countering "man babies" voting it down. Not sure even 35% of the reviews are actually about how good the movie is, rather, how much they love Brie Larson and hate men.

Great job, Disney.
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That’s usually a starting point for me. Anything 80% and above is usually a good tell it’s at least not a crap movie. Then I actually go read a review or two from reviewers I trust. I would absolutely never put my faith in aggregate scores on a site like RT though. Maybe IMDB, but that usually takes longer before you can trust it. The trolls are always the first to descend. You know, like exactly what the whole point of this thread is.
 
Deadrody said:
What ? You're actually quoting the "critic score". That isn't to be believed at this point. Audience score currently sits at 35%. I'd have to go read a handful to get a sense which direction is spamming the score.

UPDATE: The 35% could be a high water mark. Four and 5 star reviews are all about countering "man babies" voting it down. Not sure even 35% of the reviews are actually about how good the movie is, rather, how much they love Brie Larson and hate men.

Great job, Disney.
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The audience score is getting brigaded on both ends. Best to look at the critics when things like this happen
 
Mano said:
That’s usually a starting point for me. Anything 80% and above is usually a good tell it’s at least not a crap movie. Then I actually go read a review or two from reviewers I trust. I would absolutely never put my faith in aggregate scores on a site like RT though. Maybe IMDB, but that usually takes longer before you can trust it. The trolls are always the first to descend. You know, like exactly what the whole point of this thread is.
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I actually go by the first page of most helpful reviews at IMDB. You can actually find movies where the reviews are only "meh", but people have upvoted good reviews. Not always accurate, but a good way to find hidden gems. I would make another pitch for the Heirloom app at RT, but the new design broke the add on.

Critic reviews have become more and more political. Obviously, that doesn't affect every movie, but one like this ? Absolutely. I don't trust critics on this one in the least. Same with Black Panther. It was "good", but it was not nearly as good as critics would have you believe.
 
JMick said:
The audience score is getting brigaded on both ends. Best to look at the critics when things like this happen
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Nope. Critics are no more trustworthy than the average internet troll, frankly.

And since it's getting trolled from both side, maybe take the word of the more numerous trolls.
 
Found this “review” posted by numerous “people”. Took like 15 seconds of searching.

“

I'll make it very simple and clear: Captain Marvel is really worth a watch. It's just entertaining and visually impressive, exactly what it was meant to be. Just keep this in mind that it's an origin story so don't go looking for an overstuffed complex story. It's just a fun action movie that introduces us to a new superhero Captain Marvel, played brilliantly by Brie Larson. I became an instant fan watching her in this action heroine avatar, something she manages to pull off with ease. Watch her in the action sequences and there's no way you can't be impressed. Viewers were literally cheering for some of the most heroic moments in the film. Samuel L Jackson as Nick Fury is as awesome as always, it's just that his character feels even better and refined than what we've seen. Jude Law is also quite good, and so are Ben Mendelsohn and Lashana Lynch. But the one character that ultimately steals the show is Goose, the cat. Some of the sequences involving her are so hilarious that it was really difficult to stop laughing. Visual effects are excellent, and the IMAX 3D viewing just elevated them. And since it's most importantly an action movie, every single action sequence it delivers is impressive, especially the train sequence. I would call it one of the major highlights of the movie. Cinematography in certain portions is really impressive. Humor, like any other MCU movie, is top notch and really manages to make you laugh. Captain Marvel has a simple-looking origin story presented and executed in a terrific manner. The directors have done a great job with the characterization of Captain Marvel, and that is what makes everything in the film seem so good. The pace is brisk, gore is minimal to no, and there's nothing unsuitable for kids. I'd definitely recommend watching Captain Marvel to anyone who likes superheroes or is simply a fan of action movies. You'll love it if you want to be entertained. It also does answer some much-asked questions, and that should be the reason enough for you to stay instead of just walking away. Can't wait to watch Avengers: Endgame now!”
 
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Deadrody said:
Nope. Critics are no more trustworthy than the average internet troll, frankly.

And since it's getting trolled from both side, maybe take the word of the more numerous trolls.
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Or, ya know, we could all watch for ourselves trying not to let all those numerous others color our view.
 
Wait a minute. Now you can post reviews again on Netflix. When did that happen?
 
Mano said:
If it were some Sci-fi swashbuckler it’d be fine. But they shoehorned it into the SW universe and it didn’t really jive in that sense. I thought it was a fun watch still tho.
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Same. I enjoyed it. Not immensely, but worth a watch. It didn't really feel part of Star Wars other than having costumes/world/vehicles in that vein.

The important thing is to go in with zero expectations. Actually, thinking about it now, I expected it to stink, and it didn't.

Chewy was great in it. Love that dude.
 
Deadrody said:
Critic reviews have become more and more political. Obviously, that doesn't affect every movie, but one like this ? Absolutely. I don't trust critics on this one in the least. Same with Black Panther. It was "good", but it was not nearly as good as critics would have you believe.
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Yep. And Wonder Woman kinda sucked. Had absolutely nothing to do with the character either. Just a bad movie. But Fem Power I guess?

Funny part is, if they make a great movie, minority actress/actor stars become that much more celebrated.

Just make a good @#$% movie.
 
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Rotten Tomatoes deleted 54 k reviews of this film today. Maybe they were all people giving negative reviews, maybe they weren't. Take that and add it to the fact that they shut down the want to see ratings, and it is clear there is an effort to protect this movie. I can't figure these box office projections either. I am looking at all the time slots at the big local theaters and there are plenty of seats to be had. Way more than any other "blockbuster" than I can recall.

Disney has a lot at stake here. They want this terrible character to be the face of their franchise for the next ten years and they are doing anything they can to try and sell it to people. It's not going to happen in my opinion. I don't know how much this thing will make this weekend, but it is going to fall hard after that, like a Solo type fall. To me the only questions are if they really do have two separate cuts of Endgame, and will they use the one that has Captain Marvel in the background.
 
Rotten Tomatoes audience score has skyrocketed to 51%. Critic score dipped a little to 79%. I just don't believe anything I read anymore, seems like there is so much manipulation going on with reactions to this movie.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Rotten Tomatoes audience score has skyrocketed to 51%. Critic score dipped a little to 79%. I just don't believe anything I read anymore, seems like there is so much manipulation going on with reactions to this movie.
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I'm stunned by the critics score. I fully expected it to be in the 90's, like 95 or 96%. I figured between 60 to 70 from the audience. This just isn't an interesting character and I can't see sustained success for this film.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Rotten Tomatoes audience score has skyrocketed to 51%. Critic score dipped a little to 79%. I just don't believe anything I read anymore, seems like there is so much manipulation going on with reactions to this movie.
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Fake News
 
nwhoopfan said:
Rotten Tomatoes audience score has skyrocketed to 51%. Critic score dipped a little to 79%. I just don't believe anything I read anymore, seems like there is so much manipulation going on with reactions to this movie.
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They tried, but ultimately failed. There were like 11,000 reviews when the audience score started going up, but that number is up to 33,000+ now and the audience score has leveled out at 51%. That's eerily similar to Solo and Last Jedi.

I'd take intlzncster's advice - make a good movie - and add, maybe try not to intentionally alienate your core demographic.

The box office projections have been dropping for weeks. Last I saw, they were only projecting an opening weekend of $80 million or less. Also heard they filmed two different endings for Endgame - one with and one without Captain Marvel, considering how this movie is received. Will be interesting to see how it turns out.

On the Star Wars side of things, the fan reaction has clearly had an impact on their plans going forward. Maybe the Marvel side of the house can get out in front of this. I tend to doubt it.
 
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Deadrody said:
They tried, but ultimately failed. There were like 11,000 reviews when the audience score started going up, but that number is up to 33,000+ now and the audience score has leveled out at 51%. That's eerily similar to Solo and Last Jedi.

I'd take intlzncster's advice - make a good movie - and add, maybe try not to intentionally alienate your core demographic.

The box office projections have been dropping for weeks. Last I saw, they were only projecting an opening weekend of $80 million or less. Also heard they filmed two different endings for Endgame - one with and one without Captain Marvel, considering how this movie is received. Will be interesting to see how it turns out.

On the Star Wars side of things, the fan reaction has clearly had an impact on their plans going forward. Maybe the Marvel side of the house can get out in front of this. I tend to doubt it.
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Lol. Looking like north of 150 mil.

Eyes Turn to 'Captain Marvel' to Give the 2019 Box Office a Boost - Box Office Mojo

I have no skin in this. Never was a comic book fan. I find the Marvel movies entertaining enough but they’re nothing more than decent action movies. You and Traitor are coming off as HUGE haters though.
 
Mano said:
Lol. Looking like north of 150 mil.

Eyes Turn to 'Captain Marvel' to Give the 2019 Box Office a Boost - Box Office Mojo

I have no skin in this. Never was a comic book fan. I find the Marvel movies entertaining enough but they’re nothing more than decent action movies. You and Traitor are coming off as HUGE haters though.
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We'll see. All of these numbers are currently estimates. The only real number is the $20.7 M on Thursday.

And please don't use stupid language like "hater". Good lord. Beyond which, I could give a steaming pile if I "come off as a huge hater". My life will LiTERALLY never be the same.
 
Deadrody said:
We'll see. All of these numbers are currently estimates. The only real number is the $20.7 M on Thursday.

And please don't use stupid language like "hater". Good lord. Beyond which, I could give a steaming pile if I "come off as a huge hater". My life will LiTERALLY never be the same.
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It’s just funny considering the whole point of this thread, you sound like exactly the type that would downvote this movie sight unseen which is what RT was trying to curb. Traitor at least had a reason to dislike the movie before it opened.
 
Mano said:
It’s just funny considering the whole point of this thread, you sound like exactly the type that would downvote this movie sight unseen which is what RT was trying to curb. Traitor at least had a reason to dislike the movie before it opened.
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They are putting the future of their franchise in the hands of one of the most disliked comic book characters in recent memory. I thought it was a bad move when they first started talking about it, and I have heard nothing to change my opinion on that. I'm like most people who are familiar with the character in that I don't like her and don't find her interesting at all. As a result, I was already inclined to not be interested in the movie. Toss in all of the "it's not for you anyway" stuff that the shills throw out there and it became very easy for me to decide to not see it.
 
I saw CM last night. It was fine, not great, but not awful. I think the character has some potential to be interesting, I thought Brie Larson did a good job.

My guess is whatever preconceived notions you had about the movie going in will determine how you feel about it. The people that didn't like it going in won't like it, and those that were super excited for it will enjoy it.
 
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Reportedly $153 mil. opening weekend, that's a really solid number. If there were attempts at any point by trolls/haters to derail this movie, it didn't seem to work.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Reportedly $153 mil. opening weekend, that's a really solid number. If there were attempts at any point by trolls/haters to derail this movie, it didn't seem to work.
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It still has to show that it has legs. A movie like this is going to have people against it that don't go, and people for it that go out in force. Is it going to get repeat business? Will the average moviegoer decide that they need to go see it? Remember, Marvel wants this character to be the face of their franchise moving forward so it has to be really big, big enough to convince people that they will be fine with her taking over Endgame and fine with her running things moving forward. I will be really shocked if that happens, especially with so many reviews not really saying much for the character or her performance. To me she is like the Ryan Tannehill of super heroes and Ryan Tannehill just isn't going to carry a franchise. Only time is going to tell if this is the case of course, so it is all just speculation right now.
 
I keep hearing about 2 versions of Endgame, one w/ a more prominent role for Captain Marvel and one less prominent. They don't have a whole lot of time to decide which way they are going.
 
nwhoopfan said:
I keep hearing about 2 versions of Endgame, one w/ a more prominent role for Captain Marvel and one less prominent. They don't have a whole lot of time to decide which way they are going.
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It's an interesting dynamic and the kind of stuff that fascinates me. It's been reported that Marvel had two scripts for Civil War, one including Spiderman and one without. It gave them the chance to be ready if the Sony deal went through in time, which it did. Marvel has been on point so far, but I do have the feeling this will be a tough call for them. However, there is zero doubt in my mind that a Captain Marvel dominated Endgame will drive the fan base over the edge. They just should have got her into the MCU sooner, or waited until the next phase and it wouldn't have been such a big deal.
 
I just laugh at people who decide whether to go to a movie based on rotten tomatoes ratings if the movie hasn't been released yet. I've rarely agreed with movie "reviewers" - so I pretty much go to movies I want to go to and don't go to the ones I don't want to. If a movie has been out for 3 weeks and all the buzz is negative or positive it might sway me, but generally I just see what interests me.
 
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